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WarriorFan

one of the announcers - during Kam's freshman year - said something like "he plays with aggression, and he only shoots when he has the ball"... I think that's true of Parham this year.  Can't wait for his skills to catch up with his attitude... he's going to be a good one. 
"The meaning of life isn't gnashing our bicuspids over what comes after death but tasting the tiny moments that come before it."

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Quote from: MUMountin on November 30, 2024, 04:35:19 PMAs for thinking too far ahead, have we seen Shaka start an underclassman over an upperclassman yet?  Until we do, I'm not ready to anoint any of the frosh over Tre, Sean, Zaide, etc.  That seems to be a big part of the culture he is creating—if you commit to us, we'll commit to you.

Shaka hasn't really had many underclassmen worth starting over the upperclassmen.

The only example is Kolek and O-Max both starting as sophomores over RS-Jr Greg Elliott.

I also think we'll have a better idea by the end of the season.  If the freshmen pass the sophomores in the rotation, that'll be a pretty big clue as to which players have the inside track to start next year.


Goose

In the past the young guys were not better than the upperclassmen, with exception of TK. This freshmen class is an upgrade in talent and I suspect they will continue to get more playing time and likely start next season.

PGsHeroes32

Quote from: Goose on December 01, 2024, 09:47:59 AMIn the past the young guys were not better than the upperclassmen, with exception of TK. This freshmen class is an upgrade in talent and I suspect they will continue to get more playing time and likely start next season.

The only time TK was a "young guy"

He started with 2 other underclassmen haha
Lazar picking up where the BIG 3 left off....

MU82

Quote from: Goose on December 01, 2024, 09:47:59 AMIn the past the young guys were not better than the upperclassmen, with exception of TK. This freshmen class is an upgrade in talent and I suspect they will continue to get more playing time and likely start next season.

Yep. I don't think Shaka will hesitate to start the soph Owens - and the soph Parham, for that matter - over juniors if he believes it helps the team more.

Maybe if they were newcomers he'd go with older guys, but Owens and  Parham will be "veterans" next season, too.
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

forgetful

Quote from: MU82 on December 01, 2024, 01:06:56 PMYep. I don't think Shaka will hesitate to start the soph Owens - and the soph Parham, for that matter - over juniors if he believes it helps the team more.

Maybe if they were newcomers he'd go with older guys, but Owens and  Parham will be "veterans" next season, too.

Agreed. Shaka is going to put the team out on the floor that gives MU the best chance of winning. Emphasizing "veterans" over newcomers is more a product of the system, that emphasizes defensive intensity, than it is a "rule".

Our defensive system is intense, and complex, which takes players a while to get up to speed on. If a Frosh came in, and immediately could contribute better on both ends of the floor over a Senior, Shaka would start the Frosh.

That's just highly unlikely given the system.

PGsHeroes32

Shaka already said in his post game that DO is the guy he trusts with the ball as a PG most behind Kam(without Sean)

I find it hard to believe hes just gonna be on the bench next year so Norman an undersized 2 guard who cant shoot can start strictly cause hes a junior.
Lazar picking up where the BIG 3 left off....

JTJ3

Owens will definitely start next year, he'll be one of our top two or three players.

I'm less certain about Parham.  I could see Tre or hopefully a healthy Zaide starting for defense and then Parham coming off the bench to stagger the scorers and be a BE 6th Man of the Year contender like Jop did as a Soph.

PGsHeroes32

Quote from: JTJ3 on December 01, 2024, 01:37:58 PMOwens will definitely start next year, he'll be one of our top two or three players.

I'm less certain about Parham.  I could see Tre or hopefully a healthy Zaide starting for defense and then Parham coming off the bench to stagger the scorers and be a BE 6th Man of the Year contender like Jop did as a Soph.

I think playing Owens or Zaide at the 4 to start games would be asking for alots of trouble. Of the foul and bad start variety
Lazar picking up where the BIG 3 left off....

tower912

Gold, Parham, Owens, Ross, TBD.  If those 4 are here, they will start.  My instinct says the fifth will be Sean, but that is contingent upon his full recovery.
That will be a starting lineup with length and versatility.  The length will be nice.
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

forgetful

Quote from: JTJ3 on December 01, 2024, 01:37:58 PMOwens will definitely start next year, he'll be one of our top two or three players.

I'm less certain about Parham.  I could see Tre or hopefully a healthy Zaide starting for defense and then Parham coming off the bench to stagger the scorers and be a BE 6th Man of the Year contender like Jop did as a Soph.

I said it in the game chat. Owens will be the next MU player with a triple double. Wouldn't be surprised if it happens next year. Really depends on how much he will handle the ball.

MU82

Quote from: tower912 on December 01, 2024, 01:46:30 PMGold, Parham, Owens, Ross, TBD.  If those 4 are here, they will start.  My instinct says the fifth will be Sean, but that is contingent upon his full recovery.
That will be a starting lineup with length and versatility.  The length will be nice.

This, exactly.
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"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

GoldenEagles03

VIOLENCE!

TAMU, Knower of Ball

Quote from: GoldenEagles03 on December 01, 2024, 04:48:45 PMI would think it is pretty obviously Sean.

