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[Vander Blue Man Group]

Wasn't the best player on that team abd in the conference a transfer?

Do you really not understand the difference?

[Viper]

What seed were we last year, genius?

...2-seed, but so what? Year before, 2-seed. Did what with it? High seeding is great, but was a Sweet 16 with that 2-seed the ceiling? Most Scoopers see the here and now, and forecast not just a step back, but the approach in comparison to our competitors at the top.

[Vander Blue Man Group]

...2-seed, but so what? Year before, 2-seed. Did what with it? High seeding is great, but was a Sweet 16 with that 2-seed the ceiling? Most Scoopers see the here and now, and forecast not just a step back, but the approach in comparison to our competitors at the top.

"So what" about two 2 seeds in a row but let's overreact to one season as a 7-8 seed.

Pure idiocy.

The tourney is a crapshoot.

Most scoopers do not agree with you.

[Viper]

"So what" about two 2 seeds in a row but let's overreact to one season as a 7-8 seed.

Pure idiocy.

The tourney is a crapshoot.

Most scoopers do not agree with you.

I disagree. Most Scoopers are knowledgeable enough to see what's in front of them. And, no one is overreacting to this season. Rather, reactions are based on reasonable assessment of the current team and forecasting, assuming no incoming portal transfers.

[PointWarrior]

What seed were we last year, genius?

Awesome, we were a two seed last year.

Where are we now? 

[MU82]

I seriously wonder why some of y'all torture yourselves by following a program that you feel has accomplished nothing since Al retired, is obviously doomed next season, and really has no chance to ever compete with the big boys.

[willie warrior]

I know you are a die hard fan Tower but sometimes you need to look at things without the rose colored glasses on

No screaming shice

[willie warrior]

I said this weeks if not months ago, that we need a big and a shooter from the portal. Shaka not doing this borders on stupidity after watching this team play since January. Also, watching uconn and creighton play, it seems as if they have multiple longer dudes than us.

I am optimistic about Zaire and parnham and Owens but outside of chase and maybe Ben. Ugh. Simply trying to be realistic and not overly negative because we do have some pieces.

How dare you criticize Shaka as being stupid. Blasphemy. The Towers and TAMUS and Hards will crucify any criticism.
This year has totally and clearly proved MU is on wrong path to compete in BEast.
A 5th place finish? Middle of the Pack
3-7 against teams above us? Poor
Swept by UConn, 3 times by sleazy Rick? Unacceptable.
Losing 60% of the offense after this year? Poor
Competing in BEast means you must have 2 plus 3 point shooter and down low bangers. MU has neither
Recruits for next year are a maybe, with none highly ranked. And we all know his penchant for frosh sitting.Hope some work out, but where are the bangers for bully ball?

UConn owned us this year, St John's owned us this year with plenty of transfers. Creighton improves each year. Xavier, etc.
I love Shaka but he is not earning the big boy salary at this moment. Likely an 8 seed in dance, and bang--done.
This is not acceptable performance for a program that should be competing for Championships. Unless like some you are content with middle of the pack in BEast, as other programs and coaches in conference pass Shaka by.
He definitely has to get his ass in with recruits that can bang and shoot. If that means portal then do it. Sleazeball Rick can do it. Why can't MU?
Shaka is playing now with all his guys, so giddyup Shaka and show some current results

[wadesworld]

How dare you criticize Shaka as being stupid. Blasphemy. The Towers and TAMUS and Hards will crucify any criticism.
This year has totally and clearly proved MU is on wrong path to compete in BEast.
A 5th place finish? Middle of the Pack
3-7 against teams above us? Poor
Swept by UConn, 3 times by sleazy Rick? Unacceptable.
Losing 60% of the offense after this year? Poor
Competing in BEast means you must have 2 plus 3 point shooter and down low bangers. MU has neither
Recruits for next year are a maybe, with none highly ranked. And we all know his penchant for frosh sitting.Hope some work out, but where are the bangers for bully ball?

UConn owned us this year, St John's owned us this year with plenty of transfers. Creighton improves each year. Xavier, etc.
I love Shaka but he is not earning the big boy salary at this moment. Likely an 8 seed in dance, and bang--done.
This is not acceptable performance for a program that should be competing for Championships. Unless like some you are content with middle of the pack in BEast, as other programs and coaches in conference pass Shaka by.
He definitely has to get his ass in with recruits that can bang and shoot. If that means portal then do it. Sleazeball Rick can do it. Why can't MU?
Shaka is playing now with all his guys, so giddyup Shaka and show some current results

Creighton gets better every year? They were in the Elite 8 two years ago, a 3 seed last year, and will be in the 8/9 game this year. To nobody's surprise, your logic fails.

[The Sultan]

Awesome, we were a two seed last year.

Where are we now? 

I mean, holy sh*t.  Do some of you bozos not follow college basketball???  Having a back to back 2 seed team that drops down to a 7 or 8 for a season isn't rare at all. Even for great programs with great coaches.

Seriously, UConn was preseason top 5 and will be seeded about the same level as Marquette.  Do you think the Boneyard is saying stuff like other coahces are passing Dan Hurley by? It's just nonsense.

A lot of y'all base your Marquette "analysis" on pure emotion and vibes, and not on taking a logical and rational look at the landscape of college basketball.

[rgoode57]

When you go 3-7 against the top half of the conference and 0-5 against SJ and UConn, you have to admit that you are not competing at a high level in conference play. I agree that against these teams, MU get out muscled, out rebounded, and frequently out shot. Ben Gold is helpless against the SJ big guy, Hamilton may have some passing skills but does not show much else, and the Clark guy is a big question mark. I guess you can get lucky sometimes on a project big, but I think the success rate is pretty low. Plus, Shaka does not seem inclined to use muscular bigs who are rim protectors and rebounders. He seems to want versatile, agile bigs who can move well, switch on defense, etc. I admire Shaka for sticking to his guns, but I wonder if he is swimming upstream long-term.

