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Pakuni

FWIW, amid all the Williams family drama, we've ignored the real Bears news this week ... back to Arlington Heights they go (as always was going to be the case).

https://www.dailyherald.com/20250516/news/bears-shift-stadium-focus-back-to-arlington-heights/

MU82

Quote from: Pakuni on May 18, 2025, 12:37:14 PMFWIW, amid all the Williams family drama, we've ignored the real Bears news this week ... back to Arlington Heights they go (as always was going to be the case).

https://www.dailyherald.com/20250516/news/bears-shift-stadium-focus-back-to-arlington-heights/

Word is, LaVar threatened to move the Bears to Lithuania.
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

WhiteTrash

Quote from: The Sultan on May 18, 2025, 11:23:02 AM???  Wickersham is writing a book about last year. Williams isn't.
Talking to a reporter for an article or book is going public.

You are truly just trying to be difficult.  Shall we debate what day of the week is today?

Pakuni

Quote from: MU82 on May 18, 2025, 12:48:49 PMWord is, LaVar threatened to move the Bears to Lithuania.

Or the CFL. Le Ours of Quebec City.

WhiteTrash

Quote from: MU82 on May 18, 2025, 12:48:49 PMWord is, LaVar threatened to move the Bears to Lithuania.
Threats are a nohing burger. :)

The Sultan

Quote from: WhiteTrash on May 18, 2025, 12:50:47 PMTalking to a reporter for an article or book is going public.

You are truly just trying to be difficult.  Shall we debate what day of the week is today?

No, like Pak, you aren't using any logic at all here.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

Pakuni

Quote from: The Sultan on May 18, 2025, 12:56:46 PMNo, like Pak, you aren't using any logic at all here.

Talking to a reporter on the record isn't "going public."


The Sultan

Quote from: Pakuni on May 18, 2025, 01:04:03 PMTalking to a reporter on the record isn't "going public."



<sigh>

Man, you are really struggling following along this weekend. You OK?
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

WhiteTrash

Quote from: Pakuni on May 18, 2025, 01:04:03 PMTalking to a reporter on the record isn't "going public."


I'm waiting for the world is flat argument.

cheebs09

Quote from: Pakuni on May 18, 2025, 01:04:03 PMTalking to a reporter on the record isn't "going public."



Is there any proof that it was Caleb Williams or his dad talked to the author? It's possible someone else was the source.

Pakuni

Quote from: cheebs09 on May 18, 2025, 02:28:57 PMIs there any proof that it was Caleb Williams or his dad talked to the author? It's possible someone else was the source.

Wickersham discussed his conversations with Carl and Caleb on Chicago sports radio.

https://www.audacy.com/670thescore/sports/chicago-bears/author-shares-insight-caleb-williams-desire-to-avoid-bears

TAMU, Knower of Ball

Of all the dumb arguments on scoop... this was one of them
Quote from: Goose on January 15, 2023, 08:43:46 PM
TAMU

I do know, Newsie is right on you knowing ball.


Vander Blue Man Group

I'm a Bears fan.  Caleb and his dad's concerns were obviously logical and proven to be well-founded considering last season's sh*tshow. 

I imagine his father knew all of their potential solutions to avoiding being drafted by the Bears were Hail Mary's but I can't blame him for at least looking into it. 

Ultimately, Caleb made the logical decision and now has a bunch of weapons, an improved line, and a great offensive mind behind him. 

He's in a great spot to succeed and I'm excited to see how it turns out. 

WhiteTrash

Quote from: TAMU, Knower of Ball on May 18, 2025, 02:56:37 PMOf all the dumb arguments on scoop... this was one of them
Arguing who rates a 7 and who rates an 8 on the crazy scale between Ball and Williams is dumb? Agreed.

I honestly don't know how the 'Caleb's dad went public' is an argument. Never in a million years did I consider that an objectionable or questionable part of of a pretty innocent question.

The Sultan

Quote from: WhiteTrash on May 18, 2025, 03:49:11 PMArguing who rates a 7 and who rates an 8 on the crazy scale between Ball and Williams is dumb? Agreed.

I honestly don't know how the 'Caleb's dad went public' is an argument. Never in a million years did I consider that an objectionable or questionable part of of a pretty innocent question.

Christ almighty. I never claimed he didn't go public. Please read.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

Shaka Shart

Quote from: GB Warrior on May 18, 2025, 10:39:59 AMI gotta say, I lost track of what you all are arguing about.

I'm curious the timing of the quotes (e.g was it before the Bears said they were drafting him no matter what?).

Ultimately I don't think it matters. If he's good (and vis a vis the team is good), no one cares. If he's meh, they're probably not getting to the promised land anyway and the fans will be happy to move on down the road. If he's good and the team is bad, well, he called his shot early and was right.

My guess is he holds an inordinate amount of sway within the organization for an unproven, first contract QB. And these quotes and this story serves as a good reminder to the Bears brass of that

Who is more woke, Caleb or lamelo?
" There are two things I can consistently smell.    Poop and Chlorine.  All poop smells like acrid baby poop mixed with diaper creme. And almost anything that smells remotely like poop; porta-johns, water filtration plants, fertilizer, etc., smells exactly the same." - Tower912

Re: COVID-19

Pakuni

Quote from: Shaka Shart on May 18, 2025, 04:12:56 PMWho is more woke, Caleb or lamelo?

Don't know, but Caleb getting drafted ahead of Drake Maye was a DEI hire.

Jockey

The bigger worry for NFL teams in when Arch Manning is drafted (probably next year). The Manning's have a history in this area.

WhiteTrash

Quote from: Jockey on May 18, 2025, 05:08:25 PMThe bigger worry for NFL teams in when Arch Manning is drafted (probably next year). The Manning's have a history in this area.
Good point. Get your popcorn ready.

Pakuni

Quote from: Jockey on May 18, 2025, 05:08:25 PMThe bigger worry for NFL teams in when Arch Manning is drafted (probably next year). The Manning's have a history in this area.

Far from a sure thing he's coming out anyhow. Both his uncles stayed four years when they could have come out early, the family doesn't need money and he's well compensated at Texas.
That said, the Saints are the early leader for #1 overall pick and I imagine that's a team high on the family's list.

Shaka Shart

Quote from: Pakuni on May 18, 2025, 04:51:27 PMDon't know, but Caleb getting drafted ahead of Drake Maye was a DEI hire.

Thank goodness it's illegal now
" There are two things I can consistently smell.    Poop and Chlorine.  All poop smells like acrid baby poop mixed with diaper creme. And almost anything that smells remotely like poop; porta-johns, water filtration plants, fertilizer, etc., smells exactly the same." - Tower912

Re: COVID-19

MU82

$181M guaranteed (and $265M overall) for Brock Purdy.

I mean, I guess SF had no choice ... but yikes!
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

Uncle Rico

Quote from: MU82 on May 19, 2025, 10:05:58 AM$181M guaranteed (and $265M overall) for Brock Purdy.

I mean, I guess SF had no choice ... but yikes!

The cap will keep going up.  We always overreact to these deals of mid-level QBs.  Given the dearth of Purdy-level QBs, this deal is fine
"Well, we're all going to die."

The Sultan

"Fall of Favre" was OK. Didn't really cover that much new ground, but of course I already knew most of it. The Jenn Sterger harrassment was way worse than I remembered.

Mike Vick's participation certainly lended an interesting twist to it however.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

Uncle Rico

Tush Push lives on.

Packers will have to stop it on the field much to the chagrin of their organization
"Well, we're all going to die."

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