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Jay Bee

Years ago I subscribed to Freshly. Simple, somewhat edible and seemed healthier than going out for fast / fast casual all day every day. I think I got between 6 and 8 meals a week and occasionally didn't get through them all.. but did OK on that front.

I am STRONGLY considering trying out Factor. Do any Scoopers have experience with it and thoughts?

Any other meal delivery services to consider? I am not looking to prep sh1t. I am trying to take from the fridge to the microwave and scarf it down with little time lost.

Thanks. In health,

Jay Bee
Zero rings, but lotsa banners, Baldy.

Hards Alumni

Quote from: Jay Bee on January 09, 2025, 11:41:51 AMYears ago I subscribed to Freshly. Simple, somewhat edible and seemed healthier than going out for fast / fast casual all day every day. I think I got between 6 and 8 meals a week and occasionally didn't get through them all.. but did OK on that front.

I am STRONGLY considering trying out Factor. Do any Scoopers have experience with it and thoughts?

Any other meal delivery services to consider? I am not looking to prep sh1t. I am trying to take from the fridge to the microwave and scarf it down with little time lost.

Thanks. In health,

Jay Bee


My wife has done Factor a couple of times, and she's mistakenly ordered a couple of entrees with meat.  She is a pescatarian, so I've eaten a couple.  Honestly, they're probably the best reheatable food I've eaten.  My wife also really likes them, but is prone to being talked out of eating one and getting a sub from Jimmy John's fairly easily.   :P 

If you need a code or something for a discount, I'll see if I have one laying around.

TallTitan34

We did Factors a few months ago.  They were delicious but we didn't really understand how they were considered "healthier".  Many of the meals were approaching your daily fat and sodium recommended amounts.

I'd say if you want a quick delicious meal go for it but I wouldn't consider it remotely healthy if that's what you are looking for.

Jay Bee

Thanks, guys. I tend to look at calories... if they're low, great. Awful analysis I know, so not surprised these aren't the healthiest means around... but quick, tasty.. I think I'll give em a try.
Zero rings, but lotsa banners, Baldy.

Jockey

Quote from: Jay Bee on January 09, 2025, 02:55:23 PMThanks, guys. I tend to look at calories... if they're low, great. Awful analysis I know, so not surprised these aren't the healthiest means around... but quick, tasty.. I think I'll give em a try.

The best feature in any of these services is portion control.

Anytime someone told me they were starting a new diet, I always had the same four word advice: Eat less - Do more.

jesmu84

Quote from: Jay Bee on January 09, 2025, 02:55:23 PMThanks, guys. I tend to look at calories... if they're low, great. Awful analysis I know, so not surprised these aren't the healthiest means around... but quick, tasty.. I think I'll give em a try.

If "healthy" for you is weight, then calories is all that matters

BM1090

I didn't particularly love the Factor meals but it's solid for frozen good. And there are a few meals that were legitimately good. It's worth trying out.

Jay Bee

Quote from: BM1090 on January 09, 2025, 08:17:02 PMI didn't particularly love the Factor meals but it's solid for frozen good. And there are a few meals that were legitimately good. It's worth trying out.

Factor is not frozen!!! (They have some frozen options now, but the core meals are never frozen)

First BOX is scheduled to arrive on Tuesday. Let's f'n eat!!!
Zero rings, but lotsa banners, Baldy.

TallTitan34

Quote from: Jay Bee on January 16, 2025, 12:50:22 PMFactor is not frozen!!! (They have some frozen options now, but the core meals are never frozen)

Correct.  I believe the expiration date on them is a week after your delivery date.

Jay Bee

Quote from: TallTitan34 on January 16, 2025, 12:52:10 PMCorrect.  I believe the expiration date on them is a week after your delivery date.

Yep. (That said, I expect I won't get to 33% of em each week, smh)

Today is a great example. 1p, been working since 7 and would like a quick meal... I have like nothing at the house. Might run out quick for Panera or something similar, but a Factor meal would be perfect. Maybe not perfect. But a quick option.
Zero rings, but lotsa banners, Baldy.

Hards Alumni

Quote from: Jay Bee on January 16, 2025, 01:01:14 PMYep. (That said, I expect I won't get to 33% of em each week, smh)

Today is a great example. 1p, been working since 7 and would like a quick meal... I have like nothing at the house. Might run out quick for Panera or something similar, but a Factor meal would be perfect. Maybe not perfect. But a quick option.

Panera is ass.  Been terrible for years now.

TallTitan34

Quote from: Hards Alumni on January 16, 2025, 01:02:59 PMPanera is ass.  Been terrible for years now.

I joined the sip club several years ago.  Back then it was $8/month.  Might be $11 now?  Anyway you can get a free beverage (fountain drink, coffee, tea, lemonade, etc.) every two hours.

