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tower912

Just saw that Mazda is coming out with a 35th anniversary, special edition Miata.   It got me thinking.  What cars from the 80's and 90's would you like to have as a toy/project?  Something to put braces on your mechanic's kids.

Saab 900 convertible.
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

Uncle Rico

Quote from: tower912 on January 25, 2025, 10:10:21 AMJust saw that Mazda is coming out with a 35th anniversary, special edition Miata.  It got me thinking.  What cars from the 80's and 90's would you like to have as a toy/project?  Something to put braces on your mechanic's kids.

Saab 900 convertible.

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Scoop Snoop

Wild horses couldn't drag me into either political party, but for very different reasons.

"All of our answers are unencumbered by the thought process." NPR's Click and Clack of Car Talk.

Jockey

Just sold about a dozen cars over the last 4 years including a '36 Chevy, a '49 Cadillac and a '57 Ford. And the most valuable one? A '74 Honda.

Big, heavy, clumsy and pretty ugly compared to today's cars. Except for the Honda.


Uncle Rico

Quote from: Jockey on January 25, 2025, 10:26:55 AMJust sold about a dozen cars over the last 4 years including a '36 Chevy, a '49 Cadillac and a '57 Ford. And the most valuable one? A '74 Honda.

Big, heavy, clumsy and pretty ugly compared to today's cars. Except for the Honda.



I do want an AMC Eagle.  Was my first car but the one I had was haunted.  That's a fact, so it wasn't very reliable but kind of the first crossover
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Shaka Shart

1969 GTO

More recent early 2000s BMW M3s
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Re: Who's Buzz in Memphis for?

February 17th, 2012

Jockey

Quote from: Shaka Shart on January 25, 2025, 11:35:18 AM1969 GTO

More recent early 2000s BMW M3s

That was a sweet car.

warriorchick

#7
I have a lipstick-red 2007 Miata that has 30K miles on it.

The valets in Las Vegas love it, and often park it up front with the expensive cars.  They know that any d-bag with a lot of money can buy a new Maserati, but they know it takes effort to keep a 20-year-old car in great condition in a hot dry place like Nevada.
Have some patience, FFS.

MU Fan in Connecticut

The 1974 Plymouth Scamp I inherited from my grandmother.  When the windows rolled down it was wide open on the side as there was no bar between front and back.

It finally just rusted out on the bottom.

JWags85

Quote from: Shaka Shart on January 25, 2025, 11:35:18 AMMore recent early 2000s BMW M3s

That was what I thought of too, wasn't sure if it was old enough to qualify  ;D BMW has made a lot of pretty cars, but the grill/front end on that car just speaks to me.

Quote from: Jockey on January 25, 2025, 10:26:55 AMBig, heavy, clumsy and pretty ugly compared to today's cars. Except for the Honda.


I'm always kind of perplexed when people have these older cars as daily/regular drivers. I have a friend who has a 60/70s Bronco in good condition that he drives almost every day in the spring/summer. I have a business friend who has a 80s Waggoner that is similar.  The seats aren't comfortable, they don't drive smooth, and definitely clunky.  It's a markedly worse experience than even a mid range newer SUV.

I get collecting for nostalgia or additional cars for a fun drive.  Not my taste but I get why people love/keep old muscle cars. But not for everyday unless you've completely redone the interior.

Amusingly, family friend has an IMMACULATE early 80s 911, low mileage, that is worth probably around the price of a starter house.  He also has a pretty basic lower end few year old Cayman.  Ask him which is the nicer, more pleasant drive, he'd take the Cayman every time. Technology and modern car manufacturing is an amazing thing

Captain Quette

I had a Toyota supra at Marquette, white, May still be my favorite. Loved the 560 sec Benz. And old school is the 1967 Ford mustang Shelby fast back. Probably my lottery win car.

Scoop Snoop

I have always loved the styling of the Karman Ghia. There is one locally that is probably available if anyone here wants one in pretty good condition. DM me if that is what you really want and I'll give you contact info.
Wild horses couldn't drag me into either political party, but for very different reasons.

"All of our answers are unencumbered by the thought process." NPR's Click and Clack of Car Talk.

Jay Bee

Zero rings, but lotsa banners, Baldy.

MU82

I don't know that it was my "favorite," but in 1993, I bought a 1981 Honda Civic for $350.

