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Dish

#401
June 02, 2025, 11:17:48 AM
That Lions title contender window is going to close incredibly fast, yikes.

Jockey

#402
June 02, 2025, 12:26:52 PM
Quote from: Pakuni on June 02, 2025, 11:07:14 AMhttps://x.com/RapSheet/status/1929569634388160910

I wonder if they had an inkling of this ahead of the draft. They took a couple guards, including one in the 2nd if I remember correctly.

Uncle Rico

#403
June 02, 2025, 12:34:33 PM
Quote from: Jockey on June 02, 2025, 12:26:52 PMI wonder if they had an inkling of this ahead of the draft. They took a couple guards, including one in the 2nd if I remember correctly.

All indications seem to be the Lions were well aware of this possibility.
"May every day be another wonderful secret"

JWags85

#404
June 02, 2025, 12:47:00 PM
A back to back All Pro the last 2 years retiring at 29 is brutal.  Kudos to him for prioritizing his future but the Barry Sanders flashbacks can't be fun in Detroit.

The Sultan

#405
June 02, 2025, 12:51:21 PM
Quote from: JWags85 on June 02, 2025, 12:47:00 PMA back to back All Pro the last 2 years retiring at 29 is brutal.  Kudos to him for prioritizing his future but the Barry Sanders flashbacks can't be fun in Detroit.

IDK, this feels more like a Travis Frederick situation than a Sanders one.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

cheebs09

#406
June 02, 2025, 01:23:24 PM
Is Rodgers going to pull a Favre and make the Steelers come to Cali to woo him? Or is he just staying silent to avoid as much of the offseason as possible?

Billy Hoyle

#407
June 02, 2025, 01:28:08 PM
Quote from: Jockey on June 02, 2025, 12:26:52 PMI wonder if they had an inkling of this ahead of the draft. They took a couple guards, including one in the 2nd if I remember correctly.

Glasgow has been working out at center and is more than ready to step in:

https://x.com/colton_pouncy/status/1929586506319942056
"Kevin thinks 'mother' is half a word." - Mike Deane

Billy Hoyle

#408
June 02, 2025, 01:29:06 PM
Quote from: cheebs09 on June 02, 2025, 01:23:24 PMIs Rodgers going to pull a Favre and make the Steelers come to Cali to woo him? Or is he just staying silent to avoid as much of the offseason as possible?

I think he's waiting for the Deputy Secretary of HHS appointment to come through first.
"Kevin thinks 'mother' is half a word." - Mike Deane

The Sultan

#409
June 02, 2025, 01:29:43 PM
Quote from: cheebs09 on June 02, 2025, 01:23:24 PMIs Rodgers going to pull a Favre and make the Steelers come to Cali to woo him? Or is he just staying silent to avoid as much of the offseason as possible?

He's missed half the OTAs and mandatory mini-camp starts next week. You'd think he would need to make his decision soon.

IDK...unless he has some verbal agreement already, I would just move on. This already has tons of red flags if you're the Steelers.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

Uncle Rico

#410
June 02, 2025, 02:08:30 PM
Quote from: The Sultan on June 02, 2025, 01:29:43 PMHe's missed half the OTAs and mandatory mini-camp starts next week. You'd think he would need to make his decision soon.

IDK...unless he has some verbal agreement already, I would just move on. This already has tons of red flags if you're the Steelers.

Plus, he sucks
"May every day be another wonderful secret"

JWags85

#411
June 02, 2025, 02:19:36 PM
Quote from: The Sultan on June 02, 2025, 12:51:21 PMIDK, this feels more like a Travis Frederick situation than a Sanders one.

I just meant as another elite Lions star to retire very early.

Wasn't Frederick having Guillain-Barre Syndrome, if I recall right, a significant factor?  I wasn't aware of Ragnow having an underlying condition?

The Sultan

#412
June 02, 2025, 02:33:11 PM
Quote from: JWags85 on June 02, 2025, 02:19:36 PMI just meant as another elite Lions star to retire very early.

Wasn't Frederick having Guillain-Barre Syndrome, if I recall right, a significant factor?  I wasn't aware of Ragnow having an underlying condition?

Just injuries. Frederick was also a pretty smart dude (computer science and engineering double major) and I think was involved in a start up that got sold off last year.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

tower912

#413
June 02, 2025, 03:18:06 PM Last Edit: June 02, 2025, 06:29:58 PM by tower912
Ah, well.  I guess the toe was too painful.   I have to assume they had an inkling since they went trenches early.  It didn't make a ton of sense to me at the time, except as a long term play to build up depth and have replacements ready when Ragnow and Decker retired.   I guess they knew something the rest of us didn't.

