2025-26 NFL Thread

[MuggsyB]

Oh....boy. 

[jesmu84]

I was wrong about Caleb.

Did you also believe he was a "generational talent"?

[jesmu84]

Vikings had 5 first downs in the first 3 quarters

[MuggsyB]

Can Santos kick it out of the end zone?

[jesmu84]

Ben is going to find offense is harder when you don't have an OL or any decent RBs

[wadesworld]

Did you also believe he was a "generational talent"?

Generational? No. Good NFL QB? I thought he'd be that.

[GB Warrior]

Unironically the Bears are better off tonight if Anders were the kicker

[jesmu84]

Only thing that matters there is the clock.

Kick it out of bounds

[MuggsyB]

I guess not.

[Dish]

It's a good thing Ben Johnson challenged that non-fumble earlier.

Seems relevant.

[MuggsyB]

Glancing at the Bears schedule we could be looking at 5 wins or less. 

[jesmu84]

Seems relevant.

That challenge/timeout didn't lose them this game

[jesmu84]

Only thing that matters there is the clock.

Kick it out of bounds

Or kick it short of the landing zone

[Dish]

That challenge/timeout didn't lose them this game

It clear as day was not a fumble. In no way should he have even considered challenging that play.

[jesmu84]

It clear as day was not a fumble. In no way should he have even considered challenging that play.

My statement stands.

The bears lost this game with or without that TO.

Heck, the Darnell Wright phantom holding call was way more impactful.

[GB Warrior]

If it makes Bears fans feel better, Caleb looks like an all pro running back

[jesmu84]

If it makes Bears fans feel better, Caleb looks like an all pro running back

Nah. You're confusing him with Justin Fields

[Jockey]

Glancing at the Bears schedule we could be looking at 5 wins or less.

So you're saying that the Bears will keep Bears-ing.

[JWags85]

Jokes and dumb bust talk aside, Williams is improved from last season, without a doubt.  How much and how consistent he will be remains to be seen.  He missed some throws but he also absolutely made some throws he didn't make last year.  He looks much better in the pocket and only took 1 actual sack (the other was the step out of bounds throwing on the run), given the pressure Flores brought, last year he would have taken 5-6.

Choking a game you have very much in hand at home sucks, but much more to build on than last year. Need Roschon and a semi-healthy secondary back in a hurry

[Dish]

Lot of rough nights (Jonah Jackson was money poorly spent months ago and he showed it tonight).

Ben Johnson, I don't know if the stage was too big for him or what, but he was mindless at important moments. How does he not have Santos blatantly kickoff out of bounds at 2:02 in the fourth?

I don't believe Caleb is fixable. The issues that I had with him in his last year at USC keep showing themselves. He's not the guy, and the sooner they realize he's a sunk cost, the better. I'd love for him to prove me wrong, but the eye test just doesn't see it.

[GB Warrior]

Lot of rough nights (Jonah Jackson was money poorly spent months ago and he showed it tonight).

Ben Johnson, I don't know if the stage was too big for him or what, but he was mindless at important moments. How does he not have Santos blatantly kickoff out of bounds at 2:02 in the fourth?

I don't believe Caleb is fixable. The issues that I had with him in his last year at USC keep showing themselves. He's not the guy, and the sooner they realize he's a sunk cost, the better. I'd love for him to prove me wrong, but the eye test just doesn't see it.

I thought today was progress for Williams against a very good defense. It wasn't a quantum leap but his pocket presence was much improved, and I thought he balanced the quick game with his own desire to extend. You'd hope Johnson feels more comfortable pushing the ball downfield, though. Teams are going to start squating on it until they prove they can throw it (and complete it) deep.

It's week 1. Nothing is real with any degree of certainty.

[Jockey]

I agree on Caleb. He can make a few great throws per game, but is sorely lacking in the top 2 qualities for a QB - accuracy and reading defenses.

[Jay Bee]

Some of that guy's passes were waaayy off. A lot of them. Thought the accuracy was scary bad

[forgetful]

Only thing that matters there is the clock.

Kick it out of bounds

If you weren't going to kick it out of bounds, they should have went for an onside kick. The alternative (which they took) was at absolute best maybe getting the ball back with 20 seconds.

Really bad coaching at the end. Not to mention a boneheaded challenge that cost one of their TOs.

[JWags85]

Ben Johnson, I don't know if the stage was too big for him or what, but he was mindless at important moments. How does he not have Santos blatantly kickoff out of bounds at 2:02 in the fourth?

I could be mistaken but if they kick OOB, doesn't Minnesota have the option of a rekick?

Speaking of Santos, missing a hugely impactful 50 yard FG on a weekend where guys were pumping in bombs all over the league, and then not having the leg to clear the end zone is yet another issue