All Conference Awards 2024-25

[GoldenEagles03]

Kam Jones Unanimous 1st Team
David Joplin 3rd Team All Big East
Royce Parham All Freshman Team

[GoldenEagles03]

https://x.com/BIGEASTMBB/status/1898780828697530719?t=cu1W2YW3CMBHybbgkFZn3g&s=19

https://x.com/BIGEASTMBB/status/1898781074697969995?t=mlqgmYNR7AAVRGuOJgdwxA&s=19

https://x.com/BIGEASTMBB/status/1898783349683990755?t=QK_UIejLxvVaDr8x8iir2A&s=19

[Vander Blue Man Group]

Disappointed they don't have an All-Defense team so Stevie could get some recognition.  I assume Kalkbrenner will win DPOY again. 

[MarquetteMike1977]

Said when they were in High School Parnham would contribute more than Owens Freshman year.  But have to admit I doubted that some too after watching early scrimmages.

[Billy Hoyle]

Kalk gets DPOY
Zuby most improved
Reed gets 6th Man
Hunter of X gets sportsmanship award

Player of the Year, Coach of the Year, Freshman of the Year and Scholar-Athlete get announced Wednesday. I have to think Stevie gets the scholar-athlete award.

Predictions for the others:
POY - Luis, Jr.
COY - Slick Rick
FOY - McNeeley

[wadesworld]

Kalk gets DPOY

LOL.

[Billy Hoyle]

LOL.

you knew they were going to give it to him.

[wadesworld]

you knew they were going to give it to him.

He could've played 0 possessions all year and he would've got it.  4 DPOYs along with Ewing is disrespectful to Patrick Ewing.

He literally guards nobody.  His "matchup" is the guy who can't shoot on the other team and he stands at the rim being 7'1" and 26 years old.

[Billy Hoyle]

He could've played 0 possessions all year and he would've got it.  4 DPOYs along with Ewing is disrespectful to Patrick Ewing.

He literally guards nobody.  His "matchup" is the guy who can't shoot on the other team and he stands at the rim being 7'1" and 26 years old.

He's 23, but I agree with the rest.

[MuMark]

He could've played 0 possessions all year and he would've got it.  4 DPOYs along with Ewing is disrespectful to Patrick Ewing.

He literally guards nobody.  His "matchup" is the guy who can't shoot on the other team and he stands at the rim being 7'1" and 26 years old.

Coaches know what he gives his team on that end.......Shaka and Hurley have both talked about it at length.

He certainly isn't Ewing......not close.....but if the coaches vote a guy POY 4 times in a row he's probably pretty good and a worthy winner.

Doesn't mean a case couldn't be made for others but it's fine that he won.

[Viper]

Coaches know what he gives his team on that end.......Shaka and Hurley have both talked about it at length.

He certainly isn't Ewing......not close.....but if the coaches vote a guy POY 4 times in a row he's probably pretty good and a worthy winner.

Doesn't mean a case couldn't be made for others but it's fine that he won.

CU finishing alone in 2nd in conference probably helped too, I'd think

[BrewCity83]

CU finishing alone in 2nd in conference probably helped too, I'd think

Well, it did help them that they played with a goalie.

[Shaka Shart]

Once again, JUST TALL

[wadesworld]

Once again, JUST TALL

The 4 time Big East Defensive Player of the Year takes on the challenge of "guarding" the opposing team's worst player every night.  Incredible stuff.

[Viper]

Well, it did help them that they played with a goalie.

yeah, we needed a goalie

[FairWeatherEagle]

Pitino deserves COY.
I think McDermott is consistently the best over the years....maybe once under 500 for the 10 or so years they've been here ...although with time, Shaka....

Agree all defensive team would be great. Why not? It's not too busy and gives credit to a set of players for something that matters.

Parham nice. I think he's got great upside. Grow dude. Not just size but in knowledge, feel, leadership. Make it happen. NBA in your future.

[The Sultan]

Pitino deserves COY.
I think McDermott is consistently the best over the years....maybe once under 500 for the 10 or so years they've been here ...although with time, Shaka....

McDermott's been good, not great when his kid isn't on the roster.

[MU82]

Coaches know what he gives his team on that end.......Shaka and Hurley have both talked about it at length.

He certainly isn't Ewing......not close.....but if the coaches vote a guy POY 4 times in a row he's probably pretty good and a worthy winner.

