MU culture

[Its DJOver]

Folks continue to incorrectly equate not landing a transfer with not pursuing a transfer. I get the sense that Shaka will pursue every option as long as their is a scholarship open. However, given the differences in culture here compared to most other places, it makes sense that fewer transfers have been landed.

[tower912]

Based on Shaka's own words...
They have to fit and buy in to the culture.
They have to be better than what MU already has.
Have to be willing to come without a bag drop.
Why should he want somebody who averages 17 points in the Mountain West just looking for a payday?

[Billy Hoyle]

Watch some of the #mubb offseason videos.

you missed the joke

https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/ncaab/horizon/2013/04/30/wisconsin-green-bay-brian-wardle-abuse-allegations-ryan-bross/2123569/

[wadesworld]

I'm ready to put the "no incoming transfers in 3 years" narrative to rest. It's not inherently a good thing or a bad thing to not take transfers.

Why is the cutoff 3 years anyway? Oh right, it's because we took 2 transfers 4 years ago who ended up being drafted and played major roles in 2 of the best regular seasons in the last 50 years. One of them is near or at "MU legend" status.

It's just kind of lame to keep gloating about. It doesn't result in any more wins, other teams have great cultures with many transfers, and it's also not entirely representative of what has made MU so successful in Shaka's tenure. Just my thought on it, anyway.

There have been multiple recruits that have mentioned Marquette not taking transfers and not having transfers out that is attractive to them about MU.  And we've also discussed how Marquette's continuity may help them early in the year while a team full of transfers and freshman are still figuring out how to play together.  So it actually might result in more wins.

[Billy Hoyle]

Based on Shaka's own words...
They have to fit and buy in to the culture.
They have to be better than what MU already has.
Have to be willing to come without a bag drop.
Why should he want somebody who averages 17 points in the Mountain West just looking for a payday?

Shaka mentioned in an interview last season they had a list of at least four guys in the Portal and when they demanded money to come to MU Shaka basically said "if you come here you can earn NIL like our guys have" that was the end of the conversations. So it isn't like Shaka is refusing to take transfers, he's just not willing to cause possible dissension in the locker room.

[Scoop Snoop]

There have been multiple recruits that have mentioned Marquette not taking transfers and not having transfers out that is attractive to them about MU.  And we've also discussed how Marquette's continuity may help them early in the year while a team full of transfers and freshman are still figuring out how to play together.  So it actually might result in more wins.

This. Very nicely laid out Wades. The "Just one transfer please. We need a (fill in the blank)..." argument ignores that Shaka's M.O. is based upon trying to build the team the way he has. He may have to go to the portal at some point but seems determined to avoid it as long as possible.

[Jay Bee]

It's become apparent that the only reason Shaka took in some transfers in his first season was to fill gaping holes in the roster that he inherited.  It really was his only option at that point. 

#FakeNews #Lies

[Jables1604]

Hopefully our fan base can show as much character and toughness as our team, when we have a down stretch or season under Shaka. The recent complaining by some about some
of our players/Shaka has been disappointing.

The irony of this statement coming from you is staggering.

#youhadzeroimpactonWojogettingcanned

[MU82]

I am proud of the program that Shaka has built and the way he's built it. But I'll be honest (as always): I'd also be proud if he built a successful program using the existing rules to bring in transfers.

There are many ways to win. How Shaka is doing it so far is unique, and that's cool.

I like that our players have great relationships with each other and the coaches, and that they believe Marquette has been a special place to be.

[GoldenEagles03]

Pretty damn good stuff from Crean here.

https://x.com/MarquetteMBB/status/1889458935712849956?t=lw2WqCCH4jrEWTUpmwzd6g&s=19

[tower912]

Crean used transfers and JuCos, so did Buzz.  Wojo used grad transfers.  Shaka used transfers his first season.  Hurley has used the portal.  Jay Wright was home grown and developed.  The SEC went big on transfers and guys using their COVID years.
  The contrarian in me likes MU going against the grain.

[tower912]

Pretty damn good stuff from Crean here.

https://x.com/MarquetteMBB/status/1889458935712849956?t=lw2WqCCH4jrEWTUpmwzd6g&s=19

Obvious conflict of interest.

[Billy Hoyle]

Crean used transfers and JuCos, so did Buzz.  Wojo used grad transfers.  Shaka used transfers his first season.  Hurley has used the portal.  Jay Wright was home grown and developed.  The SEC went big on transfers and guys using their COVID years.
  The contrarian in me likes MU going against the grain.

Crean kind of used JUCOs. He had three in Jackson, Kinsella and Lott. Kinsella was a 4-2-4 who started out at Rice. The administration wouldn't let him bring in another 2-4 until MJax graduated. The only other transfers I can remember under Crean were RJax and Fitz. It was a different era - the grad transfer exception had just come into play and players still had to sit a year.

