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tower912

Like the Tigers, needed more from the offense.
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

MU82

Quote from: tower912 on October 13, 2025, 05:49:34 AMBranch should be suspended.  Which just further depletes the secondary.  Plumbers and firefighters next week against Mayfield.

The Seahawks were without half their secondary when they played the Bucs 2 weeks ago, and then another starting CB got hurt early in the game. In the second half, they were playing a safety at CB and a linebacker at safety. It was obvious that they'd have to simply outscore the Bucs ... and they almost did before losing 38-35.

So that's what the Lions will have to do. It makes things difficult, but not impossible.

What hurt the Seahawks is that they also were missing two starting defensive lineman, so they couldn't get much pressure on Mayfield. The linemen were back this week, so even though their secondary was depleted, they were able to get to Lawrence. That's also what the Lions will have to do.
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

tower912

McNeill probably returns against Tampa Bay.  Probably 20ish snaps in passing situations.  It will be up to the front 7.
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

Uncle Rico

Brian Callahan out in Tennessee.

Bring LaFleuer home, Tennessee.
Thus says the Lord of hosts: Render true judgments, show kindness and mercy to one another; do not oppress the widow, the orphan, the alien, or the poor; and do not devise evil in your hearts against one another.

cheebs09

Quote from: Uncle Rico on October 13, 2025, 01:27:26 PMBrian Callahan out in Tennessee.

Bring LaFleuer home, Tennessee.

James Franklin has had success in Tennessee.

Pakuni

Quote from: cheebs09 on October 13, 2025, 01:30:53 PMJames Franklin has had success in Tennessee.

So has Lane Kiffin.

WhiteTrash

Quote from: Uncle Rico on October 13, 2025, 01:27:26 PMBrian Callahan out in Tennessee.

Bring LaFleuer home, Tennessee.
Was anybody expecting better results from the Titans this year?

The Sultan

Quote from: WhiteTrash on October 13, 2025, 03:02:08 PMWas anybody expecting better results from the Titans this year?

No. They are just another poorly run franchise. Next year will be their FIFTH straight with a new GM / head coach combo.

Robinson / Vrabel
Carthon / Vrabel
Carthon / Callahan
Borgonzi / Callahan (plus whomever the interim is)
Borgonzi / ???

There are so many models of competant franchises out there. Why do teams do this?
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

WhiteTrash

Quote from: The Sultan on October 13, 2025, 03:21:27 PMNo. They are just another poorly run franchise. Next year will be their FIFTH straight with a new GM / head coach combo.

Robinson / Vrabel
Carthon / Vrabel
Carthon / Callahan
Borgonzi / Callahan (plus whomever the interim is)
Borgonzi / ???

There are so many models of competant franchises out there. Why do teams do this?
I'd say because they a poorly run, they make consistently make bad hires, that then need to be replaced.

I guess you could give them credit for recognizing poor performers and moving on? The Bulls and White Sox have proven that just keeping people in place does not guaranty good results.

MU82

Justin Fields is really working out nicely for the Jets. A bargain at $30M guaranteed!
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

MUBurrow

Quote from: The Sultan on October 13, 2025, 03:21:27 PMNo. They are just another poorly run franchise. Next year will be their FIFTH straight with a new GM / head coach combo.

Robinson / Vrabel
Carthon / Vrabel
Carthon / Callahan
Borgonzi / Callahan (plus whomever the interim is)
Borgonzi / ???

Good gracious.  Is there a school of thought that its actually better to stick your new coach or GM with an incumbent in the other position.  Just start over. It might not be "fair" but just crap can Borgonzi and say "hey sorry this wasn't really your fault but we can't keep doing this cycle." 

WhiteTrash

Quote from: MU82 on October 13, 2025, 03:31:23 PMJustin Fields is really working out nicely for the Jets. A bargain at $30M guaranteed!
Like Wojo, he just need some more time.  ::)

Pakuni

Quote from: MUBurrow on October 13, 2025, 03:42:13 PMGood gracious.  Is there a school of thought that its actually better to stick your new coach or GM with an incumbent in the other position.  Just start over. It might not be "fair" but just crap can Borgonzi and say "hey sorry this wasn't really your fault but we can't keep doing this cycle." 