Doesn't mean a case couldn't be made for others but it's fine that he won.

He affects games. He changed the way Marquette could play offense in the game at Omaha.

I'm sick of him, too. And I get what others are saying: What he does seems "easier" than what "real" man-to-man defenders do.

But the big doofus has a big impact on games. That's what Big East coaches see.

[Billy Hoyle]

McDermott's been good, not great when his kid isn't on the roster.

One weak foul call away from the Final Four without his kid on the team, two sweet sweet sixteens and the aforementioned elite eight without Dougie. Hes finished third or better in the BE 8 of 11 seasons. Maybe not great but very good.

[tower912]

Bad coaches aren't put on wish lists.

[The Sultan]

Bad coaches aren't put on wish lists.

Good thing no one said he was bad.

[The Sultan]

One weak foul call away from the Final Four without his kid on the team, two sweet sweet sixteens and the aforementioned elite eight without Dougie. Hes finished third or better in the BE 8 of 11 seasons. Maybe not great but very good.

I guess if you want to debate "good" versus "very good" have at it. 

[brewcity77]

McDermott's been good, not great when his kid isn't on the roster.

It's relative, but in terms of program expectations they've been great. Since 2017, went to 6 of 7 tournaments and would've been a 2 or 3 seed in 2020. All single-digit seeds, two Sweet 16s and an Elite Eight. They've equaled or bettered their best pre-McDermott seed (6 in 2003) four times since Doug left. He has 8 NCAA wins since Doug left, the program had 12 total before 2017 (and 3 were Greg, he owns more than half Creighton's all-time NCAA wins). He's 2 wins from tying Dana Altman as the all-time winningest coach in program history and has done that in 2 fewer seasons.

[wadesworld]

He's elite at keeping kids on the plantation.

[MU82]

It's relative, but in terms of program expectations they've been great. Since 2017, went to 6 of 7 tournaments and would've been a 2 or 3 seed in 2020. All single-digit seeds, two Sweet 16s and an Elite Eight. They've equaled or bettered their best pre-McDermott seed (6 in 2003) four times since Doug left. He has 8 NCAA wins since Doug left, the program had 12 total before 2017 (and 3 were Greg, he owns more than half Creighton's all-time NCAA wins). He's 2 wins from tying Dana Altman as the all-time winningest coach in program history and has done that in 2 fewer seasons.

Yep. Even most Scoopers would be pretty pleased with those results.

[CTWarrior]

He could've played 0 possessions all year and he would've got it.  4 DPOYs along with Ewing is disrespectful to Patrick Ewing.

He literally guards nobody.  His "matchup" is the guy who can't shoot on the other team and he stands at the rim being 7'1" and 26 years old.

I love Stevie's defense as much as the next guy, but it is sour grapes to say that Kalkbrenner doesn't have an enormous impact on the defensive end.  I know we did not challenge him in the lane and adjusted whatever we did shoot while he was on the floor and attacked the rim whenever he sat.

[The Sultan]

It's relative, but in terms of program expectations they've been great. Since 2017, went to 6 of 7 tournaments and would've been a 2 or 3 seed in 2020. All single-digit seeds, two Sweet 16s and an Elite Eight. They've equaled or bettered their best pre-McDermott seed (6 in 2003) four times since Doug left. He has 8 NCAA wins since Doug left, the program had 12 total before 2017 (and 3 were Greg, he owns more than half Creighton's all-time NCAA wins). He's 2 wins from tying Dana Altman as the all-time winningest coach in program history and has done that in 2 fewer seasons.

So he's great in a Creighton kind of way. Good for them.

[Newsdreams]

Yep. Even most Scoopers would be pretty pleased with those results.

Wut? Most Scoopers are never satisfied. MU could win a Natty this year and most would still be bishing about next year's roster.

[GoldenEagles03]

Wut? Most Scoopers are never satisfied. MU could win a Natty this year and most would still be bishing about next year's roster.

I'd love for you to be proven right on this!

[Scoop Snoop]

Wut? Most Scoopers are never satisfied. MU could win a Natty this year and most would still be bishing about next year's roster.

Yeah. So? You got a problem with that?

[wadesworld]

I love Stevie's defense as much as the next guy, but it is sour grapes to say that Kalkbrenner doesn't have an enormous impact on the defensive end.  I know we did not challenge him in the lane and adjusted whatever we did shoot while he was on the floor and attacked the rim whenever he sat.

