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The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole

Quote from: forgetful on November 20, 2024, 11:46:14 PMI'm definitely wishing him the best. But this does not look like a good hire, I'm wondering if due to the budget cuts and backlash that other candidates bowed out.

His number 1 priority needs to be a major capital campaign. MU really needs to double its endowment.

My guess is they wanted continuity - they ran the search off cycle and hired quickly. Hopefully it works.

Also they just wrapped up a pretty successful campaign just over a year ago. I'm sure they are already planning the next one.
Matthew 25:40: Truly I tell you, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers and sisters of mine, you did for me.

muwarrior69

Quote from: forgetful on November 20, 2024, 11:46:14 PMI'm definitely wishing him the best. But this does not look like a good hire, I'm wondering if due to the budget cuts and backlash that other candidates bowed out.

His number 1 priority needs to be a major capital campaign. MU really needs to double its endowment tuition.

Then maybe they can offer their non-tenured faculty better pay, benefits and working conditions.

The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole

Quote from: muwarrior69 on November 21, 2024, 08:49:13 AMThen maybe they can offer their non-tenured faculty better pay, benefits and working conditions.

I really am interested to here what your solution is to your problem with Marquette's tuition pricing. You complain a lot about it, but really don't offer much in the way of solutions.
Matthew 25:40: Truly I tell you, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers and sisters of mine, you did for me.

WarriorFan

Quote from: MU82 on November 21, 2024, 01:21:05 AMI don't follow the inner workings of Marquette's hierarchy.

Why is this a bad hire?
It's hard to get rid of diversity hires even when they fail.  There is no way this is the best candidate if a proper search was done.  I just hope there's a side agreement that he gets the job for 2 years while they find a proper leader.  He gets it on his resume and leaves quietly and the university gets time to find someone who will properly take the institution forward. 
"The meaning of life isn't gnashing our bicuspids over what comes after death but tasting the tiny moments that come before it."

The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole

Quote from: WarriorFan on November 21, 2024, 10:51:06 AMIt's hard to get rid of diversity hires even when they fail.  There is no way this is the best candidate if a proper search was done.  I just hope there's a side agreement that he gets the job for 2 years while they find a proper leader.  He gets it on his resume and leaves quietly and the university gets time to find someone who will properly take the institution forward. 

LOL, there is no "side agreement." Seriously? He's the new President.

Obviously you don't like the choice for whatever reason. ("Diversity hire..."  ::)  ::)  ::) )  The Trustees disagree. I guess we will see.
Matthew 25:40: Truly I tell you, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers and sisters of mine, you did for me.

jesmu84

Quote from: WarriorFan on November 21, 2024, 10:51:06 AMIt's hard to get rid of diversity hires even when they fail.  There is no way this is the best candidate if a proper search was done.  I just hope there's a side agreement that he gets the job for 2 years while they find a proper leader.  He gets it on his resume and leaves quietly and the university gets time to find someone who will properly take the institution forward. 

Is he just a diversity hire? Why would the university place someone in a position where they're unqualified? Was he qualified for his prior position?

The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole

He's plenty qualified. Whether or not he will be good at the job remains to be seen. Hopefully he will be.
Matthew 25:40: Truly I tell you, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers and sisters of mine, you did for me.

Zog from Margo

Quote from: WarriorFan on November 21, 2024, 10:51:06 AMIt's hard to get rid of diversity hires even when they fail.  There is no way this is the best candidate if a proper search was done.  I just hope there's a side agreement that he gets the job for 2 years while they find a proper leader.  He gets it on his resume and leaves quietly and the university gets time to find someone who will properly take the institution forward. 

Diversity hire? Seriously. Are you concerned he won't do as good a job as Fr. Pillarz or Fr. (MU Gold) DiUlio?

tower912

Trying not to be political here, but you are correct, Zog.  MU has had celibate white males who were poor presidents.   To criticize this hire simply simply due to pigmentation and ethnic background is poor form.

He may be good, he may be bad.  Whatever the answer is, it has nothing to do with his parents.

All we can do is hope he succeeds, as that would mean MU succeeds.
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

100AcreNation

Quote from: WarriorFan on November 21, 2024, 10:51:06 AMIt's hard to get rid of diversity hires even when they fail.  There is no way this is the best candidate if a proper search was done.  I just hope there's a side agreement that he gets the job for 2 years while they find a proper leader.  He gets it on his resume and leaves quietly and the university gets time to find someone who will properly take the institution forward. 

Providing no other reason for why this wasn't a good hire besides calling him a "diversity hire" is a surefire way to know that you have no idea what you're talking about. How about providing decisions or policies that President Ah Yun implemented that you disagreed with? Otherwise you just sound like a whiny bigot.

Warrior2008

Quote from: tower912 on November 21, 2024, 11:42:49 AMTrying not to be political here, but you are correct, Zog.  MU has had celibate white males who were poor presidents.  To criticize this hire simply simply due to pigmentation and ethnic background is poor form.

He may be good, he may be bad.  Whatever the answer is, it has nothing to do with his parents.

