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Quote from: JWags85 on Today at 09:52:10 AMAbsurd? Yes.  But I think Stafford was the deserving winner, so charge it to the game.  Also, Pats fans don't need anything else to crow about. 

This Pats team is completely different from a decade ago.  I respected BB but couldn't stand him.  Same with Brady.  However, I really like Vrabel and Maye doesn't have anything to dislike about him.  But Pats fans are acting like they DESERVE this team and this season and another ring cause they've been through so much, like they served their penance for having a dynasty.  F that noise.

The replies from Pats' fans to Monson's tweet make me hope Seattle wins by a million. They make Ohio State fans seem likeable.

Billy Hoyle

Quote from: wadesworld on Today at 09:38:12 AMThe Eagles were 11-6 the year before Saquan got there and 14-3 and played in the Super Bowl the year before that.  They would've been just fine without Saquan.

The MVP goes to a QB because it's far and away the most important (valuable) position in football.

Look at the starting running backs for the Super Bowl winning teams in the last decade.  Yes, Saquan is one of the best running backs in the NFL.  But you otherwise have Isiah Pacheco x2, Cam Akers, Leonard Fournette, Damian Williams, Sony Michel, LeGarrette Blount x2 (for 2 different teams, and if you add in one extra year, he's x3), and CJ Anderson as the running backs for your Super Bowl champions.  It kind of shows the value of a running back might not be remotely close to what the value of a quarterback is when you compare that list to the QBs (Hurts and Foles being the worst, but then Mahommes x3, Stafford, Brady x3 and would be 4 if you extend it one more year, Manning).

I get you, but my view on Saquon for 2024 is that Philly completely melted down the season before: Sirianni was on thin ice, the OC was canned, and Hurts was a mediocre QB. Saquon came in and totally carried that team and hit the 2000-yard mark in only 16 games. Hurts isn't going to lead a team to a Super Bowl title. I don't think Philly would have been 14-3 without Saquon at RB.
"Kevin thinks 'mother' is half a word." - Mike Deane

JWags85

Luke Kuechly becomes the second youngest player ever inducted into the Pro Football HOF.  Pretty wild considering the only youngest was Gale Sayers who was inducted 50 years ago into a very different caliber/amount of HOFers

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