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JWags85

Maxx Crosby is worth every damn penny of that huge extension he signed, holy hell.  He was an absolute demon yesterday.  Not being an apologist for Caleb, but that INT wasn't even his fault, Crosby is just a freak.  Watching the replay from the defensive side of the ball, when the throw begins, Crosby was engaged with the lineman moving to Caleb's right, and then as he starts to come forward, Crosby disengaged, moved right and was straight in front, it was wild.  Really encouraged that Caleb stood in there and made some throws cause Crosby through the first half was enough for any QB to start seeing ghosts.

A rush end with 3 passes defended in a game is nuts.

Shaka Shart

Quote from: JWags85 on September 29, 2025, 11:18:54 AMMaxx Crosby is worth every damn penny of that huge extension he signed, holy hell.  He was an absolute demon yesterday.  Not being an apologist for Caleb, but that INT wasn't even his fault, Crosby is just a freak.  Watching the replay from the defensive side of the ball, when the throw begins, Crosby was engaged with the lineman moving to Caleb's right, and then as he starts to come forward, Crosby disengaged, moved right and was straight in front, it was wild.  Really encouraged that Caleb stood in there and made some throws cause Crosby through the first half was enough for any QB to start seeing ghosts.

A rush end with 3 passes defended in a game is nuts.

Yeah when I saw the replay of that int I was legit just this gif

#BanGBWarrior

BM1090

After last night Love has 1000 yards, 8 TD, 1 INT. He is 2nd in QB rating, 3rd in yards, 4th in YPA, and 5th in TDs. He's been close to excellent through four weeks, minus the one terrible INT at Cleveland

Shaka Shart

Quote from: BM1090 on September 29, 2025, 11:40:52 AMAfter last night Love has 1000 yards, 8 TD, 1 INT. He is 2nd in QB rating, 3rd in yards, 4th in YPA, and 5th in TDs. He's been close to excellent through four weeks, minus the one terrible INT at Cleveland

I was told you have one hour to celebrate a good performance vs Matt eberflus
#BanGBWarrior

JWags85

Quote from: BM1090 on September 29, 2025, 11:40:52 AMAfter last night Love has 1000 yards, 8 TD, 1 INT. He is 2nd in QB rating, 3rd in yards, 4th in YPA, and 5th in TDs. He's been close to excellent through four weeks, minus the one terrible INT at Cleveland

Its the nature of modern QB assessment (hell young offensive skill position player assessment), its insanely what have you done for me lately snap judgements.  Pains me to say it, but Love has been very good even with rough spots.  The TD throw to Doubs under pressure and backpedaling was filthy.

Same is true for some of the Williams criticism.  I saw a tweet yesterday that says 28 TDs to 8 Ints through 21 games is the best ever by a #1 pick.  So I went back and looked and his numbers compare REALLY favorably, if not better in some areas, to the starts for Burrow and Luck, much less someone like Trevor Lawrence or the very up and down start for Kyler Murray.  His attempts per game, YPA, completion percentage, etc.. are also not WILDLY different, so its not like they were chucking the ball in a way he hasn't.

Do I wish he was more consistent?  Absolutely.  Do I wish he didn't waste his first year of development under a lame duck inept HC with a terrible OL?  Absolutely.  But in perspective, his development and production has been above average, making the "lets give Bagent some snaps" commentary from the Lions game even more silly.

Same for Odunze, who is trending towards a 1000+ Yd/12+ TD season (even on a 16 game schedule) when people were calling him a bum with bad hands earlier in the year.

BM1090

Quote from: JWags85 on September 29, 2025, 12:45:37 PMIts the nature of modern QB assessment (hell young offensive skill position player assessment), its insanely what have you done for me lately snap judgements.  Pains me to say it, but Love has been very good even with rough spots.  The TD throw to Doubs under pressure and backpedaling was filthy.

Same is true for some of the Williams criticism.  I saw a tweet yesterday that says 28 TDs to 8 Ints through 21 games is the best ever by a #1 pick.  So I went back and looked and his numbers compare REALLY favorably, if not better in some areas, to the starts for Burrow and Luck, much less someone like Trevor Lawrence or the very up and down start for Kyler Murray.  His attempts per game, YPA, completion percentage, etc.. are also not WILDLY different, so its not like they were chucking the ball in a way he hasn't.