All we can do is hope he succeeds, as that would mean MU succeeds.

Well said.  Kimo is a good man and is worthy of the promotion.  Time will tell if he's a good President, he certainly has huge shoes to fill.  But I'd rather take my chances with a known figure who was the right hand person of the last guy(who was pretty successful), than a complete unknown from the outside.

swoopem

I'm assuming him and Shaka already know he each other and have a good relationship. That's good enough for me. Now let's focus on growth and victory
Bring back FFP!!!

MU82

Quote from: WarriorFan on November 21, 2024, 10:51:06 AMIt's hard to get rid of diversity hires even when they fail.  There is no way this is the best candidate if a proper search was done.  I just hope there's a side agreement that he gets the job for 2 years while they find a proper leader.  He gets it on his resume and leaves quietly and the university gets time to find someone who will properly take the institution forward. 

Ah, so you offer no evidence whatsoever to support your claim that "there is no way this is the best candidate." You're just leaning on a racist, political-talking-point reason for disliking the hire. Thanks!
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

forgetful

Quote from: MU82 on November 21, 2024, 01:21:05 AMI don't follow the inner workings of Marquette's hierarchy.

Why is this a bad hire?

This is just my personal opinion. Usually a President hire involves bringing someone in from prestigious peer/aspirant universities, to look like a splash hire and to drive excitement and to institute change/growth.

This was an internal hire, of a qualified, but not exceptional candidate, during a time of significant upheaval at MU.

My guess, is that like Sultan indicated, this was a continuity hire, to maintain the direction of planned budget cuts by the board of trustees. It is likely that external candidates were likely to want to institute their own plan/vision, and/or were not enthusiastic about the current internal issues at MU.

So one of two possibilities. A continuity hire, or a lack of interest by strong external candidates. Both are not good situations for the University and why I called it a bad hire (but might be their only or best choice).

Badgerhater

As long as the new president doesn't mess with Shaka Smart's happy he will be fine.

The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole

Quote from: forgetful on November 21, 2024, 12:39:44 PMUsually a President hire involves bringing someone in from prestigious peer/aspirant universities, to look like a splash hire and to drive excitement and to institute change/growth.

The last guy we hired from UWM.
Matthew 25:40: Truly I tell you, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers and sisters of mine, you did for me.

MU82

Quote from: The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole on November 21, 2024, 12:52:33 PMThe last guy we hired from UWM.

Yep ... you beat me to it. Some thought Lovell was a bad hire and that Marquette had settled. I think most came to believe Lovell was a darn good university president.

"Good" hires can come from anywhere, as can "bad" hires.

Because I have seen no information leading me to believe otherwise, I'm going to trust Marquette's process, believe them when they say Dr. Ah Yun deserved the promotion, and hope he's a very good president for my alma mater.
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

Uncle Rico

Quote from: MU82 on November 21, 2024, 03:55:23 PMYep ... you beat me to it. Some thought Lovell was a bad hire and that Marquette had settled. I think most came to believe Lovell was a darn good university president.

"Good" hires can come from anywhere, as can "bad" hires.

Because I have seen no information leading me to believe otherwise, I'm going to trust Marquette's process, believe them when they say Dr. Ah Yun deserved the promotion, and hope he's a very good president for my alma mater.

Some here didn't like Lovell
Ramsey head thoroughly up his ass.

rocket surgeon

Quote from: The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole on November 21, 2024, 11:25:04 AMHe's plenty qualified. Whether or not he will be good at the job remains to be seen. Hopefully he will be.

  oh, so
Quote from: The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole on November 21, 2024, 04:32:57 AMMy guess is they wanted continuity - they ran the search off cycle and hired quickly. Hopefully it works.

Also they just wrapped up a pretty successful campaign just over a year ago. I'm sure they are already planning the next one.

 the search checked the box just like the vote for the nickname change

I believe our HAVE to have a "search"
felz Houston ate uncle boozie's hands

Uncle Rico

Quote from: rocket surgeon on November 21, 2024, 04:18:37 PMoh, so
 the search checked the box just like the vote for the nickname change

I believe our HAVE to have a "search"

7 out of 10
Ramsey head thoroughly up his ass.

Lennys Tap

Quote from: forgetful on November 20, 2024, 11:46:14 PMHis number 1 priority needs to be a major capital campaign. MU really needs to double its endowment.

Buy bitcoin.

MU82

Quote from: Uncle Rico on November 21, 2024, 04:06:27 PMSome here didn't like Lovell

I remember that there was one numb-nuts who couldn't even give a rational reason for why he hated Lovell, but maybe there were others. I mostly remember Scoopers growing to appreciate Mike, though maybe I'm misremembering.
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

4everwarriors

"Give 'Em Hell, Al"

MUfan12

A lot of the same faculty complaints were aimed at Lovell as well, so that doesn't bother me about the hire.

As for athletics, you can see Kimo stand and jump up when Stevie canned the three to give Kam the triple double. He made mention at his introduction of how he lost his voice at the game.

tower912

Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

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