2025-26 NFL Thread

[barfolomew]

Derek Carr retiring due to shoulder injury. Do the Saints go after Roger's?

Go after Roger's what? Roger's shoulder?

In the 70's, it cost six million dollars to transplant something like that.
Imagine it would cost much more now.

[Billy Hoyle]

Go after Roger's what? Roger's shoulder?

In the 70's, it cost six million dollars to transplant something like that.
Imagine it would cost much more now.

Forget about the cost, the real problem is that the OSI has already been eliminated.

[Shaka Shart]

Boy that bears schedule sure doesn't feel like a last place schedule

[WhiteTrash]

Boy that bears schedule sure doesn't feel like a last place schedule

2nd hardest in the NFL.

[tower912]

Playing GB, Minnesota, and Detroit 6 times hurts.

[WhiteTrash]

The eight hardest schedules are all in the NFC North and East.

[Uncle Rico]

The NFC North proved their mettle in the post-season

[Dish]

Might just be my opinion, but the Sunday Night Football schedule is pretty poor.

[The Sultan]

Might just be my opinion, but the Sunday Night Football schedule is pretty poor.

I didn't think it was great last year either. Is this because they are tying to keep ESPN happy by pushing better games to Monday?

[Pakuni]

Carl Williams makes Lavar Ball seem almost reasonable.

[The Sultan]

Carl Williams makes Lavar Ball seem almost reasonable.

There is nothing unreasonable about not wanting your quarterback kid getting drafted by the Bears.

[WhiteTrash]

There is nothing unreasonable about not wanting your quarterback kid getting drafted by the Bears.

If it were only just that, you'd have a point.

[Dish]

Carl Williams makes Lavar Ball seem almost reasonable.

I don't blame Carl one bit, I respect he was looking to maximize his son's earning potential. He and Caleb were right to think that way, based on everything the Bears did (or didn't do). The most damning part of the article was Caleb admitting to his dad that no one in the building watched (or taught to watch) film with him.

They had no structure or culture in place for a QB to come in and be successful. Carl Williams certainly did his homework and due diligence.

[Pakuni]

I don't blame Carl one bit, I respect he was looking to maximize his son's earning potential. He and Caleb were right to think that way, based on everything the Bears did (or didn't do). The most damning part of the article was Caleb admitting to his dad that no one in the building watched (or taught to watch) film with him.

They had no structure or culture in place for a QB to come in and be successful. Carl Williams certainly did his homework and due diligence.

Skepticism about the Bears seems reasonable.

Wanting his kid to play in the UFL for a year in hopes it would be a  workaround the NFL draft (it wouldn't)? Claiming the rookie salary cap is unconstitutional (it isn't)? Trashing the city of Chicago - not the Bears, the city - in hopes it would convince the Bears to pass on him (it wouldn't)?
Nutty.

[jesmu84]

I don't blame Carl one bit, I respect he was looking to maximize his son's earning potential. He and Caleb were right to think that way, based on everything the Bears did (or didn't do). The most damning part of the article was Caleb admitting to his dad that no one in the building watched (or taught to watch) film with him.

They had no structure or culture in place for a QB to come in and be successful. Carl Williams certainly did his homework and due diligence.

Where's Poles or ownership in all this?

Seems like a gaping hole.

Then there's the rumors of Ben wanting the job last year, but they chose to keep ebeflus? Wtf

[WhiteTrash]

Skepticism about the Bears seems reasonable.

Wanting his kid to play in the UFL for a year in hopes it would be a  workaround the NFL draft (it wouldn't)? Claiming the rookie salary cap is unconstitutional (it isn't)? Trashing the city of Chicago - not the Bears, the city - in hopes it would convince the Bears to pass on him (it wouldn't)?
Nutty.

But if he didn't,  he wouldn't be trying to maximize his son's earning potential. 

[WhiteTrash]

Where's Poles or ownership in all this?

Seems like a gaping hole.

Then there's the rumors of Ben wanting the job last year, but they chose to keep ebeflus? Wtf

100% agree. Shocking failure of leadership. Also amazing there are no other players coming forward... yet.