If you liked him enough to hire him as your GM nine months ago, you probably should give him a chance to hire a coach.
The mistake was hiring him and forcing him to keep a coach who wasn't his guy and, based on his first year, seemed to be in way over his head. My guess is Borgonzi took the job with assurances that there was a short leash on Callahan and he'd be given an opportunity to hire his own guy if things continued to go south.

GB Warrior

Quote from: WhiteTrash on October 13, 2025, 03:49:21 PMLike Wojo, he just need some more time.  ::)

Can you put a price on being guaranteed the first overall pick

The Sultan

Quote from: Pakuni on October 13, 2025, 03:53:11 PMIf you liked him enough to hire him as your GM nine months ago, you probably should give him a chance to hire a coach.
The mistake was hiring him and forcing him to keep a coach who wasn't his guy and, based on his first year, seemed to be in way over his head. My guess is Borgonzi took the job with assurances that there was a short leash on Callahan and he'd be given an opportunity to hire his own guy if things continued to go south.

So after you draft a rookie quarterback and have him learn another system in year two...
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

The Sultan

Heh. The Titans still owe two years on Robinson's GM contract, three on Carthon's, and three on Callahan's.

Amazing work.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

WhiteTrash

Quote from: The Sultan on October 13, 2025, 04:01:41 PMSo after you draft a rookie quarterback and have him learn another system in year two...
That is the patented Chicago Bears System. You need to pay a royalty when refer to it.

Pakuni

Quote from: The Sultan on October 13, 2025, 04:01:41 PMSo after you draft a rookie quarterback and have him learn another system in year two...


I guess I'm confused by the sentiment. Letting your newly hired pick his coach is dumb, but firing him and letting another newly hired GM pick his coach is smart?
The fault here is with Titans' ownership for bringing in a new GM and forcing him to start the season with his predecessor's coach. You can correct that by letting your new GM pick his coach.

The Sultan

Quote from: Pakuni on October 13, 2025, 04:20:28 PMI guess I'm confused by the sentiment. Letting your newly hired pick his coach is dumb, but firing him and letting another newly hired GM pick his coach is smart?
The fault here is with Titans' ownership for bringing in a new GM and forcing him to start the season with his predecessor's coach. You can correct that by letting your new GM pick his coach.

No, I agree with you. I'm not saying they should keep Callahan. It's obvious he should go.  By doing it this way, you have just made it harder for your quarterback of the future. They should have cleaned house last year.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

GB Warrior

Quote from: The Sultan on October 13, 2025, 04:22:16 PMNo, I agree with you. They should have cleaned house last year. But by doing it this way, you have just made it harder for your quarterback of the future.

No, it teaches him grit and adversity like it did for Baker Mayfield, so that he can go and have a long and impactful career for not your franchise.

Pakuni

Quote from: The Sultan on October 13, 2025, 04:22:16 PMNo, I agree with you. I'm not saying they should keep Callahan. It's obvious he should go.  By doing it this way, you have just made it harder for your quarterback of the future. They should have cleaned house last year.


Got it. My misunderstanding.

Jockey

Can teams in the NFL finally realize how bad Fields is? It's not the other players fault.

tower912

Glad the Lions dodged the Z train this season.
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

Pakuni

Quote from: Jockey on October 13, 2025, 04:58:55 PMCan teams in the NFL finally realize how bad Fields is? It's not the other players fault.

The problem isn't just that Fields is bad, but also that there aren't 30+ people on the planet who are better.
It's probably a combination of poor development by NFL teams and colleges, and the league simply growing beyond the number of people on the planet capable of playing the position at a high level. Regardless, there are more QB1 jobs out there than QB1 people.

GB Warrior

Quote from: tower912 on October 13, 2025, 05:18:44 PMGlad the Lions dodged the Z train this season.

What a nightmare. Hope he gets the help he needs.

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