Do I wish he was more consistent?  Absolutely.  Do I wish he didn't waste his first year of development under a lame duck inept HC with a terrible OL?  Absolutely.  But in perspective, his development and production has been above average, making the "lets give Bagent some snaps" commentary from the Lions game even more silly.

Same for Odunze, who is trending towards a 1000+ Yd/12+ TD season (even on a 16 game schedule) when people were calling him a bum with bad hands earlier in the year.

Going to agree with you on Williams. As long as they find stability within the coaching staff and stick with it, I expect him to be the QB in Chicago for 10-15 years. You can see the talent. It's year two. He'll get more consistent.

It's the Bears so they may find a way to ruin it, but if they don't I think the future is pretty bright there.

Scoop Snoop

Quote from: BM1090 on September 28, 2025, 07:06:37 PMImpressed? No. But this is a team that you thought would win 4 games and said might be the worst in the league after the 0-2 start. They are 2-2 now and nowhere near the worst team in the NFL. I'm not even sure they are the worst team in the division.

Bottom line is you say a lot of shi!t that's an overreaction and you're going to get crap for it.

Muggsy simply is incapable of laughing at himself and admitting that he was wrong. As a result, he richly deserves all of the crap he gets.
Wild horses couldn't drag me into either political party, but for very different reasons.

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MU82

Wags, it surprises you that fanz iz stoopid?

I mean, in Charlotte, there were dopes saying Derek Anderson should start over Cam Newton. And that was during the Super Bowl season, when Newton was MVP.
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

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"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

Uncle Rico

Quote from: MU82 on September 29, 2025, 12:56:15 PMWags, it surprises you that fanz iz stoopid?

I mean, in Charlotte, there were dopes saying Derek Anderson should start over Cam Newton. And that was during the Super Bowl season, when Newton was MVP.

Bagent looks like a QB
Thus says the Lord of hosts: Render true judgments, show kindness and mercy to one another; do not oppress the widow, the orphan, the alien, or the poor; and do not devise evil in your hearts against one another.

MU82

Quote from: Uncle Rico on September 29, 2025, 01:03:01 PMBagent looks like a QB

I actually got in a discussion with a guy at a bar who said he liked Anderson better than Newton. I couldn't resist asking why, and he said: "Cam is too, um, colorful."

I am not making that up. It was a very brief discussion.
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

jesmu84

Quote from: JWags85 on September 29, 2025, 12:45:37 PMIts the nature of modern QB assessment (hell young offensive skill position player assessment), its insanely what have you done for me lately snap judgements.  Pains me to say it, but Love has been very good even with rough spots.  The TD throw to Doubs under pressure and backpedaling was filthy.

Same is true for some of the Williams criticism.  I saw a tweet yesterday that says 28 TDs to 8 Ints through 21 games is the best ever by a #1 pick.  So I went back and looked and his numbers compare REALLY favorably, if not better in some areas, to the starts for Burrow and Luck, much less someone like Trevor Lawrence or the very up and down start for Kyler Murray.  His attempts per game, YPA, completion percentage, etc.. are also not WILDLY different, so its not like they were chucking the ball in a way he hasn't.

Do I wish he was more consistent?  Absolutely.  Do I wish he didn't waste his first year of development under a lame duck inept HC with a terrible OL?  Absolutely.  But in perspective, his development and production has been above average, making the "lets give Bagent some snaps" commentary from the Lions game even more silly.

Same for Odunze, who is trending towards a 1000+ Yd/12+ TD season (even on a 16 game schedule) when people were calling him a bum with bad hands earlier in the year.

All I care about this season is progression of Caleb.

Outside of Byards INTs, the whole team looked rough in the first half yesterday. And that includes offensive play calling.

When it counted - 4th quarter, down 5, game on the line - Caleb played like a calm, seasoned pro.

That's what matters.

The blocked kick was nice though.

Uncle Rico

Quote from: MU82 on September 29, 2025, 01:10:03 PMI actually got in a discussion with a guy at a bar who said he liked Anderson better than Newton. I couldn't resist asking why, and he said: "Cam is too, um, colorful."

I am not making that up. It was a very brief discussion.