I don't think it is obvious. We have no idea what Sean will look like post injury.
Quote from: Goose on January 15, 2023, 08:43:46 PM
TAMU

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GoldenEagles03

Quote from: TAMU, Knower of Ball on December 01, 2024, 09:14:47 PMI don't think it is obvious. We have no idea what Sean will look like post injury.

Shaka has said multiple times that Sean is one of his favorite players. He's already back to doing this...he will be Sean.

https://x.com/Aries_Sherrie/status/1856778536083755234?t=Ax1V5cYC-E-s2x23nWjR5g&s=19
VIOLENCE!

Scoop Snoop

Quote from: GoldenEagles03 on December 01, 2024, 09:51:59 PMShaka has said multiple times that Sean is one of his favorite players. He's already back to doing this...he will be Sean.

https://x.com/Aries_Sherrie/status/1856778536083755234?t=Ax1V5cYC-E-s2x23nWjR5g&s=19

This does not refute TAMU's post. We will not know until we see Sean on the court in a game.
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TAMU, Knower of Ball

Quote from: GoldenEagles03 on December 01, 2024, 09:51:59 PMShaka has said multiple times that Sean is one of his favorite players. He's already back to doing this...he will be Sean.

https://x.com/Aries_Sherrie/status/1856778536083755234?t=Ax1V5cYC-E-s2x23nWjR5g&s=19

Shaka has also said multiple times that Tre is one of his favorite players and will be an All Big East player eventually.

A little secret, all of the players are one of Shakas favorite players.

ACLs are tricky.  From what I've heard,  Seans was particularly severe.  He is a player built in speed and explosiveness. Let's give him some time back before crowning him an obvious starter.
Quote from: Goose on January 15, 2023, 08:43:46 PM
TAMU

I do know, Newsie is right on you knowing ball.


GoldenEagles03

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Quote from: TAMU, Knower of Ball on December 01, 2024, 11:33:02 PMShaka has also said multiple times that Tre is one of his favorite players and will be an All Big East player eventually.

A little secret, all of the players are one of Shakas favorite players.

ACLs are tricky.  From what I've heard,  Seans was particularly severe.  He is a player built in speed and explosiveness. Let's give him some time back before crowning him an obvious starter.

IMO, he is an obvious starter in the '25-'26 season.

He's played in Big games and will be a Senior in a system that rewards retention. He is already back doing 5 on 5 less than a year later...give him another 11 months and he is that obvious starter.

Sean
Chase
Damarius
Ben

Seems like the most likely 4.

1. Zaide (pending injury diagnosis)
2. Royce
3. Tre

Would be my order for most likely to take that 5th spot.
VIOLENCE!

MU82

Quote from: GoldenEagles03 on December 02, 2024, 12:20:39 AMIMO, he is an obvious starter in the '25-'26 season.

He's played in Big games and will be a Senior in a system that rewards retention. He is already back doing 5 on 5 less than a year later...give him another 11 months and he is that obvious starter.

Sean
Chase
Damarius
Ben

Seems like the most likely 4.

1. Zaide (pending injury diagnosis)
2. Royce
3. Tre

Would be my order for most likely to take that 5th spot.

You are speculating that Sean will be what he was, except only more experienced. A few of us are saying we hope so ... but we don't know. And neither do you.
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

Scoop Snoop

Quote from: MU82 on December 02, 2024, 12:52:36 AMYou are speculating that Sean will be what he was, except only more experienced. A few of us are saying we hope so ... but we don't know. And neither do you.

How many times do scoopers need to repeat this before Golden Eagles understands it?
Wild horses couldn't drag me into either political party, but for very different reasons.

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tower912

Sean's game is about quickness and explosiveness.  It has to be.  He is 5'10 and isn't a shooter like Markus or Rowsey.   If he isn't as quick, strong, or explosive, he also isn't taller.

I believe he will make a full recovery.  It would be good for the team and even better for him.  But it takes time and there are no guarantees.  I tip my hat to the young man's work and determination.
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

The Sultan

I can actually see a scenario where, if healthy, both Sean and Tre start. Tre isn't a great offensive player, but the guy can defend. I think he could play the Stevie role, albiet not as well as we are seeing from Stevie now.

So...

Jones, Tre, Chase, Ben, DO (or Zaide)

Royce, Zaide (or DO), Hamilton are the first off the bench. And then you have the five freshmen so who knows.

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barfolomew

"You're too small"
"You're too slow"
"Seabiscuit is a stupid name"

You guys sound just like the enemies of Seabiscuit.
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GoldenEagles03

If Caedin develops a bit, I could see Benny playing a lot of 4 next year. Would move Damarius to the 3. Caedin and Clark at the 5.

Benny will start at the 5 but could get shifted to the 4 in-game if Clark and/or Caedin are the real deal.
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BM1090

Quote from: GoldenEagles03 on December 02, 2024, 09:48:22 AMIf Caedin develops a bit, I could see Benny playing a lot of 4 next year. Would move Damarius to the 3. Caedin and Clark at the 5.

Benny will start at the 5 but could get shifted to the 4 in-game if Clark and/or Caedin are the real deal.

Nah. Maybe a few mins per game, but he's the starting 5.

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