My kids called it The Chariot, and it was amazingly clean inside, but it was so rusty that my wife wouldn't let the kids ride in it.

I ended up selling it after four months for $400. I hadn't put a penny into it, so I basically was paid $50 to drive it for four months.
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MU1in77

65 Mustang convertible

Jockey

Quote from: JWags85 on January 25, 2025, 01:30:05 PMI'm always kind of perplexed when people have these older cars as daily/regular drivers. I have a friend who has a 60/70s Bronco in good condition that he drives almost every day in the spring/summer. I have a business friend who has a 80s Waggoner that is similar.  The seats aren't comfortable, they don't drive smooth, and definitely clunky.  It's a markedly worse experience than even a mid range newer SUV.


That's why we sold them all. They were cars my FiL collected randomly over the years. 16 or 17 of them including an old motor home and a couple bikes. No one in the family wanted to take them to either fix or drive. The '49 caddy was especially a monster, absolutely huge. The exceptions were a '67 Mustang and a 24 Model T that was kind of like an heirloom.

the funny thing is that people would try really hard to bargain over the price of the vehicle, but had no qualms over getting it shipped to them. We had a showroom floor '82 Ford Escort with 65 miles on it. When the truck came for it, it was loaded with all $100,000+ cars (the Escort sold for $9K).

Shaka Shart

Quote from: JWags85 on January 25, 2025, 01:30:05 PMThat was what I thought of too, wasn't sure if it was old enough to qualify  ;D BMW has made a lot of pretty cars, but the grill/front end on that car just speaks to me.

I'm always kind of perplexed when people have these older cars as daily/regular drivers. I have a friend who has a 60/70s Bronco in good condition that he drives almost every day in the spring/summer. I have a business friend who has a 80s Waggoner that is similar.  The seats aren't comfortable, they don't drive smooth, and definitely clunky.  It's a markedly worse experience than even a mid range newer SUV.

I get collecting for nostalgia or additional cars for a fun drive.  Not my taste but I get why people love/keep old muscle cars. But not for everyday unless you've completely redone the interior.

Amusingly, family friend has an IMMACULATE early 80s 911, low mileage, that is worth probably around the price of a starter house.  He also has a pretty basic lower end few year old Cayman.  Ask him which is the nicer, more pleasant drive, he'd take the Cayman every time. Technology and modern car manufacturing is an amazing thing

In terms of cars that are perfect from front to back, inside and out. The M3's longevity being like this is insane on how good it is. I don't like the way new BMWs look but even then they are still way better looking than the standard models.

It's also why their value doesn't drop.

The 90s 911s come to mind as well
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Re: Who's Buzz in Memphis for?

February 17th, 2012

MuggsyB

My uncle has a 1969 Karmann Ghia convertible.  I'm not a car person but it is a pretty cool ride. 

pbiflyer

Quote from: tower912 on January 25, 2025, 10:10:21 AMJust saw that Mazda is coming out with a 35th anniversary, special edition Miata.   It got me thinking.  What cars from the 80's and 90's would you like to have as a toy/project?  Something to put braces on your mechanic's kids.

Saab 900 convertible.
My 19 yo son has a 90 Miata.

21Jumpstreet

Quote from: tower912 on January 25, 2025, 10:10:21 AMJust saw that Mazda is coming out with a 35th anniversary, special edition Miata.   It got me thinking.  What cars from the 80's and 90's would you like to have as a toy/project?  Something to put braces on your mechanic's kids.

Saab 900 convertible.

Good memory, my grandfather only drove  Saab 900s when I was growing up.

Late 80s Porsche 911 Carrera with the big ole whale tail

NCMUFan

Being made in Kenosha myself, I am partial to a 1969 AMX or Javelin with a big skunk stripe down the middle.

StillAWarrior

Quote from: Shaka Shart on January 25, 2025, 11:35:18 AM1969 GTO

Quote from: MU1in77 on January 25, 2025, 05:53:07 PM65 Mustang convertible

I suspect that there is a reason that the OP was asking about cars from the 80s and 90s. That substantially increases the level of difficulty. Anyone can come up with a car from the 60s that they love, but from the 80s and 90s? That's a lot tougher.