I pass a Panera to and from work and have one near my office I hit up at lunch.  In December they send out an email saying how much you saved being a sip club member.  Saved $1,823.

Mostly get a lime Bubly.


Hards Alumni

Quote from: TallTitan34 on January 16, 2025, 01:20:41 PMI joined the sip club several years ago.  Back then it was $8/month.  Might be $11 now?  Anyway you can get a free beverage (fountain drink, coffee, tea, lemonade, etc.) every two hours.

I pass a Panera to and from work and have one near my office I hit up at lunch.  In December they send out an email saying how much you saved being a sip club member.  Saved $1,823.

Mostly get a lime Bubly.



Not the charged lemonade?

TallTitan34

Quote from: Hards Alumni on January 16, 2025, 01:27:20 PMNot the charged lemonade?

Haha I tend to avoid that unless I have an offer for a free one.

🏀

Quote from: Hards Alumni on January 16, 2025, 01:02:59 PMPanera is ass.  Been terrible for years now.

Panera is hospital food.

Before you get mad, think about it.

Hards Alumni

Quote from: 🏀 on January 16, 2025, 04:45:28 PMPanera is hospital food.

Before you get mad, think about it.

This is an insult to hospital food.

Prison food, sure.

BM1090

Quote from: Jay Bee on January 16, 2025, 12:50:22 PMFactor is not frozen!!! (They have some frozen options now, but the core meals are never frozen)

First BOX is scheduled to arrive on Tuesday. Let's f'n eat!!!

You're right, I was lazy and misspoke. I meant pre-packaged as opposed to ingredients like HelloFresh.

GOO

I get the idea of not wanting to cook and prep if time is limited or you don't like it. We tried one of those and often we get home from work later and are just hungry etc. 

A prepped meal is better than processed foods for a quick meal, of course.

If I were going the preps-prep meal  route I'd try a local chef version. Mke has one so I suspect most bigger cities have them. I avoid salt and sugers and other stuff. No preservatives usually.

Some control over ingredients and can make  adjustments to ingredients - low salt etc. I know that is not a big concern of yours but if someone else is doing the work, why not make it good for you.

Also fresher, but fewer choices each week than national services if a lot of choices is a must.   

Scoop Snoop

Quote from: GOO on January 17, 2025, 06:41:19 AMI get the idea of not wanting to cook and prep if time is limited or you don't like it. We tried one of those and often we get home from work later and are just hungry etc. 

A prepped meal is better than processed foods for a quick meal, of course.

If I were going the preps-prep meal  route I'd try a local chef version. Mke has one so I suspect most bigger cities have them. I avoid salt and sugers and other stuff. No preservatives usually.

Some control over ingredients and can make  adjustments to ingredients - low salt etc. I know that is not a big concern of yours but if someone else is doing the work, why not make it good for you.

Also fresher, but fewer choices each week than national services if a lot of choices is a must. 

You touched on my concerns with these options. With chronic cardio issues, just the salt alone in prepared foods makes me avoid them. Long shelf lives are big red flags to me, although I believe there are methods other than salt to provide for a long shelf life. Americans love salt in so many things though, so I remain leery of all prepared foods.

Being retired, food prep is not a big deal to us, and we eat a lot of seafood. Fish and especially shellfish cook very quickly and requires minimal prep work. Chicken and occasional vegetarian meals round out most of the remainder of our diet. While chicken can require prep/seasoning time, it also can be cooked simply and quickly.

Our no-prep meals are called "leftovers". 
Wild horses couldn't drag me into either political party, but for very different reasons.

"All of our answers are unencumbered by the thought process." NPR's Click and Clack of Car Talk.

GOO

We eat out some and then it is hard to avoid too much salt and sugar. But it's okay on occasion.

We try to cook from scratch, we don't use salt or sugar, which helps avoid processed foods and all the bad stuff that comes with it. Pretty much avoiding processed foods solves the weight and nutritional problems we as a country suffer from. Never fast food.

I pick up and put down so much frozen preparedfood or prepared sauces at the grocery store with just a quick glance at the sodium. It is crazy how much sodium and sugars go into so many products.

Hards Alumni

Guys.  It's okay to cook with salt and sugar.  Especially since not much is required to bring flavor out.  The amounts that restaurants use (along with butter/oil) is egregious, but that is what you're paying for and why it shouldn't be done daily.

The best way to add salt is in short bits during cooking, and a tiny bit to finish.  The body needs salt.  Now, of course, there are people with cardiovascular issues that should keep to a low salt diet... but in general, salt is a healthy part of the human diet.

I do agree with you guys about watching what you buy from the store that already has salt and sugar included.  That is important.

Having said all this, I think the main issue we deal with is portion control.

