Measles

[MU82]

It's mostly political now.

[Skatastrophy]

It's mostly political now.

Disagree, my anti-vaxx mom friends are granola. 

The common thread between right wing and left wing anti-vaxxers is that they think their Google-fu is stronger than all reputable MD's coming to a consensus. Wild if you think about it. 

[MU82]

I'll shift down one gear to "mostly political." But I admit I don't have data. Doesn't sound like others do, either. We all have lots of anecdotes.

[JWags85]

I'll shift down one gear to "mostly political." But I admit I don't have data. Doesn't sound like others do, either. We all have lots of anecdotes.

If you're purely speaking to "new" anti-vaxxers with no similarities to historical?  Then maybe.

Disagree, my anti-vaxx mom friends are granola.

The common thread between right wing and left wing anti-vaxxers is that they think their Google-fu is stronger than all reputable MD's coming to a consensus. Wild if you think about it.

This, 100%.  Not to mention, before his political chameleon act, the people championing/following/aligning with RKF Jr's anti-vaxx stuff were not politically motivated right wingers.

And they both often have a unique predilection towards taking a reasonable data point/fact/anecdote about pediatric health and how it may relate to vaccines and extrapolating it into a full radical stance on vaccinations. 

AKA "the medical industry can over-diagnose, and thus over-prescribe medications, kids early in their development".  To be honest, on its face, I don't necessarily disagree.  Ive known numerous people who had kids get diagnosed with things and medicated far too quickly.  But to then take that as a justification for writing off vaccines in the same vein is just spastic nonsense.

To continue my anecdote from yesterday, we are Florida residents, had a follow up pediatric visit for my 3 year old today.  His PCP, and majority of specialists, are all in the All Children's/Johns Hopkins group here, absolutely fantastic care and doctors across the board.
 
My wife asked his doctor about all the recent developments with vaccines and mandates (or lack thereof).  Doctor said that contrary to a lot of the reporting/rumors, it is more around the opt-outs and honestly serves more to limit some of the fighting and litigation around parents not wanting to vaccinate their kids but also send them to school.  She said they have a defined and comprehensive protocol tapping into the guidance/recommendations of a variety of governing bodies in pediatric medicine and it while its technically fluid, as all medicine is, its not very reactionary.  They are slightly more limited in what is "required" but they still can recommend or mandate whatever they like in their practice.

[Hards Alumni]

We get what we deserve.

https://x.com/nytimes/status/2014764905270763875?s=20

It's fine, my antivax employee is getting her monthly Ozempic shot without concern.

We live in a very normal society.

[cheebs09]

It's fine, my antivax employee is getting her monthly Ozempic shot without concern.

We live in a very normal society.

My favorite is the anti-vaxxers that smoke.

[tower912]

Makes me root for the cigarette.

[Hards Alumni]

My favorite is the anti-vaxxers that smoke.

Ah, so you know this person.

[MU82]

From The AP:

Dr. Mehmet Oz, the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services administrator, on Sunday urged people to get inoculated against the measles at a time of outbreaks across several states and as the United States is at risk of losing its measles elimination status. Read more.

Why this matters:

An outbreak in South Carolina in the hundreds has surpassed the recorded case count in Texas' 2025 outbreak, and there is also one on the Utah-Arizona border. Multiple other states have had confirmed cases this year.

"Take the vaccine, please," said Oz, whose boss, Robert F. Kennedy Jr., has raised suspicion about the safety and importance of vaccines. "Not all illnesses are equally dangerous and not all people are equally susceptible to those illnesses," Oz told CNN's "State of the Union." "But measles is one you should get your vaccine."

[tower912]

Sellout.  'ThEY' GOt tO hIM.

[tower912]

The latest super spreader in this measles epidemic is.....


I swear the jokes just write themselves.  Another opportunity to exercise self control.

[Uncle Rico]

Good job, MAHA

https://bsky.app/profile/historyvaccines.bsky.social/post/3mi5kycvn7b26

[Warriors4ever]

Apparently the outbreak erupted in the Mennonite community in Mexico, via the Texas outbreak. I did not know there was a large community in Mexico.,

[MU82]

Babies too young to be vaccinated are among the most vulnerable in a measles outbreak.

The disease can wreak havoc on their fragile bodies, making them so sick they stop eating and drinking. They can develop pneumonia or brain swelling, and sometimes die.

Babies depend entirely on herd immunity — at least 95% of a community must be vaccinated to prevent measles outbreaks. But dropping vaccination rates have eroded protection and across the nation.

"Babies become sitting ducks," said Dr. Deborah Greenhouse, a pediatrician. "The burden is on all of us to protect all of us."

(Above from AP)

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Many of the same people who claim to value life - especially when it's in the womb - are against vaccines that can keep babies alive and healthy. They're also against child-care initiatives, adequately funding Medicaid and food programs, etc.