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Pakuni

#4125
Quote from: JWags85 on Today at 09:56:39 AMGoes from a crapshow with the Jets to a slightly better crapshow in Nashville.

But that's a bullet dodged for Titans fans if the Nagy stuff had been true.  Imagine your team's ownership/front office falling out with and chasing Vrabel out of town to now see him very likely headed to a SB...while you hire a disaster to replace him, and then hire someone who flopped in their first HC gig and then went back to their old job and did nothing of note to give more confidence that they were improved, and arguably performed worse.

I do think Saleh is a fantastic defensive coach, and very likely a better choice than Nagy, but I'm not sure what the Titans are seeing to give him this chance so soon after his New York meltdown.
Maybe the Jets are just so toxic he never stood a chance, but he did some objectively bad things there ... bringing in Nate Hackett to appease Rodgers, failure to develop (or bring in anyone who could develop) Zach Wilson, waffling on QB starters, lack of team discipline, etc.
Maybe he'll figure it out this time around, or maybe like Vic Fangio and Wade Phillips, he was born to be a DC. Either way, kind of a risky hire for a team at an inflection point and very dependent on the growth of a young QB.

MU82

Seriously, what is the attraction of Nagy? Reid, not he, is the mastermind of the KC offense, and he flamed out spectacularly in Chicago. I don't get it.
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Quote from: MU82 on Today at 11:22:47 AMSeriously, what is the attraction of Nagy? Reid, not he, is the mastermind of the KC offense, and he flamed out spectacularly in Chicago. I don't get it.

and by extension, Bieniemy. Do these guys exist outside the Reid Cinematic Universe?

MU_B

Quote from: Pakuni on Today at 10:32:41 AMMaybe he'll figure it out this time around, or maybe like Vic Fangio and Wade Phillips, he was born to be a DC. Either way, kind of a risky hire for a team at an inflection point and very dependent on the growth of a young QB.


Also, if the young QB grows and has a great year, your OC is probably getting a HC job in the next cycle. Weird pairing.
Willfully misinformed.

Pakuni

Quote from: MU82 on Today at 11:22:47 AMSeriously, what is the attraction of Nagy? Reid, not he, is the mastermind of the KC offense, and he flamed out spectacularly in Chicago. I don't get it.

Tennessee's new(ish) GM is a longtime Kansas City guy, so that explains the connection there.
I don't think he's an especially good head coach, but his tensure in Chicago wasn't as bad as it's remembered, IMO. He was 25-13 with Mitch Trubisky as his starting QB. Even if you take away his first year, he was 14-10 in games Trubisky started. Not world-beating, but not a disaster either.
Things really fell apart when Justin Fields was foisted upon him and he hired Sean Desai as his DC.

I still wouldn't want him coaching my team, but he's not exactly the worst coach the Bears have sent out there this century.

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