If I had to pick one, I guess I could agree with some of those who have answered the Saab 900. My dad had one of those ('83, I think) and I really liked driving it.
Never wrestle with a pig.  You both get dirty, and the pig likes it.

BrewCity83

The first versions of the BMW Z-3 was pretty cool, came out in the late '90's; had a removable hardtop and/or a ragtop, really sporty drive, great handling and pickup.
The shaka sign, sometimes known as "hang loose", is a gesture of friendly intent often associated with Hawaii and surf culture.

tower912

Quote from: StillAWarrior on January 27, 2025, 08:32:07 AMI suspect that there is a reason that the OP was asking about cars from the 80s and 90s. That substantially increases the level of difficulty. Anyone can come up with a car from the 60s that they love, but from the 80s and 90s? That's a lot tougher.

If I had to pick one, I guess I could agree with some of those who have answered the Saab 900. My dad had one of those ('83, I think) and I really liked driving it.
I was referencing the the time frame of the first Miata, so, yes. 

Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

muwarrior69

My wife drove an '89 Buick Regal v6. Finally died after 180000 miles.
Nice little coupe. With my Dad's GM discount, we got it new for under 8k.

tower912

Honda Civic del sol.
WRX Hatchback

Just for laughs, Dodge Omni GLH.
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

Scoop Snoop

#26
Quote from: tower912 on January 27, 2025, 09:01:47 AMI was referencing the the time frame of the first Miata, so, yes. 



The Miata's design was a breath of fresh air. Many American cars were so boring, and the 80's is when GM pretty much committed suicide by coming out with models indistinguishable from each other. Chevy, Pontiac, Buick and Oldsmobiles were all the same vehicle at a certain price point, with the name tags being the only difference. Manufacturing efficiency reigned supreme, but Marketing was nowhere to be seen.

Like muwarriors69, my father worked for GM-Electromotive Division- and we got a nice discount. No Fords or Chryslers in our garage. Over time my siblings and I left the GM fold and bought Japanese cars. I recently sold my 2003 Highlander that we kept around for a backup vehicle. It had 290.000 miles on it. The engine was never opened up, the trans was original but damn it! It was leaking oil.
Wild horses couldn't drag me into either political party, but for very different reasons.

"All of our answers are unencumbered by the thought process." NPR's Click and Clack of Car Talk.

Shaka Shart

Late 90s corvette is delightfully insane
" Ya gotta take the Scout board with a grain of salt. They fly off the handle too much. Besides you won't get banned over here for sayin', Crean farts in the bathtub." - 4everwarriors

Re: Who's Buzz in Memphis for?

February 17th, 2012

JWags85

Quote from: Shaka Shart on January 27, 2025, 02:39:55 PMLate 90s corvette is delightfully insane

I'm no big fan of Corvettes (save for 70s Stingrays), but I do appreciate the 90s styling before they started aggressively biting off Ferrari aesthetics IMO, especially the C7 and C8 generations

BrewCity83

#29
Quote from: JWags85 on January 27, 2025, 03:16:09 PMI'm no big fan of Corvettes (save for 70s Stingrays), but I do appreciate the 90s styling before they started aggressively biting off Ferrari aesthetics IMO, especially the C7 and C8 generations

The 1963 Corvette split-window coupe is the coolest American car ever made.

https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/ibimg/hgm/1920x1080-1/100/847/1963-chevrolet-corvette-split-window-coupe-photo-via-mecum-auctions_100847503.jpg
The shaka sign, sometimes known as "hang loose", is a gesture of friendly intent often associated with Hawaii and surf culture.

Chili

But I like to throw handfuls...

18thandWells

Miata Is Always The Answer.

MU82

I loved the car Speed Racer drove.
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

Hards Alumni

#33
Quote from: tower912 on January 27, 2025, 09:19:54 AMHonda Civic del sol.
WRX Hatchback

Just for laughs, Dodge Omni GLH.

I know someone with a turbo Omni... it is brown.  Fastest turd you've ever seen!

Anyway, I'm choosing a 1988 Mazda RX-7 Turbo... since we are limited by 80s and 90s cars.

Otherwise, I'm a big fan of 1970 Chevelle SS 454s, and the above listed 78 Datsun 280z.

