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WhiteTrash

Quote from: MU82 on August 14, 2025, 12:32:05 PMYup. Can't get snowier or flakier than losers who would stop being a fan over that.
Right?

In college they add a lot with how they toss the girls up in the air. Those guys are fit and smartly spend large amounts of time around cute girls. I've never found male cheerleaders weird.

Uncle Rico

Wait until they find out Ronald Reagan was a cheerleader in college 🤯
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Shaka Shart

Quote from: Uncle Rico on August 14, 2025, 02:11:23 PMWait until they find out Ronald Reagan was a cheerleader in college 🤯

His wife was good for a tumble in her earlier years too
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Quote from: WhiteTrash on August 14, 2025, 02:10:23 PMRight?

In college they add a lot with how they toss the girls up in the air. Those guys are fit and smartly spend large amounts of time around cute girls. I've never found male cheerleaders weird.

my neighbor in McCormick became a cheerleader sophomore year and the guy elected MUSG president for 1995-96 (who worked the desk at McCormick and looked the other way on Friday afternoons, if you know what I mean) was a cheerleader, and both were jacked. Each of them could rip one of these whining candyasses in half...if they actually had the guts to say to their faces what they say online.

These two for the Vikings seem to be dance team members instead of traditional cheerleaders, to which I say "nice job." That is hard work and takes a high level of fitness and skill.  Maybe these whiners are jealous...or are afraid they won't be able to avert their gazes.
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Uncle Rico

Quote from: Shaka Shart on August 14, 2025, 02:16:10 PMHis wife was good for a tumble in her earlier years too

At least she wasn't doing nude modeling
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Jay Bee

Now I can't really argue when ppl call us the Viqueens

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Uncle Rico

Quote from: Jay Bee on August 14, 2025, 04:12:22 PMNow I can't really argue when ppl call us the Viqueens



Why?
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Pakuni

Quote from: Billy Hoyle on August 14, 2025, 11:39:01 AMwow, the Vikings have triggered the snowflake masses for something other than their on-field performance.

https://www.newsweek.com/minnesota-vikings-male-cheerleaders-backlash-maga-conservatives-2113363

Real football fans don't want to see that.
They want to see fit young men in tight pants dashing about and touching each other roughly.

tower912

Don't start on the relationship between and QB and his center.
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

GB Warrior

Quote from: tower912 on August 14, 2025, 08:47:50 PMDon't start on the relationship between and QB and his center.

What happens between a QB and the center is between the two of them. Unless it's Rex Grossman, then the defense gets involved.

JWags85

Quote from: Billy Hoyle on August 14, 2025, 02:30:28 PMmy neighbor in McCormick became a cheerleader sophomore year and the guy elected MUSG president for 1995-96 (who worked the desk at McCormick and looked the other way on Friday afternoons, if you know what I mean) was a cheerleader, and both were jacked. Each of them could rip one of these whining candyasses in half...if they actually had the guts to say to their faces what they say online.

These two for the Vikings seem to be dance team members instead of traditional cheerleaders, to which I say "nice job." That is hard work and takes a high level of fitness and skill.  Maybe these whiners are jealous...or are afraid they won't be able to avert their gazes.

Yea, male cheerleaders are usually former HS football players who weren't good enough to play in college but still are jacked and interested in keeping fit and athletic.  I actually knew a male cheerleader in college who was an all-conference LB his sophomore year, broke his leg badly and ended his career, but then ended up joining the cheerleading team on recovery.

As for the male dance team members, it certainly doesn't bother me, but I am vaguely curious who its marketed towards/targeted at.  Make whatever modern arguments you want about misogyny and the male gaze, but attractive women have been associated with cheering on male athletes for centuries.  Its kind of part and parcel with sports, and it helped spawn the athletic and financial opportunities that cheerleading as a sport has become.  Maybe its just simply "whoever wants to be on the dance team can be" which is sort of a change from the previous norm, just curious about the social media/marketing angle cause there always is one.  Either way, who really cares, its not hurting anyone.

St Johns had an, ahem, larger male on their dance team circa 19-20 and he was hilarious.  Like truly good for him, but seeing a bunch of petite 5'2-5'8 dancers and then a 6'2 dude with a bigger build who was VERY dramatic and into every move was just contrast at its finest and very amusing.

Uncle Rico

Quote from: JWags85 on August 14, 2025, 09:02:11 PMYea, male cheerleaders are usually former HS football players who weren't good enough to play in college but still are jacked and interested in keeping fit and athletic.  I actually knew a male cheerleader in college who was an all-conference LB his sophomore year, broke his leg badly and ended his career, but then ended up joining the cheerleading team on recovery.