Scoop Snoop

#21
Quote from: Hards Alumni on January 17, 2025, 10:34:28 AMGuys.  It's okay to cook with salt and sugar.  Especially since not much is required to bring flavor out.  The amounts that restaurants use (along with butter/oil) is egregious, but that is what you're paying for and why it shouldn't be done daily.

The best way to add salt is in short bits during cooking, and a tiny bit to finish.  The body needs salt.  Now, of course, there are people with cardiovascular issues that should keep to a low salt diet... but in general, salt is a healthy part of the human diet.

I do agree with you guys about watching what you buy from the store that already has salt and sugar included.  That is important.

Having said all this, I think the main issue we deal with is portion control.

All very good points Hards. Especially portion control.

I like to steam fresh broccoli and bake split Brussel sprouts in the oven. And Goo's singling out the "seasoned" frozen vegetables is spot on.

Slicing up an onion and cooking it to a dark golden brown is a great way to add flavor and some sweetness as well. Vedalias are ideal for this. The dark golden browned Brussel sprouts are also slightly sweet. Add a little balsamic vinegar and...yum! 
Wild horses couldn't drag me into either political party, but for very different reasons.

"All of our answers are unencumbered by the thought process." NPR's Click and Clack of Car Talk.

ATL MU Warrior

Quote from: Scoop Snoop on January 17, 2025, 10:56:36 AMAll very good points Hards. Especially portion control.

I like to steam fresh broccoli and bake split Brussel sprouts in the oven. And Goo's singling out the "seasoned" frozen vegetables is spot on.

Slicing up an onion and cooking it to a dark golden brown is a great way to add flavor and some sweetness as well. Vedalias are ideal for this. The slightly charred Brussel sprouts are also slightly sweet. Add a little balsamic vinegar and...yum! 
Don't forget the bacon. 

Hards Alumni

I make Brussel sprouts the same way.  If you want to add one more thing, a couple of crumbles of feta on top really set it off.

Well, now I'm hungry.

Scoop Snoop

Quote from: Hards Alumni on January 17, 2025, 11:01:55 AMI make Brussel sprouts the same way.  If you want to add one more thing, a couple of crumbles of feta on top really set it off.

Well, now I'm hungry.

Thanks! Gonna do that.
Wild horses couldn't drag me into either political party, but for very different reasons.

"All of our answers are unencumbered by the thought process." NPR's Click and Clack of Car Talk.

warriorchick

Quote from: Hards Alumni on January 17, 2025, 10:34:28 AMGuys.  It's okay to cook with salt and sugar.  Especially since not much is required to bring flavor out.  The amounts that restaurants use (along with butter/oil) is egregious, but that is what you're paying for and why it shouldn't be done daily.

The best way to add salt is in short bits during cooking, and a tiny bit to finish.  The body needs salt.  Now, of course, there are people with cardiovascular issues that should keep to a low salt diet... but in general, salt is a healthy part of the human diet.

I do agree with you guys about watching what you buy from the store that already has salt and sugar included.  That is important.

Having said all this, I think the main issue we deal with is portion control.

You are usually okay with the amounts of salt most people add to cooking, or even at the table.  I would never add a half-teaspoon of salt in a single serving of anything, but a lot of processed foods have that.
Have some patience, FFS.

#UnleashSean


Jay Bee

Quote from: #UnleashSean on January 17, 2025, 11:37:12 AM@Jay Bee at least use the oven my man

I do get refrigerated meals made at the grocery store that I put in the oven. Pretty good, not crazy portions. #LundsAndByerlys #Chef
Zero rings, but lotsa banners, Baldy.

jesmu84

Dietary salt and sugar intake is pretty much never a significant contributor to any health problems as long as portion control/total calorie control is maintained.

Also, can anyone define "processed" foods?

warriorchick

Quote from: jesmu84 on January 17, 2025, 12:35:11 PMDietary salt and sugar intake is pretty much never a significant contributor to any health problems as long as portion control/total calorie control is maintained.

Also, can anyone define "processed" foods?

The ones that are in the middle of the grocery store.  Shop the walls.
Have some patience, FFS.

MU82

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jesmu84

Quote from: warriorchick on January 17, 2025, 12:42:35 PMThe ones that are in the middle of the grocery store.  Shop the walls.

Canned or frozen veggies/meats/fruit would be considered processed?

warriorchick

Frozen is usually okay, not counting stuff like Tater Tots.

Canned veggies can have a lot of salt.  Check the labels.
Have some patience, FFS.