Sorry, I just cannot get on board with giving the guy whose matchup is to guard the WORST opposing player the Big East Defensive Player of the Year award...for the fourth time!

[GoldenEagles03]

I'm so sick of Andy Katz being involved in college basketball.

Get this goof out of here. Kam at 3rd team.

https://x.com/MarchMadnessMBB/status/1899478092470460480?t=nisA-rSGlG7oKjFFO2barg&s=19

[drewm88]

I'm so sick of Andy Katz being involved in college basketball.

Get this goof out of here. Kam at 3rd team.

https://x.com/MarchMadnessMBB/status/1899478092470460480?t=nisA-rSGlG7oKjFFO2barg&s=19

Katz has been a clown for several years, but it's getting worse.

[MU82]

The beautiful thing is that there's no such thing as Katz's All-Americans, just as there's no such thing as Field of 68 All-Americans.

Scoop's All-Americans are just as legit.

[Shaka Shart]

Bad coaches aren't put on wish lists.

Wojo was on our wish list at one point

[tower912]

Wojo was on our wish list at one point

Beat out Howland and Cuonzo Martin.  MU made the right choice.

[Shaka Shart]

Beat out Howland and Cuonzo Martin.  MU made the right choice.

I hear Ben starting singing the Black Keys in the interview with the lyrics "Baby I'm Howland for you"

[Zog from Margo]

Stevie Mitchell is the BEST scholar athlete of the year. Two years in a row with Oso last year. That's really, really impressive! https://x.com/MarquetteMBB/status/1899853119887995335?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet

[Bahama]

Stevie Mitchell is the BEST scholar athlete of the year. Two years in a row with Oso last year. That's really, really impressive! https://x.com/MarquetteMBB/status/1899853119887995335?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet

My brother is finishing up his senior year at Marquette. He had a class with Stevie Mitchell.

It was exam day, the class was provided their exams and got to work. Roughly 45 minutes into the exam, Stevie hadn't even started it. He didn't know what he was looking at, held his pencil in hand, staring blankly at the paper.
The professor announced that everyone had "30 minutes remaining to complete the exam".

Stevie - who hadn't yet answered the first question, proceeded to lock-in. Verbally exclaiming to the class "Oh man, I was LOST IN THE FIGHT!" before proceeding to pencil in answers, seemingly at random.

A true Scholar, the best athlete scholar among all the prestigious academic schools in the conference.

(True story by the way)

[GoldenEagles03]

Not All Conference, but another Stevie recognition.

https://x.com/NaismithTrophy/status/1899853131954938183?t=cICe76e83qG32n4e-xiH2A&s=19

[Zog from Margo]

Beat out Howland and Cuonzo Martin.  MU made the right choice.

If that was the universe, maybe. 15 seasons as an assistant in one spot with no HC experience should have been enough to show that Wojo wasn't a good choice. But he might have been the best of a bad lot. Hard to know how coaches would fair at different schools.

[StillAWarrior]

He affects games. He changed the way Marquette could play offense in the game at Omaha.

I'm sick of him, too. And I get what others are saying: What he does seems "easier" than what "real" man-to-man defenders do.

But the big doofus has a big impact on games. That's what Big East coaches see.

Like pretty much everyone on this board, I'm a big Stevie Mitchell fan. I really would have loved to see him win this award. But I made a point of paying attention to Kalk in our games against them this year and he absolutely does affect the game and what teams do. And it would seem that is what earns DPOY votes -- needing to gameplan around a defensive player.

Stevie is an absolutely stellar defensive player - one of the best I've seen. I'm sure BE coaches frequently tell their best ball handler, "Man, you're going to have your hands full tonight...Mitchell is really good." But I'm not sure they gameplan around him, and that's why Kalk wins. I wish Stevie would win, but I understand why he doesn't. I also think it would have been nice if the BE Coaches would have given him All-BE in recognition of all that he does. I personally would have put Stevie ahead of Joplin for that honor (although I'm happy to see Jop get that recognition).

[Uncle Rico]

If that was the universe, maybe. 15 seasons as an assistant in one spot with no HC experience should have been enough to show that Wojo wasn't a good choice. But he might have been the best of a bad lot. Hard to know how coaches would fair at different schools.