[tower912]

Tsk tsk, tsk.  Somehow forgetting the legendary Trend Blackledge.  After missing out on his JUCO teammate

[swoopem]

Crean kind of used JUCOs. He had three in Jackson, Kinsella and Lott. Kinsella was a 4-2-4 who started out at Rice. The administration wouldn't let him bring in another 2-4 until MJax graduated. The only other transfers I can remember under Crean were RJax and Fitz. It was a different era - the grad transfer exception had just come into play and players still had to sit a year.

Mo Aker transferred to MU under Crean

[Big Papi]

Pretty damn good stuff from Crean here.

https://x.com/MarquetteMBB/status/1889458935712849956?t=lw2WqCCH4jrEWTUpmwzd6g&s=19

Great stuff from Coach Crean.  Had me pumped up to grab some rebounds.  I get the dislike for him by the way he just left us, and his coaching/recruiting wasn't perfect, but he was the right coach at the right time, and I will always applaud him for what he did for us.

[Its DJOver]

Great stuff from Coach Crean.  Had me pumped up to grab some rebounds.  I get the dislike for him by the way he just left us, and his coaching/recruiting wasn't perfect, but he was the right coach at the right time, and I will always applaud him for what he did for us.

Yea, based on the reception he got last night during the game, it would seem that most of the fanbase (in attendance) has this opinion. We've come a long way from him being boo'd every game during "Titan Spirit".

[Big Papi]

Based on Shaka's own words...
They have to fit and buy in to the culture.
They have to be better than what MU already has.
Have to be willing to come without a bag drop.
Why should he want somebody who averages 17 points in the Mountain West just looking for a payday?

Feels like he is looking for a unicorn and only then will he take in a transfer.  I am fine with us not taking a transfer 95% of the time but I think the ceiling of this program would be higher if he honestly looks at his roster from year to year and goes and get someone who will help his team out when needed.  I think his current philosophy will have our on court success be more up and down than most will like.

[tower912]

Well said.  He sold MU hard.  Not a perfect coach.  Zones and recruiting bigs come to mind.  He took MU to a final 4.  I am grateful for that.  He has made peace with MU and the powers that be have made peace with him. 
Long past time to let go and move on.

[tower912]

Feels like he is looking for a unicorn and only then will he take in a transfer.  I am fine with us not taking a transfer 95% of the time but I think the ceiling of this program would be higher if he honestly looks at his roster from year to year and goes and get someone who will help his team out when needed.  I think his current philosophy will have our on court success be more up and down than most will like.

His current philosophy is definitely old school.  What programs used to strive for.  What drove MU fans crazy about Wisconsin during the Bo years.

14 scholarships accounted for for next season.  Math says that unless there are departures, Shaka will once again only take a unicorn.  Or, as history indictates, an under the radar, unheralded, freshman big.

[CTWarrior]

I enjoyed the article, thanks for posting.

I don't know that it is good or bad to have no transfers in/out, or if it is particularly virtuous. 

But, as a fan, I really like watching the players develop over their four years and the feeling that all the players are "our guys" and not hired guns.  I look forward to seeing what the underclassmen will become and it is nice to know that most likely I'll get to watch them here.

One of the worst things in the world for any sports fan is to see their favorite players wear another team's uniform on the same level.  (I'm still not over Mookie Betts)

[Big Papi]

I enjoyed the article, thanks for posting.

I don't know that it is good or bad to have no transfers in/out, or if it is particularly virtuous. 

But, as a fan, I really like watching the players develop over their four years and the feeling that all the players are "our guys" and not hired guns.  I look forward to seeing what the underclassmen will become and it is nice to know that most likely I'll get to watch them here.

One of the worst things in the world for any sports fan is to see their favorite players wear another team's uniform on the same level.  (I'm still not over Mookie Betts)

Great point.   

[tower912]

I enjoyed the article, thanks for posting.

I don't know that it is good or bad to have no transfers in/out, or if it is particularly virtuous. 

But, as a fan, I really like watching the players develop over their four years and the feeling that all the players are "our guys" and not hired guns.  I look forward to seeing what the underclassmen will become and it is nice to know that most likely I'll get to watch them here.

One of the worst things in the world for any sports fan is to see their favorite players wear another team's uniform on the same level.  (I'm still not over Mookie Betts)

I kind of enjoyed watching Izzo scream at Joey over and over again.  Then I got over it and moved on.

[Elonsmusk]

The irony of this statement coming from you is staggering.

#youhadzeroimpactonWojogettingcanned

Not really.  If you can't distinguish the difference between how Shaka operates as a leader and coach, and Wojo, your lack of common sense is staggering. My patience with Shaka will be 20x what it was for Wojo, as one is brilliant, and the other - an air punching meathead. 

[Uncle Rico]

I kind of enjoyed watching Izzo scream at Joey over and over again.  Then I got over it and moved on.

Izzo has lost 3 of 4.  Patented Spartan fade engaged