2024-25 MLB Hot Stove

[MU82]

I was oozing sarcasm.

Get a Band-Aid for that. It's disgusting.

[ChuckyChip]

Has anyone seen, either officially or unofficially, what the Brewers offer to Adames was? I would assume they were at least close in AAV and just didn't want to offer the length that he got, but I haven't seen anything with #'s.

TBC, don't blame Willy for taking it, don't blame the Brewers for not matching it, just curious to see what the numbers were.

Outside of the qualifying offer they  had to make to ensure draft pick compensation (around $18.5M for one year), I don't think any offer was made by the Brewers.  They simply do not have the ability/desire to have $50M+/year tied up in two players (Yelich being the other).

[Its DJOver]

Outside of the qualifying offer they  had to make to ensure draft pick compensation (around $18.5M for one year), I don't think any offer was made by the Brewers.  They simply do have the ability/desire to have $50M+/year tied up in two players (Yelich being the other).

Fully agree with the last sentence, but I still would have thought that they'd throw a 5/120 out there as a curtesy just so that Mark could say that he tried.  You may be right though, if nothing's leaked they might not have even made one.

[The Sultan]

Fully agree with the last sentence, but I still would have thought that they'd throw a 5/120 out there as a curtesy just so that Mark could say that he tried.  You may be right though, if nothing's leaked they might not have even made one.

My guess is that Mark did try - a long time ago and the answer was clear.  Not that Mark has to justify anything.

[ChuckyChip]

My guess is that Mark did try - a long time ago and the answer was clear.  Not that Mark has to justify anything.

And it's about respecting Adames as well.  If you make some token offer just to save face, and make it look like Adames "turned us down", that's disrespectful to a guy who did nothing but good things for the organization.

[WhiteTrash]

Do you think the White Sox did well with the Crochet deal?

I think Getz has his first acceptable deal as GM. Crochet could turn into the best pitcher in baseball but his injury history is a major concern and thus the return seems decent.

[Uncle Rico]

Do you think the White Sox did well with the Crochet deal?

I think Getz has his first acceptable deal as GM. Crochet could turn into the best pitcher in baseball but his injury history is a major concern and thus the return seems decent.

Think it's a very good return.  Prospects are high-risk stocks.  You never know what they are until they get to the bigs but moving Crochet now was the right move.

[WhiteTrash]

Think it's a very good return.  Prospects are high-risk stocks.  You never know what they are until they get to the bigs but moving Crochet now was the right move.

Getz has been directed to cut payroll, so major league players were never going to be the return. So I'll judge him on what he allowed to do. I'll concede another team could have received more but the CWS are a true dumpster fire.

[Uncle Rico]

Getz has been directed to cut payroll, so major league players were never going to be the return. So I'll judge him on what he allowed to do. I'll concede another team could have received more but the CWS are a true dumpster fire.

Maybe?  White Sox need talent infusion and this helps.  Will they pan out and be developed?  TBD. 

[Jockey]

Do you think the White Sox did well with the Crochet deal?

I think Getz has his first acceptable deal as GM. Crochet could turn into the best pitcher in baseball but his injury history is a major concern and thus the return seems decent.

Yes.

Even high prospects are risky, but there is no other options for a team like Chicago. If they traded for major league players, they would be gone by the time the team gets good.

[Shaka Shart]

I think Montgomery will end up being the best piece of this deal. Cannon arm switch hitter outfielder who fell in the draft due to an ankle injury. Obviously that injury presents risks but he was quite the player in college.

White Sox despite their endless ineptitude can develop pitchers. I think the return on Crochet was perfectly fine, especially considering how they've been fleeced consistently in the past.

[CreightonWarrior]

Sounds like Devin Williams is headed to the Yankees per Passan. I assume it will be straight up for Judge.

[CreightonWarrior]

Nestor Cortes and Caleb Durbin coming back.

[The Sultan]

Sounds like Devin Williams is headed to the Yankees per Passan. I assume it will be straight up for Judge.

Nestor Cortes and Caleb Durbin. Cortes is in the last year of his deal and they'll control Durbin for awhile. A very "Brewers" trade.

[cheebs09]

Nestor Cortes and Caleb Durbin. Cortes is in the last year of his deal and they'll control Durbin for awhile. A very "Brewers" trade.

Yeah, I'm not sure this is the sexy Reliever trade I was expecting. But it sounds like Durbin had a bit of a breakout year and is a middle infielder with talent. Sounds like Cortes is a solid mid-rotation starter.

Feels like a decent return for one year of Williams. Especially with how erratic relievers can be.

[Its DJOver]

Turang to SS?

[The Sultan]

Turang to SS?

Or Ortiz. Durbin can apparently play third.

[Dish]

Brewer fans, do you like Cortes as part of this deal? I was surprised by him being in this deal. Not bad/good, just "Cortes? Huh".

[Uncle Rico]

Brewer fans, do you like Cortes as part of this deal? I was surprised by him being in this deal. Not bad/good, just "Cortes? Huh".

Needed another starter.  Pitching lab go brrrrrrrrrrr.  If healthy, and that seems like an if (I'd assume the medical are fine but you never know), he slots in for Rea.

Durbin is interesting.  Fits the Brewers type.  Some thought he'd be the Yankees starting 2B in 2025, others doubted that.  Weak exit velocity and given they have Frelick, that's a concern.  A lot of people really like him, a lot don't.  Wait and see but if he gets on-base, they might be a team with a lot of speed

[MUBurrow]

Brewer fans, do you like Cortes as part of this deal? I was surprised by him being in this deal. Not bad/good, just "Cortes? Huh".

Just my opinion, but I don't love it. Just not enough team control remaining.  He's fine, and like Rico said - the Brewers will get every bit of performance out of his quirkiness they can.  But I don't see a ton of value in having a player with one year of control be a big part of the return for a player with one year of control.

[Uncle Rico]

Just my opinion, but I don't love it. Just not enough team control remaining.  He's fine, and like Rico said - the Brewers will get every bit of performance out of his quirkiness they can.  But I don't see a ton of value in having a player with one year of control be a big part of the return for a player with one year of control.

Though, I will say, if Devin was pitching the 9th inning in a high leverage spot next October, I'd have driven to AmFam and escorted each FO member to Mitchell International myself

[MUfan12]

Largely fine with it.

Williams is a great regular season closer. But with his postseason struggles/wall punching, and only one year of control the return wasn't going to blow anyone away. And they get $4.5 million in sand cash.

[MUBurrow]

Though, I will say, if Devin was pitching the 9th inning in a high leverage spot next October, I'd have driven to AmFam and escorted each FO member to Mitchell International myself

That's fair - I'm probably nitpicking the return. Always just way too much traffic.

[HutchwasClutch]

As said, starting pitching needed. It's really an exchange of two good pitchers in the last year of contracts with each team filling a need and dealing from their surplus. (Brewers short relief depth a little more iffy than Yanks starting depth).

Then Durbin thrown in who runs really well, puts the ball in play and gives them IF depth and versatility to move Turang to SS, his natural position if they want.

Both teams seemed to do fine in this. Cashman said wait and see about any long term commitment to Williams. 

[Lennys Tap]

Brewer fans, do you like Cortes as part of this deal? I was surprised by him being in this deal. Not bad/good, just "Cortes? Huh".

Not a Brewer fan but I think Cortes is fine. He was great in 22, injured in 23 and serviceable last year. He was taken out of the rotation very briefly last year and showed a bit of an attitude about it. Could have something to do with him being available.