Cuonzo was running from Tennessee at the time.  He would have bolted Marquette like he did Cal.

No idea how Howland would have done here but I think better than at Mississippi State

[MuMark]

If that was the universe, maybe. 15 seasons as an assistant in one spot with no HC experience should have been enough to show that Wojo wasn't a good choice. But he might have been the best of a bad lot. Hard to know how coaches would fair at different schools.

Roy Williams was an assistant for 10 years at one spot with no head coaching experience before getting the job at Kansas.

Tommy Lloyd was an assistant at Gonzaga for 20 years.....no head coaching experience before being hired by Arizona.

[Shaka Shart]

Roy Williams was an assistant for 10 years at one spot with no head coaching experience before getting the job at Kansas.

Tommy Lloyd was an assistant at Gonzaga for 20 years.....no head coaching experience before being hired by Arizona.

More importantly, Gard got it done with no HC experience

[Zog from Margo]

Roy Williams was an assistant for 10 years at one spot with no head coaching experience before getting the job at Kansas.

Tommy Lloyd was an assistant at Gonzaga for 20 years.....no head coaching experience before being hired by Arizona.

And both came from and went to programs where you can walk in and get the players you want. What did a 15-year assistant at Duke know about building a program at a school where that was not, and likely never will be, the case? It was not a lot.

[MuMark]

And both came from and went to programs where you can walk in and get the players you want. What did a 15-year assistant at Duke know about building a program at a school where that was not, and likely never will be, the case? It was not a lot.

Billy Gillespie didn't just get players at Kentucky.......because it was Kentucky.....you still have to get them.

Roy and Lloyd would have succeeded at other schools.......they just waited until the right opportunity came open. IMO

I think the point is there is no true fail safe formula for hiring a head coach.......guys with no HC experience have succeeded and failed.......good mid major coaches who were highly sought after have succeeded and failed.........high major coaches making lateral moves or taking a more prestigious job have succeeded and failed.

Wojo got plenty of players here.......ultimately his undoing was he couldn't coach defense.......which considering his background is kind of ironic.

[Zog from Margo]

Billy Gillespie didn't just get players at Kentucky.......because it was Kentucky.....you still have to get them.

Roy and Lloyd would have succeeded at other schools.......they just waited until the right opportunity came open. IMO

I think the point is there is no true fail safe formula for hiring a head coach.......guys with no HC experience have succeeded and failed.......good mid major coaches who were highly sought after have succeeded and failed.........high major coaches making lateral moves or taking a more prestigious job have succeeded and failed.

Wojo got plenty of players here.......ultimately his undoing was he couldn't coach defense.......which considering his background is kind of ironic.

We'll have to agree to disagree. I am not sure how successful Lloyd or Williams would have been at the University of Detroit. I also think the inability to coach D was only one of Wojo's weaknesses. I do agree, however, that particular weakness was not one I expected when they hired him. In any event, I won't divert this string further than I have.

Stevie and Oso really have been great student athlete representing MU. Those are very impressive accomplishments given the time commitment D-1 basketball requires.

[Billy Hoyle]

And both came from and went to programs where you can walk in and get the players you want. What did a 15-year assistant at Duke know about building a program at a school where that was not, and likely never will be, the case? It was not a lot.

Gonzaga isn't a "walk in and get the players you want" program. They still have to sell kids on going to a small school in a crappy city that plays in a mid-major conference.

Let's see, Wojo successfully recruited to MU:

Ellenson (NBA first rounder)
The Hausers (Sam still in the NBA)
Markus (NBA)
Jamal Cain (NBA)
Oso (NBA)
Kam (soon-to-be a first-round pick)
Stevie (incredible representative of MU)
Aidoo (all SEC, likely to be headed to the NBA)
Theo John (grad transfer to Duke)
Justin Lewis (NBA)
Dawson Garcia (possibly NBA, transfer to UNC)

Wojo brought in really good talent to MU, but as some mentioned, his issue was the actual coaching part. He needed better assistants for sure.

[CountryRoads]

Wojo brought in really good talent to MU, but as some mentioned, his issue was the actual coaching part. He needed better assistants for sure.

Off topic but anyone see Wojo's rant on instagram today? Apparently during one of his GLeague telecasts they threw up a graphic of the "4 Most Annoying Duke Players" and it included him lol. Didn't sound like he took it very well.

