MU culture

[tower912]

You're missing the forest for the trees.  Marquette is LUCKY to have someone like Shaka.  He likes it here, he is a phenomenal person, and has the team winning.  A lot of people around here don't have any clue what it is like to go from what we have now to what a lot of teams are looking at. 

Who do you think we can replace him with?  Realistically.  Why would they be a better fit?

Shaka is 75-29 since he got here.  72% win rate. 

Some of you guys are absolutely stupid and should go root for Auburn or something... oh wait, Bruce Pearl has a lifetime win rate at Auburn of 65%.  Or maybe Nate Oates... ope, he has a 71% win rate at Alabama.

Basically, stop being idiots.

Preach

[Billy Hoyle]

I love the guy and want him here for a long time, but there really is no such thing as "lifetime contracts." There are always buyouts or rollovers to protect both parties.

we handed Buzz what was basically a "lifetime contract" and not only did he nearly tank the program he bailed for a crap program with little recourse for MU.

[Hards Alumni]

we handed Buzz what was basically a "lifetime contract" and not only did he nearly tank the program he bailed for a crap program with little recourse for MU.

I think a lot was learned from the Buzz experience

[StillWarriors]

And regardless, it just isn't in me to hate on MU players.  There have been players at MU that I never warmed to.  But I don't tear them down, as I never know when a player is going to change my mind through their growth and development.

To me, watching players grow as players and people over the four years is among the very best parts of college sports, and particularly basketball. I feel fortunate as an MU fan that we still are experiencing that to this point. Complete roster overhaul year after year would just not be the same. I'd still cheer for the jersey, but would not be as invested in the players individually. It has been a pleasure watching Stevie, Kam and Jop on and off the floor over these four years and to see Marquette become part of them as much as they have become faces of Marquette and represented the University well.

Yes, on court stuff can get frustrating at times, but that is sports. I'll take what MU has going right now over just about anywhere else, and I do take pride as an alum in what Shaka and the team are doing.

[tower912]

You're missing the forest for the trees.  Marquette is LUCKY to have someone like Shaka.  He likes it here, he is a phenomenal person, and has the team winning.  A lot of people around here don't have any clue what it is like to go from what we have now to what a lot of teams are looking at. 

Who do you think we can replace him with?  Realistically.  Why would they be a better fit?

Shaka is 75-29 since he got here.  72% win rate. 

Some of you guys are absolutely stupid and should go root for Auburn or something... oh wait, Bruce Pearl has a lifetime win rate at Auburn of 65%.  Or maybe Nate Oates... ope, he has a 71% win rate at Alabama.

Basically, stop being idiots.

A nit to pick.   Shaka is 94-36 at MU.  Still a 72% win rate.

[GoldenEagles03]

A nit to pick.   Shaka is 94-36 at MU.  Still a 72% win rate.

6 wins away from 100 you say? Not only for Shaka, but the Senior class.

That would be a cool milestone.

[wadesworld]

I think we saw how Shaka would handle an unexpected transfer out when OMax remained in the Draft.  I think it was somewhat expected that he'd be back for one more year, but he blew up at the Combine and had a first round grade, so he stayed in.  Shaka trusted Jop's development and we ended up with a 2 seed and went one round further than that previous season.

Every situation is different, though.  Shaka is a good enough coach and has a good enough read on his teams that I think he'll know when he needs to go out and find a solution to an unexpected departure, and when he has the solution already on the roster.

[Hards Alumni]

A nit to pick.  Shaka is 94-36 at MU.  Still a 72% win rate.

Gross, I went from what Google told me in their AI search.  Mea Culpa.  I won't be doing that again.

[tower912]

The corollary is that Shaka had a .559 winning percentage and was under .500 in conference while at Texas.  Very similar numbers to what Wojo had at MU.  So, what is he doing at MU that is leading to more success?
Culture?  Easier conference?  Bad fit? Thoughts?

[BM1090]

The corollary is that Shaka had a .559 winning percentage and was under .500 in conference while at Texas.  Very similar numbers to what Wojo had at MU.  So, what is he doing at MU that is leading to more success?
Culture?  Easier conference?  Bad fit? Thoughts?

All of the above. I think he learned from his experiences what works for him and what doesn't. He asked for help in areas he struggled. He grew as a coach.

[tower912]

Whoawhoawhoawhoa.  Growth?  Improved relationships?   Harumph.

[Johnny B]

You're missing the forest for the trees.  Marquette is LUCKY to have someone like Shaka.  He likes it here, he is a phenomenal person, and has the team winning.  A lot of people around here don't have any clue what it is like to go from what we have now to what a lot of teams are looking at. 

Who do you think we can replace him with?  Realistically.  Why would they be a better fit?

Shaka is 75-29 since he got here.  72% win rate. 

Some of you guys are absolutely stupid and should go root for Auburn or something... oh wait, Bruce Pearl has a lifetime win rate at Auburn of 65%.  Or maybe Nate Oates... ope, he has a 71% win rate at Alabama.

Basically, stop being idiots.

I don't want to replace him. He's been great. I'm just not necessarily ready
To fully commit to him being the "forever" coach.its a tad early to me. Alright buddy chill :0

[Jay Bee]

Let's see how good a coach he is next year.  Team has no interior scorers and not sure they have any guards that can create there own shots.

But will their grammar be ok?

[Hards Alumni]

I don't want to replace him. He's been great. I'm just not necessarily ready
To fully commit to him being the "forever" coach.its a tad early to me. Alright buddy chill :0

It's fine.  There is no such thing as a forever coach anyway. 