[The Sultan]

UConn owned us this year, St John's owned us this year with plenty of transfers. Creighton improves each year. Xavier, etc.

Xavier? The team that was picked to finish above Marquette in the conference but is going to be lucky to even make the tournament?

Stunning analysis.

[tower912]

Ejiofor averaged 5 minutes a game as a freshman.  Left Kansas.  Developed.

I am not guaranteeing Clark or Hamilton end up like him.  But I am not discounting the possibility, either.

Ejiofor averaged 11 minutes last season at SJU.

[PointWarrior]

In the "landscape of college basketball" Marquette is a team with very modest post season accomplishments.  But that just plays into the excuse that the tourney is a crapshoot. 

[willie warrior]

Creighton gets better every year? They were in the Elite 8 two years ago, a 3 seed last year, and will be in the 8/9 game this year. To nobody's surprise, your logic fails.

To your ego surprise, Creighton is again a very good team. In BEast championship, a 2 seed in it. Your logic left you long ago. You are also one of the Mu path downward deniers. Thats fine for you. Just because I have pointed out the obvious you choose to criticize it. Fine. Just the facts Mam.

[JTJ3]

I mean, holy sh*t.  Do some of you bozos not follow college basketball???  Having a back to back 2 seed team that drops down to a 7 or 8 for a season isn't rare at all. Even for great programs with great coaches.

Seriously, UConn was preseason top 5 and will be seeded about the same level as Marquette.  Do you think the Boneyard is saying stuff like other coahces are passing Dan Hurley by? It's just nonsense.

A lot of y'all base your Marquette "analysis" on pure emotion and vibes, and not on taking a logical and rational look at the landscape of college basketball.

I think the majority of this board only watches Marquette games, its obvious the opinions about these other teams and coaches are only from the games against us.  Just conveniently miss all the times these "better" Big East teams or ranked teams around the country get blown out and have just as many flaws and question marks as us.

There is not a single program in the country that is a top 2 seed every year.  To expect that is impossible.  This is college basketball, these arent the best players in the world, so there are no guarantees each season or even game to game.  Even the best players at this level are extremely inconsistent, if they weren't they'd be in the NBA already.  The best coaches in the country would tell you they prepare as much as possible, but they have no idea what to really expect each game and each season, so for fan bases to expect elite play every year is insane.

This program is in a great spot the way Shaka has built it and the next few years are going to be really fun.

[The Sultan]

To your ego surprise, Creighton is again a very good team. In BEast championship, a 2 seed in it. Your logic left you long ago. You are also one of the Mu path downward deniers. Thats fine for you. Just because I have pointed out the obvious you choose to criticize it. Fine. Just the facts Mam.

They're trending down though. They will be seeded right around Marquette this year. Again logic and intellect escape you. Your arguments are just based on feelings.

[The Sultan]

In the "landscape of college basketball" Marquette is a team with very modest post season accomplishments.  But that just plays into the excuse that the tourney is a crapshoot. 

I guess if you just keep making different arguments, you'll eventually be right.

[Vander Blue Man Group]

Awesome, we were a two seed last year.

Where are we now? 

Probably a 7 or 8.  What's your point?  Do you expect a 2-seed every year?  Are you delusional?

[willie warrior]

I disagree. Most Scoopers are knowledgeable enough to see what's in front of them. And, no one is overreacting to this season. Rather, reactions are based on reasonable assessment of the current team and forecasting, assuming no incoming portal transfers.

Spot on. Except there are a bunch of Scoopers that dont see what is front of them, unless Shaka chanb\ges things up. Next year will be rougher than this year. But we all can cross our fingers.

[willie warrior]

When you go 3-7 against the top half of the conference and 0-5 against SJ and UConn, you have to admit that you are not competing at a high level in conference play. I agree that against these teams, MU get out muscled, out rebounded, and frequently out shot. Ben Gold is helpless against the SJ big guy, Hamilton may have some passing skills but does not show much else, and the Clark guy is a big question mark. I guess you can get lucky sometimes on a project big, but I think the success rate is pretty low. Plus, Shaka does not seem inclined to use muscular bigs who are rim protectors and rebounders. He seems to want versatile, agile bigs who can move well, switch on defense, etc. I admire Shaka for sticking to his guns, but I wonder if he is swimming upstream long-term.

Like a salmon spawning.

[willie warrior]

In the "landscape of college basketball" Marquette is a team with very modest post season accomplishments.  But that just plays into the excuse that the tourney is a crapshoot. 

Whoa there Go back 50 years when MU was a runner up in 74 and won it all in 77.

[The Sultan]

Whoa there Go back 50 years when MU was a runner up in 74 and won it all in 77.

You were the guy who said the Chones Sweet 16 team was a "stud team," yet are acting like a little flower because last year's team only reach the Sweet 16.

Your illogic knows no bounds.

[muwarrior69]

Some here are certainly more in the know than I am, but could it be that Shaka does not want to go to the portal because the NIL money is not there and knows he'll be out bid when it comes to money. This is the "new" landscape of college basketball.

[#UnleashSean]

Some here are certainly more in the know than I am, but could it be that Shaka does not want to go to the portal because the NIL money is not there and knows he'll be out bid when it comes to money. This is the "new" landscape of college basketball.

This is quite possible. The articles and notions and everything else has a positive spin to it. Everyone gets paid the same, no agents etc. We already know were going to miss out on big names because of that. Whatever, what matters is are we able to compete at all?