Glasgow to center.  Two of the three of Mahogany, Ratledge, Frazier at guard.   A season from now, I think Ratledge slides to center.

Obviously,  Ragnow was a class of one.  Detroit has a bunch if big young maulers to choose from.
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

Uncle Rico

#414
June 02, 2025, 03:47:31 PM
Quote from: tower912 on June 02, 2025, 03:18:06 PMAh, well.  I guess the toe was too painful.  I have to assume they had an inkling since they went trenches early.  It didn't make a ton of sense to me at the time, accept as a long term play to build up depth and have replacements ready when Ragnow and Decker retired.  I guess they knew something the rest of us didn't.

Glasgow to center.  Two of the three of Mahogany, Ratledge, Frazier at guard.  A season from now, I think Ratledge slides to center.

Obviously,  Ragnow was a class of one.  Detroit has a bunch if big young maulers to choose from.

The Lions window is shut.  Dark days have returned.  The Packers run the division now
"May every day be another wonderful secret"

tower912

#415
June 02, 2025, 03:48:30 PM
The Lions windows never opened.  The curse supercedes everything.
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

Uncle Rico

#416
June 02, 2025, 04:19:55 PM
Quote from: tower912 on June 02, 2025, 03:48:30 PMThe Lions windows never opened.  The curse supercedes everything.

If the Packers bring Anders home, lookout
"May every day be another wonderful secret"

Pakuni

#417
June 02, 2025, 05:04:50 PM
Quote from: Uncle Rico on June 02, 2025, 03:47:31 PMThe Lions window is shut.  Dark days have returned.  The Packers run the division now

Lions' window shut on a 4th-and-3 in Santa Clara.

Uncle Rico

#418
June 02, 2025, 05:35:43 PM
Quote from: Pakuni on June 02, 2025, 05:04:50 PMLions' window shut on a 4th-and-3 in Santa Clara.

They're one of the few teams in the NFL that had a one-year window, unlike the Packers who have a window that is always open or the Bears who don't have a window
"May every day be another wonderful secret"

GB Warrior

#419
June 02, 2025, 05:52:39 PM
Quote from: tower912 on June 02, 2025, 03:18:06 PMAh, well.  I guess the toe was too painful.   I have to assume they had an inkling since they went trenches early.  It didn't make a ton of sense to me at the time, accept as a long term play to build up depth and have replacements ready when Ragnow and Decker retired.   I guess they knew something the rest of us didn't.

Glasgow to center.  Two of the three of Mahogany, Ratledge, Frazier at guard.   A season from now, I think Ratledge slides to center.

Obviously,  Ragnow was a class of one.  Detroit has a bunch if big young maulers to choose from.


Disregarding the facts. Lions terrible franchise drives another star to hate football and retire early. At least this one wasn't top 5 all time

tower912

#420
June 03, 2025, 06:42:12 AM
A season ago Philadelphia replaced a legendary center and their O and D coordinators.   Just sayin'.
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

Jay Bee

#421
June 03, 2025, 07:51:15 AM
Quote from: The Sultan on June 02, 2025, 02:33:11 PMJust injuries. Frederick was also a pretty smart dude (computer science and engineering double major)

Went to a sh1t school where A's on a bell curve were easy
The portal is NOT closed.

Jockey

#422
June 03, 2025, 10:28:49 AM
Quote from: tower912 on June 03, 2025, 06:42:12 AMA season ago Philadelphia replaced a legendary center and their O and D coordinators.   Just sayin'.

The difference between a good and a great center is nowhere near the difference between a good LT and a great LT. The Lions line will be fine. They have 2 very OL friendly RBs in place.

Billy Hoyle

#423
June 03, 2025, 10:37:24 AM
Quote from: Jockey on June 03, 2025, 10:28:49 AMThe difference between a good and a great center is nowhere near the difference between a good LT and a great LT. The Lions line will be fine. They have 2 very OL friendly RBs in place.

I don't think this was a big surprise to the Lions:
https://atozsports.com/nfl/detroit-lions-news/the-lions-may-have-been-secretly-telling-us-about-frank-ragnows-retirement-all-offseason-why-nobody-seemed-to-notice/
"Kevin thinks 'mother' is half a word." - Mike Deane

tower912

#424
June 03, 2025, 11:30:01 AM Last Edit: June 03, 2025, 01:11:35 PM by tower912
As I said earlier, the Lions draft makes more sense (two huge mauler SEC linemen) if they knew.
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.
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