[muwarrior69]

I think a lot was learned from the Buzz experience

...and I think Shaka learned a lot from the Texas experience.

[Vander Blue Man Group]

I love the guy and want him here for a long time, but there really is no such thing as "lifetime contracts." There are always buyouts or rollovers to protect both parties.

Sure and I didn't mean in that literal of a sense.  Moreso that Marquette should want to keep Shaka as long as possible (which is hopefully the reset of his career) and do what is necessary to make that happen, which I'm confident they will. 

[Vander Blue Man Group]

If Chase didn't leave this year, he won't be going anywhere next year where he is going to be "The Guy" in a top conference.  Same with Ben.

Yep, I'd be shocked if Chase is not back.  Proof of concept with Kam coming back for his senior season and how that's gone. 

[WellsstreetWanderer]

IMHO Shaka and MU are a perfect fit plus what he is accomplishing is a pleasure to watch

[MU82]

Agree with Sultan and others saying there really aren't "lifetime contracts" ... but weirdly, Shaka already kinda has one.

He will keep getting extensions as long as he wants to be at Marquette and as long as the program is deemed successful; if the program starts to wane and he's still under contract, he could be bought out, just as his predecessor was. And, as is the case with all "lifetime" contracts, he will be free to go anytime he wants as long as he or his new employer pays the buyout.

And echoing Hards ... some folks have to stop being idiots.

There's a reason Shaka's name comes up every time any program of note has an opening. He's great, and just about any university would love to have him as its basketball coach. That we have him at Marquette ... how effen lucky can we be?

[Biggie Clausen]

You're missing the forest for the trees.  Marquette is LUCKY to have someone like Shaka.  He likes it here, he is a phenomenal person, and has the team winning.  A lot of people around here don't have any clue what it is like to go from what we have now to what a lot of teams are looking at. 

Who do you think we can replace him with?  Realistically.  Why would they be a better fit?

Shaka is 75-29 since he got here.  72% win rate. 

Some of you guys are absolutely stupid and should go root for Auburn or something... oh wait, Bruce Pearl has a lifetime win rate at Auburn of 65%.  Or maybe Nate Oates... ope, he has a 71% win rate at Alabama.

Basically, stop being idiots.

I think Shaka has done a great job and is one of the top coaches in the country, but the "Who are you gonna replace him with?" argument isn't a good one, IMO.  It's exactly the same thing people said about Wojo to defend keeping him around.  And ultimately, there were only a few thousand or so coaches who would've been able to do a better job than Wojo.

[GoldenEagles03]

I think Shaka has done a great job and is one of the top coaches in the country, but the "Who are you gonna replace him with?" argument isn't a good one, IMO.  It's exactly the same thing people said about Wojo to defend keeping him around.  And ultimately, there were only a few thousand or so coaches who would've been able to do a better job than Wojo.

If he's one of the top coaches in the country though, then there are not 1000 coaches that could come in and do better and the Wojo comparison is thrown out the window.

[Viper]

I'm fine with Shaka, but I'm not in depression if he left for a deal he felt was better for him. I want people to be all-in in their current situation. And I do feel Shaka is all-in, btw. Though I'm not sold on his recruiting just yet, Shaka's player retention is certainly impressive. Imagine this team if Kam had gone pro or Stevie decided to play a final year elsewhere? Similar to Wojo, Shaka represents MU at a high level and I'm 100% certain he has the best interest of his players at heart. If Shaka did part ways with MU, I like Nate Oates. F4 last year, and might be better this year...in the best conference college basketball has seen since the early days of the Big East. I also like TJ Otzelberger, a lot. What he's done in Ames, IA amazes me. He of the too small polo shirts took over dung and has had a F4 caliber team each of the past two seasons. Not saying either would be interested in Milwaukee...both are cheeseheads, btw... and TJ played college ball at UW-Whitewater, but those are two names at the top of my list if MU was in need of a new coach.

[The Sultan]

Marquette's not in need of a new coach. This is just grass is greener thinking. And it's dumb.

[MuMark]

I'm fine with Shaka, but I'm not in depression if he left for a deal he felt was better for him. I want people to be all-in in their current situation. And I do feel Shaka is all-in, btw. Though I'm not sold on his recruiting just yet, Shaka's player retention is certainly impressive. Imagine this team if Kam had gone pro or Stevie decided to play a final year elsewhere? Similar to Wojo, Shaka represents MU at a high level and I'm 100% certain he has the best interest of his players at heart. If Shaka did part ways with MU, I like Nate Oates. F4 last year, and might be better this year...in the best conference college basketball has seen since the early days of the Big East. I also like TJ Otzelberger, a lot. What he's done in Ames, IA amazes me. He of the too small polo shirts took over dung and has had a F4 caliber team each of the past two seasons. Not saying either would be interested in Milwaukee...both are cheeseheads, btw... and TJ played college ball at UW-Whitewater, but those are two names at the top of my list if MU was in need of a new coach.

Neither of those coaches is leaving their current job for MU.

MU is a good job.......just like about 20-30 other schools are good jobs.

You want a new coach if Shaka would leave?.......look at mid majors......college assistants.....and high majors that need a change of scenery.

That's how it works now. Just ask Michigan, Louisville, Ohio State and Kentucky......

[MU82]

I think Shaka has done a great job and is one of the top coaches in the country, but the "Who are you gonna replace him with?" argument isn't a good one, IMO.  It's exactly the same thing people said about Wojo to defend keeping him around.  And ultimately, there were only a few thousand or so coaches who would've been able to do a better job than Wojo.

The situations aren't even remotely similar.