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The Sultan

I get the romance about Tampa's uniforms, but the reason they moved on from them is because they had such a terrible history in the dreamcicles, just opening the new stadium, and just wanted a re-brand. They are a fun throwback, but there is no need for that to be full-time.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

Billy Hoyle

Quote from: JWags85 on October 06, 2025, 08:27:42 AMPeople talk about Josh Allen and others in comps to Favre, but Baker has always had a lot of Favre in his game to me.  Roughly the same size, mobile and quick but not a gazelle. Its not always pretty, can be unorthodox, but just a gamer who finds ways to make plays, and absurdly fun to watch.

Also, the dual throwback Seahawks and Bucs jerseys were absolutely glorious.  My top two favorite old NFL aesthetics.

Cleveland and Carolina obviously knew what they were doing when they sent Baker packing.
"Kevin thinks 'mother' is half a word." - Mike Deane

JWags85

Quote from: The Sultan on October 06, 2025, 02:30:10 PMI get the romance about Tampa's uniforms, but the reason they moved on from them is because they had such a terrible history in the dreamcicles, just opening the new stadium, and just wanted a re-brand. They are a fun throwback, but there is no need for that to be full-time.

Yea I get it.  It's unfortunate cause Bucco Bruce was Gasparilla/Gulf pirate inspiried, the orange was a nod to the citrusy industry, it was thoughtfully done.  But the ineptitude of the franchise made that all a joke

It's just interesting living the the TB area and seeing the split in new Bucs items for sale and how much better the "throwback" gear ends up looking.  I actually don't mind the flag logo, but overall I think it just feels, as funny as it seems when talking versus a much older logo, dated in that late 90s-early 2000s rebrand era in sports where whimsical and clever/hidden meaning logos were retired for generic aggressive and fierce looking replacements.

It would be nice for a merging of the two like the way the Bucks, Brewers, and others have gotten back to the original color schemes/logos in a blended way.  But I'm not sure how to really do it cause it's such a stark difference

MU82

Quote from: Billy Hoyle on October 06, 2025, 03:33:25 PMCleveland and Carolina obviously knew what they were doing when they sent Baker packing.

There's no defending anything the Panthers have done since Tepper bought the team. They have been terribly managed from top to bottom.

But I saw every play of every game Mayfield played for the Panthers, and he was not a good QB then. He made foolish decisions, constantly tried forcing passes into tight coverage, had lots of passes batted down at the line, etc.

Now, he had precious little talent around him, and crapola coaching. But the same was true for Darnold, who actually played quite well early on for the Panthers.

As we've seen over and over again with these reclamation project QBs - Mayfield, Darnold, Geno, Jones, etc - sometimes a guy just needs a change - with the right fit and the right coaching.

I always liked Mayfield, so I'm glad for him that he's found what he needed in Tampa. And I'm thrilled about how well Darnold has played so far for Seattle.

Both of them had to get out of Charlotte.
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JWags85

Quote from: MU82 on October 06, 2025, 04:50:36 PMBut I saw every play of every game Mayfield played for the Panthers, and he was not a good QB then. He made foolish decisions, constantly tried forcing passes into tight coverage, had lots of passes batted down at the line, etc.

Now, he had precious little talent around him, and crapola coaching. But the same was true for Darnold, who actually played quite well early on for the Panthers.

Its a bit of revisionist history after watching him once he left mid season, but I'm pretty confident in saying Baker wasn't fully healthy/back to 100% with the Panthers.  Joined a new team less than 6 months after shoulder surgery, starting less than 2 months later, I think he was just totally out of sorts physically.  I know it wasn't his throwing shoulder, but the way he plays and throws himself around, I can totally buy not feeling totally comfortable with a surgically repaired shoulder leading to playing poorly.  Add to that the dysfunction in Carolina and there ya go.

Pakuni

Shocking to see the Chefs get some favorable calls.

Jockey

Great play call for the TD

 ;D  ;D

Dish

That drive was the complete Trevor Lawrence experience. It had everything you could ask for.

CreightonWarrior

Chiefs get the L despite the refs best efforts.

forgetful

Quote from: Dish on October 06, 2025, 10:12:35 PMThat drive was the complete Trevor Lawrence experience. It had everything you could ask for.

Including him picking his nose on live TV just before the drive.

Shaka Shart

Quote from: forgetful on October 06, 2025, 10:49:30 PMIncluding him picking his nose on live TV just before the drive.

Trevor Lawrence, scoop poster?
#BanGBWarrior

Uncle Rico

Harrison Butker should spend more time practicing kicking than telling women how to live their lives
Thus says the Lord of hosts: Render true judgments, show kindness and mercy to one another; do not oppress the widow, the orphan, the alien, or the poor; and do not devise evil in your hearts against one another.

MU82

Quote from: JWags85 on October 06, 2025, 08:26:13 PMIts a bit of revisionist history after watching him once he left mid season, but I'm pretty confident in saying Baker wasn't fully healthy/back to 100% with the Panthers.  Joined a new team less than 6 months after shoulder surgery, starting less than 2 months later, I think he was just totally out of sorts physically.  I know it wasn't his throwing shoulder, but the way he plays and throws himself around, I can totally buy not feeling totally comfortable with a surgically repaired shoulder leading to playing poorly.  Add to that the dysfunction in Carolina and there ya go.

That's all reasonable.

He needed to get healthy, he needed to get the eff outta Charlotte, and he needed to find a good fit.

Check, check, and check ... and he's probably the MVP through week 5.
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

Pakuni

#1563

Billy Hoyle

Quote from: Uncle Rico on October 06, 2025, 11:40:44 AMSadly, it appears it wasn't a fatherless black man that caused Mark Sanchez to get felony charges for assault.


Sanchez may soon learn a more disturbing meaning to "butt fumble" in the Marion County Jail
"Kevin thinks 'mother' is half a word." - Mike Deane


MU82

Flacco is 85 years old. But probably still worth a shot to try to save a seemingly doomed season for the Bengals.

Related: Dillon Gabriel was better than I expected. He played at least as well against the Vikings in London as Jaxson Dart did in his debut for the Giants that some were heralding as spectacular. Gabriel definitely played better this past week than Dart did.
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

Jockey


tower912

Bengals defense was solid this past Sunday.
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

The Sultan

"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

Uncle Rico

The continued pants wetting over Bad Bunny might make it the most watched Super Bowl halftime show ever
Thus says the Lord of hosts: Render true judgments, show kindness and mercy to one another; do not oppress the widow, the orphan, the alien, or the poor; and do not devise evil in your hearts against one another.

The Sultan

I think 82 year old Lee Greenwood would be an excellent choice. He's been married five times, the first time to a 17 year old. What's more American than that?
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

Uncle Rico

Quote from: The Sultan on October 08, 2025, 11:50:13 AMI think 82 year old Lee Greenwood would be an excellent choice. He's been married five times, the first time to a 17 year old. What's more American than that?

I don't think marrying underage girls is a crime anymore.
Thus says the Lord of hosts: Render true judgments, show kindness and mercy to one another; do not oppress the widow, the orphan, the alien, or the poor; and do not devise evil in your hearts against one another.

cheebs09

Packers get another crack at Joe Flacco.

Uncle Rico

Quote from: cheebs09 on October 08, 2025, 12:05:03 PMPackers get another crack at Joe Flacco.

If they lose this game...
Thus says the Lord of hosts: Render true judgments, show kindness and mercy to one another; do not oppress the widow, the orphan, the alien, or the poor; and do not devise evil in your hearts against one another.

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