Scoop Snoop

#34
Quote from: Chili on January 27, 2025, 04:07:14 PM'78 Datsun 280z



My wife had one of these when we first met. My family accused me of marrying her for her car. It was silver and a ton of fun to drive, especially with the T top inserts removed.
Wild horses couldn't drag me into either political party, but for very different reasons.

"All of our answers are unencumbered by the thought process." NPR's Click and Clack of Car Talk.

StillAWarrior

My dad brought home a band-aid colored Monza 2+2 at one point in the late 70s. My goodness that car was an ugly POS. Definitively, not a favorite old car.
Never wrestle with a pig.  You both get dirty, and the pig likes it.

Scoop Snoop

Quote from: StillAWarrior on January 29, 2025, 03:41:33 PMMy dad brought home a band-aid colored Monza 2+2 at one point in the late 70s. My goodness that car was an ugly POS. Definitively, not a favorite old car.

Are you thinking what I'm thinking? Enough about favorite cars. Let's hijack this thread and talk about POS cars. Thread hijacking is a time-honored scoop tradition.

My stepdaughter had a mid 80's VW Cabriolet and asked my wife and I to drive it occasionally while she was in San Francisco for an extended period of time. The idea was to not let it sit for too long. So, the first time we drove it was on a long trip from Richmond to Virginia Beach and I was behind the wheel. I absolutely HATED that car! Worst POS I ever drove. The handling was just awful, and the engine performance was also bad. Also, it was butt ugly. I insisted that my wife drive that POS on our return to Richmond.
Wild horses couldn't drag me into either political party, but for very different reasons.

"All of our answers are unencumbered by the thought process." NPR's Click and Clack of Car Talk.

warriorchick

Quote from: Hards Alumni on January 29, 2025, 01:29:52 PMOtherwise, I'm a big fan of 1970 Chevelle SS 454s, and the above listed 78 Datsun 280z.

Believe it or not, my grandma had one of these.

She bought it new right out of the showroom without even test driving it. Literally only drove it to church and the grocery store. After she got too old to drive in the late 1980s,my dad sold it for more than she paid for it.
Have some patience, FFS.

Jockey

Quote from: Scoop Snoop on January 29, 2025, 04:17:49 PMAre you thinking what I'm thinking? Enough about favorite cars. Let's hijack this thread and talk about POS cars. Thread hijacking is a time-honored scoop tradition.

My stepdaughter had a mid 80's VW Cabriolet and asked my wife and I to drive it occasionally while she was in San Francisco for an extended period of time. The idea was to not let it sit for too long. So, the first time we drove it was on a long trip from Richmond to Virginia Beach and I was behind the wheel. I absolutely HATED that car! Worst POS I ever drove. The handling was just awful, and the engine performance was also bad. Also, it was butt ugly. I insisted that my wife drive that POS on our return to Richmond.

I drove a Pinto when I first got married. I would have gladly traded with your step-daughter.

tower912

74 Volkswagen dasher.  Floor rusting out.  Great car on which to learn to drive a manual.
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

ATL MU Warrior

Quote from: Scoop Snoop on January 29, 2025, 04:17:49 PMAre you thinking what I'm thinking? Enough about favorite cars. Let's hijack this thread and talk about POS cars. Thread hijacking is a time-honored scoop tradition.

My stepdaughter had a mid 80's VW Cabriolet and asked my wife and I to drive it occasionally while she was in San Francisco for an extended period of time. The idea was to not let it sit for too long. So, the first time we drove it was on a long trip from Richmond to Virginia Beach and I was behind the wheel. I absolutely HATED that car! Worst POS I ever drove. The handling was just awful, and the engine performance was also bad. Also, it was butt ugly. I insisted that my wife drive that POS on our return to Richmond.
Now this is a topic I can get behind. 

The first car I ever had was a 1984 Chevy Citation.  It had been my parents car and they had driven that thing to hell and back, usually with me and my two brothers crammed in the back seat. The car then became my oldest brother's, then my middle brother's neither of which gave a second thought to taking care of it.

By the time I took possession, it had 200k+ miles on it.  It had a problem with the motor mount brackets (they would break for no apparent reason) and I didn't have the money to fix it (wanna say it would have been $600, which might as well have been $600,000 to me as a 16 year old kid whose dad had died 2 years earlier...we had very little).  So, every time I would start the car, the engine would bounce up into the underside of the hood, leaving a dent that made it look like someone was trapped in the engine compartment and was trying to break out with a hammer.