#UnleashSean

Quote from: warriorchick on January 17, 2025, 12:42:35 PMThe ones that are in the middle of the grocery store.  Shop the walls.
I only shop the pig

GOO

#34
There are processed foods and highly processed foods and things in between. Some worse than others, of course. Eg: You can find some veggie burgers that are mostly whole veggies less processed. But most of the fake meat that pretends to be healthy is completely processed with a lot of negative additives. Same with breads, there are some no or low salt, no sugers, that are not highly processed and count as whole grains. 

The suggestion about middle of the store is spot on. Otherwise look at it this way, did it go through a manufacturing process or a plant to make it, if it did it's processed.

Frozen veggies are great and even retain more freshness and vitamins than a lot of of the "fresh" veggies. They just don't roast and cook up as well, or taste as good.

No one is perfect, and I get enough salt and processed junk just living in America eg the pizza I had last night, the Asian take out I'll have later this week with sugers and salt added.

The realization that if you eat like an American, you're going to look like an American and have the health of an American, is a sad but true fact.

jesmu84

At the end of the day, as long as you aren't suffering from end-stage chronic health conditions (diabetes, kidney disease, heart failure, etc), portion control is all that matters.

Dietary sugar or salt amounts, processed foods, etc. None of that matters.


Maintain caloric control and the rest will be perfectly healthy


Scoop Snoop

Quote from: GOO on January 18, 2025, 06:50:29 AMFrozen veggies are great and even retain more freshness and vitamins than a lot of of the "fresh" veggies. They just don't roast and cook up as well, or taste as good.

True. A simple steaming basket in a saucepan cooks fresh vegetables quickly and roasting them adds another dimension to the taste. The "steam in the bag" vegetables end up soggy because the water pools in the bottom of the bag. I prefer fresh broccoli, Brussel sprouts, asparagus, etc.

I usually buy frozen berries though. Fresh ones spoil too quickly and require more frequent trips to the grocery store. A large bag of mixed blueberries, raspberries, blackberries and strawberries offers a variety at a much better cost and zero waste.
Wild horses couldn't drag me into either political party, but for very different reasons.

"All of our answers are unencumbered by the thought process." NPR's Click and Clack of Car Talk.

GOO

Quote from: jesmu84 on January 18, 2025, 08:58:17 AMAt the end of the day, as long as you aren't suffering from end-stage chronic health conditions (diabetes, kidney disease, heart failure, etc), portion control is all that matters.

Dietary sugar or salt amounts, processed foods, etc. None of that matters.


Maintain caloric control and the rest will be perfectly healthy



If going to strongly disagree and say science also disagrees. Don't have time now for a long post.

jesmu84

Quote from: GOO on January 18, 2025, 10:57:30 AMIf going to strongly disagree and say science also disagrees. Don't have time now for a long post.

Nah

Jay Bee

Scoop in 2025 = debating cookware and nutrition
Zero rings, but lotsa banners, Baldy.

GOO


TallTitan34


Jay Bee

Quote from: TallTitan34 on January 21, 2025, 08:08:06 AM@Jay Bee did you get your Factors yet?

Scheduled to arrive by 12:30p today. They may be frozen with the weather in the Twin Cities.

I'm if reading their website correctly, steak meals generally appear to cost AN EXTRA $13 fee. Wth
Zero rings, but lotsa banners, Baldy.

tower912

Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

rocky_warrior


Jay Bee

Green chile queso w chicken thigh pasta and broc

Flavor was very good. I could eat about 4 of these, but I'm good with it for a full meal.
Zero rings, but lotsa banners, Baldy.

Scoop Snoop

#46
Quote from: rocky_warrior on January 21, 2025, 11:33:19 AMI could pick this steak up right now.

Lemme guess. You're a good ole' country boy who headed west. Banquet Salisbury steak is a gourmet meal to them. You probably fry up the squirrels you killed too.
Wild horses couldn't drag me into either political party, but for very different reasons.

"All of our answers are unencumbered by the thought process." NPR's Click and Clack of Car Talk.

rocky_warrior

Quote from: Scoop Snoop on January 21, 2025, 12:11:22 PMLemme guess. You're a good ole' country boy who headed west. Banquet Salisbury steak is a gourmet meal to them. You probably fry up the squirrels you killed too.

Growing up that probably did qualify as the finest steak my folks could afford.

The Sultan

Quote from: rocky_warrior on January 21, 2025, 12:40:09 PMGrowing up that probably did qualify as the finest steak my folks could afford.

As a kid, I loved when my parents broke open the wallet so we could get the "chopped steak" at Ponderosa. Running those trays accross the metal "tracks" was another bonus.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

rocky_warrior

Quote from: The Sultan on January 21, 2025, 12:46:16 PMAs a kid, I loved when my parents broke open the wallet so we could get the "chopped steak" at Ponderosa. Running those trays accross the metal "tracks" was another bonus.

Ah ponderosa.  I only sentimentally miss that place.

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