[The Sultan]

Skepticism about the Bears seems reasonable.

Wanting his kid to play in the UFL for a year in hopes it would be a  workaround the NFL draft (it wouldn't)? Claiming the rookie salary cap is unconstitutional (it isn't)? Trashing the city of Chicago - not the Bears, the city - in hopes it would convince the Bears to pass on him (it wouldn't)?
Nutty.

He didn't trash the city. He said that he talked about doing it like the Elways did to get him traded elsewhere. And exploring signing with UFL to circumvent the draft is just that - exploring.

[Pakuni]

He didn't trash the city. He said that he talked about doing it like the Elways did to get him traded elsewhere. And exploring signing with UFL to circumvent the draft is just that - exploring.

He didn't stick his kid in the UFL either. Or challenge the constitutionality of a rookie salary cap. I was writing of the dumb ideas he was floating.
Exploring his kid signing in the UFL is idiotic.
 

[The Sultan]

He didn't stick his kid in the UFL either. Or challenge the constitutionality of a rookie salary cap. I was writing of the dumb ideas he was floating.
Exploring his kid signing in the UFL is idiotic.
 

Of course you don't know how seriously he explored any of this and/or was just venting.

And none of this played out in public like it did with Ball. So your comparison is pretty bad.

[WhiteTrash]

Of course you don't know how seriously he explored any of this and/or was just venting.

And none of this played out in public like it did with Ball. So your comparison is pretty bad.

You're really trying hard here. I don't think the publisher would appreciate your "Nothing to see here" take.

[The Sultan]

You're really trying hard here. I don't think the publisher would appreciate your "Nothing to see here" take.

I never said that either. But nice try.

[Pakuni]

Of course you don't know how seriously he explored any of this and/or was just venting.

And none of this played out in public like it did with Ball. So your comparison is pretty bad.

Is there a particular level of seriousness required for it to be a terrible idea? Is a terrible idea only terrible when it plays out in public? Like, if Mike Broeker explored the idea of replacing Shaka with Brian Wardle behind the scenes, would it be reasonable? I mean, he's just exploring it.

Anyhow, some of this did indeed play out in public.
From Sept. 2023:

The father of Heisman Trophy winner Caleb Williams says the Southern California quarterback could stay in school another year, especially if they don't like who has the No. 1 pick in the 2024 Draft.

https://sports.yahoo.com/caleb-williamss-dad-says-son-161151238.html

From July 2023:

Per multiple sources, the representatives of USC quarterback Caleb Williams had been making it known to prospective agents that Williams wants partial ownership of the team that selects him in 2024, if he declares for the draft.
https://www.nbcsports.com/nfl/profootballtalk/rumor-mill/news/aaron-rodgers-caleb-williams-were-among-the-players-jostling-for-equity

[wadesworld]

Is there a particular level of seriousness required for it to be a terrible idea? Is a terrible idea only terrible when it plays out in public? Like, if Mike Broeker explored the idea of replacing Shaka with Brian Wardle behind the scenes, would it be reasonable? I mean, he's just exploring it.

Anyhow, some of this did indeed play out in public.
From Sept. 2023:

The father of Heisman Trophy winner Caleb Williams says the Southern California quarterback could stay in school another year, especially if they don't like who has the No. 1 pick in the 2024 Draft.

https://sports.yahoo.com/caleb-williamss-dad-says-son-161151238.html

From July 2023:

Per multiple sources, the representatives of USC quarterback Caleb Williams had been making it known to prospective agents that Williams wants partial ownership of the team that selects him in 2024, if he declares for the draft.
https://www.nbcsports.com/nfl/profootballtalk/rumor-mill/news/aaron-rodgers-caleb-williams-were-among-the-players-jostling-for-equity

Depending on how things go, might've been smart to go back to USC and make NIL money. Play for the Titans after that.

[Pakuni]

Depending on how things go, might've been smart to go back to USC and make NIL money. Play for the Titans after that.

I imagine USC's NIL money wouldn't equal a year's worth of #1 overall pick money, not to mention delaying potential second and third contracts by another year. And then there's the risk of a serious injury or a subpar season hurting your stock.