As for the male dance team members, it certainly doesn't bother me, but I am vaguely curious who its marketed towards/targeted at.  Make whatever modern arguments you want about misogyny and the male gaze, but attractive women have been associated with cheering on male athletes for centuries.  Its kind of part and parcel with sports, and it helped spawn the athletic and financial opportunities that cheerleading as a sport has become.  Maybe its just simply "whoever wants to be on the dance team can be" which is sort of a change from the previous norm, just curious about the social media/marketing angle cause there always is one.  Either way, who really cares, its not hurting anyone.

St Johns had an, ahem, larger male on their dance team circa 19-20 and he was hilarious.  Like truly good for him, but seeing a bunch of petite 5'2-5'8 dancers and then a 6'2 dude with a bigger build who was VERY dramatic and into every move was just contrast at its finest and very amusing.

If he wanted to stay jacked and fit, he should have taken up something more manly, like pickleball.
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Billy Hoyle

Quote from: JWags85 on August 14, 2025, 09:02:11 PMAs for the male dance team members, it certainly doesn't bother me, but I am vaguely curious who its marketed towards/targeted at.  Make whatever modern arguments you want about misogyny and the male gaze, but attractive women have been associated with cheering on male athletes for centuries.  Its kind of part and parcel with sports, and it helped spawn the athletic and financial opportunities that cheerleading as a sport has become.  Maybe its just simply "whoever wants to be on the dance team can be" which is sort of a change from the previous norm, just curious about the social media/marketing angle cause there always is one.  Either way, who really cares, its not hurting anyone.

St Johns had an, ahem, larger male on their dance team circa 19-20 and he was hilarious.  Like truly good for him, but seeing a bunch of petite 5'2-5'8 dancers and then a 6'2 dude with a bigger build who was VERY dramatic and into every move was just contrast at its finest and very amusing.

I don't think having a male dancer is "marketed" towards anyone.

This must be the guy you were thinking of. There were other men before him on the dance team too. Society has seemed to survive it.

https://www.torchonline.com/features/2017/10/25/meet-matthew-kirschenheiter/
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WhiteTrash

I'd be interested in what women think of the male dace team members.

GB Warrior

Quote from: WhiteTrash on August 15, 2025, 12:15:45 PMI'd be interested in what women think of the male dace team members.

Statistically less likely to be assaulted by them than by their dentist

Billy Hoyle

Quote from: WhiteTrash on August 15, 2025, 12:15:45 PMI'd be interested in what women think of the male dace team members.

here's a quote from the article I linked above:

One of Kirschenheiter's fellow dancers, Natalie Affenita, said she enjoys dancing alongside Kirschenheiter. As a senior on the team, Affenita says she's had the opportunity to dance with a co-ed team twice during her time at St. John's.

"Matt is always encouraging me through the dances and I absolutely love it," Affenita said. "Overall, Matt is an amazing addition to the team and I can't wait to see what the future holds for him."
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Jay Bee

Quote from: Billy Hoyle on August 15, 2025, 01:36:17 PMhere's a quote from the article I linked above:

One of Kirschenheiter's fellow dancers, Natalie Affenita, said she enjoys dancing alongside Kirschenheiter. As a senior on the team, Affenita says she's had the opportunity to dance with a co-ed team twice during her time at St. John's.

"Matt is always encouraging me through the dances and I absolutely love it," Affenita said. "Overall, Matt is an amazing addition to the team and I can't wait to see what the future holds for him."


I'm shocked she didn't publicly let loose. smh
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Shaka Shart

This Elgersma guy just has something I like about him that Love and Willis don't. Can't put my finger on it
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Quote from: WhiteTrash on August 15, 2025, 12:15:45 PMI'd be interested in what women think of the male dace team members.

You and I are both old enough to remember the 1997 movie The Full Monty. My guess is that the 50 something women who loved that movie will be fantasizing. Those 40 or younger...not so much.
Wild horses couldn't drag me into either political party, but for very different reasons.

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Shaka Shart

That was a very competent 93 yard drive by Williams.
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MuggsyB

The Bears are back!!  I don't care if it's preseason.  Tremendous drive.  :)

PointWarrior

Quote from: Shaka Shart on August 17, 2025, 07:21:13 PMThat was a very competent 93 yard drive by Williams.


Nah, the Seahawks whooped the Chiefs in pre-season, they are now the favorites for the Super Bowl. 

Shaka Shart

Quote from: PointWarrior on August 17, 2025, 10:00:54 PMNah, the Seahawks whooped the Chiefs in pre-season, they are now the favorites for the Super Bowl. 

Their QB lead his team to a 14-3 record, you never know!
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Its preseason, so who really cares.  But Williams looked great on his drive and I really liked what I saw from Johnson's offense.  Couple of small things like some of the crossing route trees, motion before a few running plays, just a few wrinkles that looked VERY different than the past few years.  Nice to have some sort of optimism going into the season with tempered expectations.

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