I drove that thing around our town until it couldn't be driven any more (I think the engine was resting on the front axle).

On the plus side, it had a nice hidden compartment I created by removing a little coin tray in the center console that was held in place by 2 screws.  If you took that tray out you could fit about a 6-pack of beer inside the space underneath.  When I put the tray back in place, there was no way to know I had a beer stash in there.  I showed my older brothers and they couldn't believe they hadn't thought of it first. 


Scoop Snoop

Quote from: ATL MU Warrior on January 29, 2025, 05:43:03 PMI drove that thing around our town until it couldn't be driven any more (I think the engine was resting on the front axle).

On the plus side, it had a nice hidden compartment I created by removing a little coin tray in the center console that was held in place by 2 screws.  If you took that tray out you could fit about a 6-pack of beer inside the space underneath.  When I put the tray back in place, there was no way to know I had a beer stash in there.  I showed my older brothers and they couldn't believe they hadn't thought of it first. 

Love it! Hard to pick my favorite-the engine resting on the front axle or the secret beer stash hideaway.  ;D
Wild horses couldn't drag me into either political party, but for very different reasons.

"All of our answers are unencumbered by the thought process." NPR's Click and Clack of Car Talk.

Scoop Snoop

#43
Quote from: Jockey on January 29, 2025, 04:54:03 PMI drove a Pinto when I first got married. I would have gladly traded with your step-daughter.

Kudos for being brave enough to admit that you had a Pinto.  ;D 

I learned to drive on one of the Lake Erie islands where we had a cottage. No cops, so 13-year-old me drove the old car we kept on the island to avoid paying ferry fares. It was a 1941 Ford with a "three on the tree"-a 3 speed with a column mounted shifter. A neighbor drove a Ford Model A. and another neighbor, a 1947 Dodge.
Wild horses couldn't drag me into either political party, but for very different reasons.

"All of our answers are unencumbered by the thought process." NPR's Click and Clack of Car Talk.

Jockey

Quote from: Scoop Snoop on January 29, 2025, 09:17:20 PMKudos for being brave enough to admit that you had a Pinto.  ;D 

I learned to drive on one of the Lake Erie islands where we had a cottage. No cops, so 13-year-old me drove the old car we kept on the island to avoid paying ferry fares. It was a 1941 Ford with a "three on the tree"-a 3 speed with a column mounted shifter. A neighbor drove a Ford Model A. and another neighbor, a 1947 Dodge.

We recovered a 1924 Model T from a great uncle. Had to go on YouTube to figure out how to drive it.

Skatastrophy

Quote from: Jockey on January 30, 2025, 09:11:53 AMWe recovered a 1924 Model T from a great uncle. Had to go on YouTube to figure out how to drive it.
I learned to drive stick on an early Model T. The brakes did not always work as expected...

Billy Hoyle

I know the thread is about 80s and 90s cars, but my dad had a 1970 Plymouth Barracuda when he was in Med School I'd love to get one in his memory.

I always loved Miatas in the 90s, but am too tall to fit in one. I remember the day I left home for MU Freshman Orientation MU I had to take my Dodge Shadow (that my sister was going to drive upon my departure) to the dealer for service and they gave me a Mitsubishi Eclipse as a loner for the day so that vehicle is a favorite which brings a lot of nostalgia (just not in the teal color I had that day).
"Kevin thinks 'mother' is half a word." - Mike Deane

dgies9156

OK, for me, the worst POS cars I ever drove (rented) or owned were:

1) GM "X" Car. I bought my first new car, a 1981 Buick Skylark. 50,000 miles and that car was ready for the junkyard. Anything that could go wrong did go wrong. Soured me on GM for 25 years. Surprisingly, it was well maintained and it still fell apart.

2) Pontiac Fiero -- I rented one in the mid-1980s. It looked good. It drove like an absolute POS that only GM could have built. You put this together with the Pontiac Azteck and it's a wonder GM made it out of the 1980s. No wonder the Japanese came to dominate the US car market!

3) Plymouth Duster -- I "inherited" this 1974 car in my 1980 marriage. Looked nice. Drove like crap and fell apart quickly.

