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Billy Hoyle

#1725
Quote from: Pakuni on Today at 12:10:09 PMYou're saying not taking transfers leads to disappointing tournament results?

Apparently so as the first year he took a transfer (grad transfer from SIU) they made the championship game. They probably blow out UConn in the title game if Painter hadn't destroyed team chemistry by bringing in Lance Jones.
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Elonsmusk

Quote from: The Sultan on Today at 10:33:01 AMOh give me a break. You've spewed as much vitriol about players and coaches as anyone on here. And now you're going to act all high and mighty? Please...

I railed on Wojo a ton, first and foremost - as well as Buzz in his last year for putting Derrick Wilson in a position he had no business being in -  playing 3)+ minutes per game.  95% of my "vitriol" was toward the coaches - and in rebuttals to complete idiots here who suggested Derrick Wilson has worthy of 30+ minutes per game..and that Wojo had no other option(s) - like Carlino or Duane Wilson weren't capable of replacing Derrick Wilson. 

So, theres been exactly one player in roughly 15ish years on Scoop that I've been highly critical of - and that was largely directed toward the coaches, and in response to guys like BrewCity who thought we'd be better with Derrick Wilson at PG than Junior Cadougan.

But, nice try.

Uncle Rico

Quote from: BCHoopster on Today at 03:45:10 PMYou can believe in Shaka's philosophy which is fine if you bring in some top recruits.  But some of his recruits have not panned out.  I thought Owens was going to be a star here, he has totally regressed.  Parham has not moved the meter either.  Now add a pitiful junior class and you have this team.  Next year unless the frosh step in right now and play, the team looks even weaker.  So unless you add a portal player this program and Shaka are going down. Adding one player should not be that hard, and there's at least 5 players that can go. Here is the problem why players do not leave MU, there MLI money here is very good.

Money Laundering Investments?
The Google old days

The Sultan

Quote from: Elonsmusk on Today at 03:51:05 PMI railed on Wojo a ton, first and foremost - as well as Buzz in his last year for putting Derrick Wilson in a position he had no business being in -  playing 3)+ minutes per game.  95% of my "vitriol" was toward the coaches - and in rebuttals to complete idiots here who suggested Derrick Wilson has worthy of 30+ minutes per game..and that Wojo had no other option(s) - like Carlino or Duane Wilson weren't capable of replacing Derrick Wilson. 

So, theres been exactly one player in roughly 15ish years on Scoop that I've been highly critical of - and that was largely directed toward the coaches, and in response to guys like BrewCity who thought we'd be better with Derrick Wilson at PG than Junior Cadougan.

But, nice try.


Thanks for admitting I was right. Maybe you should step down from your pulpit.
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MU82

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Quote from: BCHoopster on Today at 02:54:38 PMMU needs rentals, I do not care if they will be a junior or senior, but time to use the portal next year.  You can say what ever you want about Boyd, but he is nice one year rental, just like Tonje last year.

Greg Gard has proven to be a failed coach. Why would you want to replicate his methods?

FWIW, while I like Shaka's recruit/develop/retain philosophy, I also think he should strongly consider bringing in select transfers. The suggestion that he should have added a guy like Boyd instead of a four-year starter like James was silly.
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CountryRoads

#1730
Quote from: MU82 on Today at 05:45:45 PMGreg Gard has proven to be a failed coach. Why would you want to replicate his methods?

FWIW, while I like Shaka's recruit/develop/retain philosophy, I also think he should strongly consider bringing in select transfers. The suggestion that he should have added a guy like Boyd instead of a four-year starter like James was silly.

Exactly. Gard portaled over a prized recruit and potential stud in Freitag two years in a row and never gave him a chance. Hopefully, this strategy catches up to them on the recruiting trail. I don't want to see us doing the same thing.

I think Shaka does it mostly right and has honest discussions with guys who have been in the program a few years that just aren't cut out for high major ball (Ellis, Itejere, Amadou, etc). Though, we've replaced them with more young guys when I think we should be looking to the portal in these types of cases. For example, I know we're excited for Sheek and Phillips (who both skipped their senior year of high school), but maybe it'd be better if we had nabbed a senior in the portal instead and just had one of them join the team next year. A move like that could make us more competitive this year while still preserving the way Shaka wants to run this program.

K1 Lover

Random question, but did Shaka ever comment on Al Amadou transferring out? I thought something might be said about it around the start of the season but until now, I still haven't heard anyone from the program comment on it.

Nukem2

Quote from: CountryRoads on Today at 06:21:09 PMExactly. Gard portaled over a prized recruit and potential stud in Freitag two years in a row and never gave him a chance. Hopefully, this strategy catches up to them on the recruiting trail. I don't want to see us doing the same thing.

I think Shaka does it mostly right and has honest discussions with guys who have been in the program a few years that just aren't cut out for high major ball (Ellis, Itejere, Amadou, etc). Though, we've replaced them with more young guys when I think we should be looking to the portal in these types of cases. For example, I know we're excited for Sheek and Phillips (who both skipped their senior year of high school), but maybe it'd be better if we had nabbed a senior in the portal instead and just had one of them join the team next year. A move like that could make us more competitive this year while still preserving the way Shaka wants to run this program.
Freitag was only there a year. And, he is averaging 21 a game no at Buffalo this in his second season of college,  including Bucky. No redshirts.

BCHoopster

Let's forget about the Badgers, do you like what UConn does?

Viper

Quote from: GoldenEagles03 on Today at 10:27:31 AMMy point is that it most likely wasn't a random person betting on a Marquette player. It was likely a garbage fan of the program that is upset we aren't good.
how would you come across that shiit? I guess it's why I don't do social media, unless you call this social media. btw, if there's a law enforcement techie that can ID that piece of trash, and if there's no legal consequences, make him read his posts to his mom.
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Viper

Quote from: wadesworld on Today at 03:04:29 PMWe can shoot for not winning Tournament games without adding transfers. Greg Gard has made two Sweet Sixteens, one the year Bo Ryan coached the first half of the season and the other the next season, with all of Bo Ryan's players. He has 3 Tournament wins in the 8 seasons since. Shaka doesn't need to take a page from Greg Gard's book at all.
what you state is correct. Head-to-head, however? Ugh. (BUT, I actually think we might get one in Madison in two weeks. Fear Purdue. Red? No)
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CountryRoads

Quote from: GoldenEagles03 on Today at 10:27:31 AMMy point is that it most likely wasn't a random person betting on a Marquette player. It was likely a garbage fan of the program that is upset we aren't good.

NCAA study released last week finds over 1/3 of men's basketball players harassed by bettors:

https://www.ncaa.org/news/2025/11/18/media-center-ncaa-study-finds-over-one-third-of-di-mens-basketball-student-athletes-harassed-by-bettors.aspx

Growing trend for these to be fellow students or "fans" and not random people. It's a massive problem.

An article from the other day with quotes from Kelsey and Pope and some of their players on the issue (there are dozens more):

https://www.courier-journal.com/story/sports/college/2025/11/21/college-basketball-prop-bets-harassment-louisville-pat-kelsey-jeff-brohm-arrest-threats-ncaa/87355124007/#

But yeah, in general, the normal fans could also be nicer. Marquette ones included.

Shooter McGavin

Quote from: Vander Blue Man Group on Today at 10:26:35 AMWas just about to post the same thing. Omitting those guys when talking about development is crazy.

And that's why a lot of people were cautiously optimistic about this season.

I understand this argument but weren't all these players showing more, much earlier in their Marquette careers than some on the current roster.

It's better to have a higher level of baseline of talent to work with. 

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