Caleb isn't Bears QB material
Thus says the Lord of hosts: Render true judgments, show kindness and mercy to one another; do not oppress the widow, the orphan, the alien, or the poor; and do not devise evil in your hearts against one another.

tower912

A GB tie is as good as a loss for Detroit fans.
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

WhiteTrash

Quote from: tower912 on September 29, 2025, 01:57:13 PMA GB tie is as good as a loss for Detroit fans.
Since I don't think its a big reach to say the division is between GB and DET, I agree with you.

MU82

My favorite story from the NFL weekend was Jags coach Liam Coen going all Will Smith on Niners defensive coordinator Robert Saleh after the Jags' win.

Days before the game, Saleh had accused Coen of "legally stealing signals." Afterward, Coen confronted Saleh with: "Keep my name out of your mouth." The two then traded more insults, with Saleh reportedly threatening to kill Coen.

https://www.sfgate.com/49ers/article/49ers-coach-threatens-jaguars-coach-end-your-life-21073272.php

As if the Niners don't have enough problems, with boatloads of injuries and a turnover-prone QB

Oh, and if Saleh doesn't want signals "stolen," maybe he needs to do a better job of choosing signals that won't be stolen.
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"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

RJax55

Quote from: MU82 on September 29, 2025, 02:57:55 PMMy favorite story from the NFL weekend was Jags coach Liam Coen going all Will Smith on Niners defensive coordinator Robert Saleh after the Jags' win.

Days before the game, Saleh had accused Coen of "legally stealing signals." Afterward, Coen confronted Saleh with: "Keep my name out of your mouth." The two then traded more insults, with Saleh reportedly threatening to kill Coen.

https://www.sfgate.com/49ers/article/49ers-coach-threatens-jaguars-coach-end-your-life-21073272.php

As if the Niners don't have enough problems, with boatloads of injuries and a turnover-prone QB

Oh, and if Saleh doesn't want signals "stolen," maybe he needs to do a better job of choosing signals that won't be stolen.

Interesting take. When did Saleh say that?

From his comments on Thursday, Saleh was giving credit to Coen for his ability to decipher signals. It was Coen who took this the wrong way.

Shaka Shart

Quote from: MU82 on September 29, 2025, 01:10:03 PMI actually got in a discussion with a guy at a bar who said he liked Anderson better than Newton. I couldn't resist asking why, and he said: "Cam is too, um, colorful."

I am not making that up. It was a very brief discussion.

Caleb paints his nails 😡
#BanGBWarrior

Shaka Shart

Quote from: Uncle Rico on September 29, 2025, 01:43:29 PMCaleb isn't Bears QB material

Calm and collected leading a team to a road come from behind victory is an insult to the giant ugly patch on the jersey and our memories of her reign.
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tower912

Quote from: Uncle Rico on September 29, 2025, 01:43:29 PMCaleb isn't Bears QB material
Who is the greatest QB in Bears history?
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

Shaka Shart

Quote from: tower912 on September 29, 2025, 03:54:10 PMWho is the greatest QB in Bears history?

Tyson Bagent if Ben Johnson has the courage to do what's right
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Uncle Rico

Quote from: tower912 on September 29, 2025, 03:54:10 PMWho is the greatest QB in Bears history?

That answer is easy.  Jim Miller
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The Sultan

Quote from: tower912 on September 29, 2025, 03:54:10 PMWho is the greatest QB in Bears history?

In all seriousness, it's Sid Luckman - who retired in 1950. I think he is the only Bear to primarily play quarterback in the Hall of Fame, unless there is a guy who played mostly elsewhere who I am not remembering.
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RJax55

Quote from: The Sultan on September 29, 2025, 04:05:54 PMIn all seriousness, it's Sid Luckman - who retired in 1950. I think he is the only Bear to primarily play quarterback in the Hall of Fame, unless there is a guy who played mostly elsewhere who I am not remembering.

You are.... Modern day legend Bobby Layne!

jesmu84

Quote from: tower912 on September 29, 2025, 03:54:10 PMWho is the greatest QB in Bears history?

Sid.

In modern NFL? Cutler

The Sultan

Quote from: RJax55 on September 29, 2025, 04:08:09 PMYou are.... Modern day legend Bobby Layne!

LOL, I had no idea he started his career, and played one season, with the Bears.
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