4) Honorable Mention -- 1999 Volvo X70 wagon. Had to buy this after the adoption of our second child. My wife was forever scarred at having to give-up her Mitsubishi Eclipse (bright red, often mistaken for Sister Chick's Miata) but my daughter kept kicking my wife's seat barking, "scoot, scoot." The station wagon looked like a Volvo -- boxy and rather ugly, but it performed well and most of all, it wasn't a minivan!

A couple cars I have loved:

5) 2015 BMW 528i -- My car now. This is really a fun car. Bought it pre-owned (no BMW is "used" -- just ask a salesman) for about half its original sticker. Had 19,000 miles on it in 2019, how has 51,000!

6) 1995 Lincoln Mark VIII -- This car was ALL engine. 4.6 liter V8, it could fly!

7) 2008 VW Eos Lux Turbo -- Has 105,000 miles on it and still looks good. Has an Audi A4 turbo in it and is really fun to drive.

Scoop Snoop

Billy, I think that the Barracuda was what a friend of mine had. A guy riding with him asked for a demo of how fast the car could go and, of course, how quickly. He hit 100 and still had power to go faster when he noticed flashing blue lights well behind him. When the cop finally caught up with him, he said "Pop the hood! I want to see that engine." No ticket, just a chat about the car.

Dgies, I had horses when Click and Clack, the NPR car guys, described the rear end of the Pontiac Aztec as looking like the South end of a horse as it is taking a dump. Perfect way of putting it.
Wild horses couldn't drag me into either political party, but for very different reasons.

"All of our answers are unencumbered by the thought process." NPR's Click and Clack of Car Talk.

Jockey

Quote from: dgies9156 on January 30, 2025, 10:58:43 AMOK, for me, the worst POS cars I ever drove (rented) or owned were:

3) Plymouth Duster -- I "inherited" this 1974 car in my 1980 marriage. Looked nice. Drove like crap and fell apart quickly.



The marriage or the car?

Billy Hoyle

Quote from: Scoop Snoop on January 30, 2025, 12:11:15 PMBilly, I think that the Barracuda was what a friend of mine had. A guy riding with him asked for a demo of how fast the car could go and, of course, how quickly. He hit 100 and still had power to go faster when he noticed flashing blue lights well behind him. When the cop finally caught up with him, he said "Pop the hood! I want to see that engine." No ticket, just a chat about the car.

Dgies, I had horses when Click and Clack, the NPR car guys, described the rear end of the Pontiac Aztec as looking like the South end of a horse as it is taking a dump. Perfect way of putting it.

that's awesome! I was smiling while reading it trying to envision my dad at the wheel!

My dad drove two Chevy pick-ups, each with an AM radio, vinyl seats, and power nothing when I was a kid, so when I learned he'd had a car like the Barracuda when he was younger I was stunned. A friend's kid is a car repair savant and I asked him to find one he could fix up for me so I could take it home to my dad but he had no luck.
"Kevin thinks 'mother' is half a word." - Mike Deane

18thandWells

Quote from: dgies9156 on January 30, 2025, 10:58:43 AM2) Pontiac Fiero -- I rented one in the mid-1980s. It looked good. It drove like an absolute POS that only GM could have built. You put this together with the Pontiac Azteck and it's a wonder GM made it out of the 1980s. No wonder the Japanese came to dominate the US car market!
(We used to be a Pontiac dealership). I actually sold a '88 Fiero maybe two summers ago. 8k miles. GT with the WS6 and crosslace wheels.

The Aztek came much later. It didn't "kill Pontiac" by itself, but it was a very bad model from the early 00's.

tower912

The Aztek was a concept 15 years too early executed poorly
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

dgies9156

Quote from: Jockey on January 30, 2025, 12:26:53 PMThe marriage or the car?

The car!

The marriage is closing in on 45 years. That's what happens when you marry a Marquette woman!

Daniel

I would take back my 1966 Mustang 2 + 2 fastback in Classic Burgundy.   Ty


Spaniel with a Short Tail

Always liked the styling of these mid-80s Turbo Coupes.



Had a rusty 1973 Ford Gran Torino while at MU. One overserved evening we decided to try to take out the back porch of the Delta Chi house. Gave the supporting pillar a good shot going in reverse. The pillar won.


tower912

Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

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