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The Sultan

#675
August 27, 2025, 07:46:09 AM
Quote from: Uncle Rico on August 27, 2025, 07:40:04 AMThe great white whale this year is "Lukas Van Ness SZN".  Color me skeptical

Well Lester ended up being a completely serviceable player after he left Green Bay. So I get the optimism.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

MU82

#676
August 27, 2025, 12:09:41 PM
Vikings bring back Adam Thielen, send draft picks to Charlotte.

Good move for the Vikings. He's still a good WR and they needed help at the position.

The Panthers, already young, just got younger. Probably an OK move, but time will tell. I'd be happier about their WR room if they had drafted Golden.
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

tower912

#677
August 28, 2025, 02:01:36 PM
Should GB blow up their salary cap and give up a Herschel Walker haul to get Parsons?
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

MU82

#678
August 28, 2025, 02:27:35 PM Last Edit: August 28, 2025, 03:39:58 PM by MU82
Quote from: tower912 on August 28, 2025, 02:01:36 PMShould GB blow up their salary cap and give up a Herschel Walker haul to get Parsons?

Sure. Giving up a Herschel Walker haul helped the 1989-91 Vikings reach new heights!
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

Jockey

#679
August 28, 2025, 03:32:41 PM
Quote from: tower912 on August 28, 2025, 02:01:36 PMShould GB blow up their salary cap and give up a Herschel Walker haul to get Parsons?

Salary cap is fine and Gutey would never give up a haul.

The Sultan

#680
August 28, 2025, 03:39:42 PM
Quote from: Jockey on August 28, 2025, 03:32:41 PMSalary cap is fine and Gutey would never give up a haul.

That's what is so strange about this whole thing. It's not that hard to get out from under a bad contract in today's NFL. But I know. Jerry is running a marketing effort disguised as a football team.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

cheebs09

#681
August 28, 2025, 04:04:06 PM
Quote from: cheebs09 on August 26, 2025, 10:32:42 PMThis has #donedeal written all over it.

It appears I was wrong.

The Sultan

#682
August 28, 2025, 04:04:31 PM
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GB Warrior

#683
August 28, 2025, 04:09:47 PM
LFG

jesmu84

#684
August 28, 2025, 04:12:05 PM
Quote from: Jockey on August 28, 2025, 03:32:41 PMSalary cap is fine and Gutey would never give up a haul.

"At least 2 first round picks"

jesmu84

#685
August 28, 2025, 04:15:29 PM
4yr, $180mil

cheebs09

#686
August 28, 2025, 04:16:59 PM
Quote from: jesmu84 on August 28, 2025, 04:12:05 PM"At least 2 first round picks"

With the way he uses them, that's not much to give up.

wadesworld

#687
August 28, 2025, 04:17:50 PM
Kenny Clark and 2 firsts is it?  Sure!

Uncle Rico

#688
August 28, 2025, 04:18:34 PM
Should make getting to 9-wins easier
How bad slavery was

GB Warrior

#689
August 28, 2025, 04:22:53 PM
You can recreate this version of Kenny in the aggregate. He was a cut candidate after this year.

The Sultan

#690
August 28, 2025, 04:25:28 PM
Quote from: wadesworld on August 28, 2025, 04:17:50 PMKenny Clark and 2 firsts is it?  Sure!

Dumping that contract too? My goodness.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

Jockey

#691
August 28, 2025, 04:50:48 PM
Quote from: wadesworld on August 28, 2025, 04:17:50 PMKenny Clark and 2 firsts is it?  Sure!

Love it. Clark has been an average guy for a couple years and getting rid of his contract helps a lot.

I thought the whole deal was a pipe dream until I heard Gutey yesterday. Even then, I can't understand why the Cowboys would trade him for 2 late 1st rounders.

Dish

#692
August 28, 2025, 04:52:27 PM
Obviously a great trade for the Packers. Both first rounders should be late in the first.

2026 they'll have to most likely do a lot of roster juggling. They can absorb Clark's dead cap and however the Parsons money shakes out (my guess is it'll be heavier in 26-28). I'm sure they're not overly concerned about that right now. This does put a lot of pressure on Jordan Love in '25 & '26 (they'll have a decision to make after the '26 season).

Just an all time poor leverage play by Jerry Jones and the Cowboys. Amazingly bad here if that's all they could get for Parsons.

RJax55

#693
August 28, 2025, 04:53:00 PM
Quote from: Jockey on August 28, 2025, 04:50:48 PMLove it. Clark has been an average guy for a couple years and getting rid of his contract helps a lot.

I thought the whole deal was a pipe dream until I heard Gutey yesterday. Even then, I can't understand why the Cowboys would trade him for 2 late 1st rounders.

Because Jerry Jones has become Al Davis.

Uncle Rico

#694
August 28, 2025, 04:55:34 PM Last Edit: August 28, 2025, 04:58:10 PM by Uncle Rico
Quote from: Dish on August 28, 2025, 04:52:27 PMObviously a great trade for the Packers. Both first rounders should be late in the first.

2026 they'll have to most likely do a lot of roster juggling. They can absorb Clark's dead cap and however the Parsons money shakes out (my guess is it'll be heavier in 26-28). I'm sure they're not overly concerned about that right now. This does put a lot of pressure on Jordan Love in '25 & '26 (they'll have a decision to make after the '26 season).

Just an all time poor leverage play by Jerry Jones and the Cowboys. Amazingly bad here if that's all they could get for Parsons.

What did the Bears give up for Mack?  That seems like the ask at the least.

Never mind.  Not that big a difference in compensation but still not enough, probably
How bad slavery was

GB Warrior

#695
August 28, 2025, 06:28:17 PM
Quote from: Uncle Rico on August 28, 2025, 04:55:34 PMWhat did the Bears give up for Mack?  That seems like the ask at the least.

Never mind.  Not that big a difference in compensation but still not enough, probably

Yeah it's pretty close. But I think the market has gone up. Jerry botched it.

WhiteTrash

#696
August 28, 2025, 06:43:38 PM
Great deal for the Pack. He's been reliable and very productive. The North is going to be must see TV.

Jockey

#697
August 28, 2025, 07:09:06 PM
Quote from: Dish on August 28, 2025, 04:52:27 PMObviously a great trade for the Packers. Both first rounders should be late in the first.

2026 they'll have to most likely do a lot of roster juggling. They can absorb Clark's dead cap and however the Parsons money shakes out (my guess is it'll be heavier in 26-28). I'm sure they're not overly concerned about that right now. This does put a lot of pressure on Jordan Love in '25 & '26 (they'll have a decision to make after the '26 season).

Just an all time poor leverage play by Jerry Jones and the Cowboys. Amazingly bad here if that's all they could get for Parsons.

Besides not having to pay Clark next year, they almost assuredly won't be paying Elgton Jenkins (approx. $15m) either.

Dish

#698
August 28, 2025, 08:22:56 PM
Quote from: Jockey on August 28, 2025, 07:09:06 PMBesides not having to pay Clark next year, they almost assuredly won't be paying Elgton Jenkins (approx. $15m) either.

Clark will count $17M in dead cap for Green Bay next season.

The Sultan

#699
August 28, 2025, 08:33:34 PM
Quote from: Dish on August 28, 2025, 08:22:56 PMClark will count $17M in dead cap for Green Bay next season.

Right. But that's completely manageable.
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