[wadesworld]

Gonzaga isn't a "walk in and get the players you want" program. They still have to sell kids on going to a small school in a crappy city that plays in a mid-major conference.

Let's see, Wojo successfully recruited to MU:

Ellenson (NBA first rounder)
The Hausers (Sam still in the NBA)
Markus (NBA)
Jamal Cain (NBA)
Oso (NBA)
Kam (soon-to-be a first-round pick)
Stevie (incredible representative of MU)
Aidoo (all SEC, likely to be headed to the NBA)
Theo John (grad transfer to Duke)
Justin Lewis (NBA)
Dawson Garcia (possibly NBA, transfer to UNC)

Wojo brought in really good talent to MU, but as some mentioned, his issue was the actual coaching part. He needed better assistants for sure.

Some of these are quite the reach.

[Zog from Margo]

Gonzaga isn't a "walk in and get the players you want" program. They still have to sell kids on going to a small school in a crappy city that plays in a mid-major conference.

Let's see, Wojo successfully recruited to MU:

Ellenson (NBA first rounder)
The Hausers (Sam still in the NBA)
Markus (NBA)
Jamal Cain (NBA)
Oso (NBA)
Kam (soon-to-be a first-round pick)
Stevie (incredible representative of MU)
Aidoo (all SEC, likely to be headed to the NBA)
Theo John (grad transfer to Duke)
Justin Lewis (NBA)
Dawson Garcia (possibly NBA, transfer to UNC)

Wojo brought in really good talent to MU, but as some mentioned, his issue was the actual coaching part. He needed better assistants for sure.

I would argue that Wojo's rosters didn't reflect any vision for how he wanted MU to play and, as a result, there was no system continuity or benefit of accumulated experience within a system. To me, that's not good recruiting or coaching. His record bore that out.

[MuMark]

I would argue that Wojo's rosters didn't reflect any vision for how he wanted MU to play and, as a result, there was no system continuity or benefit of accumulated experience within a system. To me, that's not good recruiting or coaching. His record bore that out.

I would agree with this.....he recruited some really good players and tried to adjust his system around those players( some posters believe this is the way to go) ..........unless you are recruiting elite talent it's best to recruit good players who fit how you coach......

As Shaka says " you become us.....we don't become you"

[Billy Hoyle]

Some of these are quite the reach.

Such as?

[Shaka Shart]

Such as?

Cain had quite the wingspan for his size

[wadesworld]

Such as?

I guess 10 day contract guys made the NBA, but they aren't really NBA players.

Cain became an NBA level talent/player well after he left MU.

Aidoo never stepped foot on campus (other than visits as a recruit) and was going wherever Gainey was.

If he had coached Oso and Kam those two probably aren't NBA players.

Theo going to Duke?  Cool.  He hardly played there.

Stevie being an outstanding kid?  Woo hoo!

[MU82]

I was hoping that a thread dedicated to congratulating our award winners would lead to Scoop's 65,388th discussion about Wojo. So thank goodness!

[The Sultan]

And both came from and went to programs where you can walk in and get the players you want. What did a 15-year assistant at Duke know about building a program at a school where that was not, and likely never will be, the case? It was not a lot.

If you keep shifting the goalposts, eventually you will be right I guess.

[Zog from Margo]

If you keep shifting the goalposts, eventually you will be right I guess.

Shifting goalposts?

If you keep shifting the goalposts, eventually you will be right I guess.

Feel free to think what it takes to be successful at MU is the same as what it takes to be successful at Duke.

If you keep shifting the goalposts, eventually you will be right I guess.

Thanks for admitting I'm right.

[DoctorV]

Off topic but anyone see Wojo's rant on instagram today? Apparently during one of his GLeague telecasts they threw up a graphic of the "4 Most Annoying Duke Players" and it included him lol. Didn't sound like he took it very well.

Classic!

[Newsdreams]

I was hoping that a thread dedicated to congratulating our award winners would lead to Scoop's 65,388th discussion about Wojo. So thank goodness!

You hoping for miracles

[StillAWarrior]

I was hoping that a thread dedicated to congratulating our award winners would lead to Scoop's 65,388th discussion about Wojo. So thank goodness!

I think you're undercounting. You're probably using "Scoop math" and not counting posts/discussions in the Superbar.