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B&G Luncheon

Date/Time: Oct 31, 2024 11:30am
TV: NA
Schedule for 2023-24
27-10

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Galway Eagle

Three games against the B1G this year. Hope he's ready to go win against the conference he's 6-14 against all time and 2-7 against at MU.
Maigh Eo for Sam

WeAreMarquette96

4D chess move by Shaka. Heading to the DMV in the fall to potentially visit and close on 2025 recruits Nyk Lewis and Adrien Stevens

wisblue

Glad to see them getting these games even without the conference challenges.

That's at least 5 OOC games now against power conference teams.

wisblue

Quote from: Galway Eagle on May 15, 2024, 10:03:09 AM
Three games against the B1G this year. Hope he's ready to go win against the conference he's 6-14 against all time and 2-7 against at MU.

I remember 3 against UW, 2 against Illinois, 2 against Purdue, and the NCAA game against MSU.

What's the 9th?

Galway Eagle

Quote from: wisblue on May 15, 2024, 10:29:23 AM
I remember 3 against UW, 2 against Illinois, 2 against Purdue, and the NCAA game against MSU.

What's the 9th?

I included the Michigan "secret scrimmage" loss.
Maigh Eo for Sam

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Its DJOver

Wonder who Darryl will be pulling for.  Spent more time at Maryland, but actually played for Shaka and not Willard.
Quote from: nyg on May 13, 2024, 02:07:11 PM
I'll stick with my opinion on Gold.  He'll be in foul trouble within the first eight minutes.

JakeBarnes

Quote from: Its DJOver on May 15, 2024, 10:44:27 AM
Wonder who Darryl will be pulling for.  Spent more time at Maryland, but actually played for Shaka and not Willard.

Might have to get him one of those split jerseys.

I feel like he'd probably go Marquette on this one given that he followed his guy here and Turgeon is gone.

Really good one to schedule though. East coast reach with an area that we recruit (as others have noted in this thread).
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wisblue

Quote from: Galway Eagle on May 15, 2024, 10:31:13 AM
I included the Michigan "secret scrimmage" loss.

::)

That's pretty bogus.

JakeBarnes

Assume what I say should be in teal if it doesn't pass the smell test for you.


Galway Eagle

Quote from: wisblue on May 15, 2024, 11:19:47 AM
::)

That's pretty bogus.

... it's one game I'd have included it if we won as well. Does 25% vs 22% win % really change the point that much?
Maigh Eo for Sam

The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole

Quote from: Galway Eagle on May 15, 2024, 11:35:40 AM
... it's one game I'd have included it if we won as well. Does 25% vs 22% win % really change the point that much?

1. It's not an actual game. It's silly to include it either way.

2. Out of curiosity, do we know what games they were favored in? I would guess we were favored in the home game v. UW and the tournament game v. MSU for sure. I think we were underdogs in both Illinois games, both Purdue games and the first UW game. Not remembering last year's UW game.
Matthew 25:40: Truly I tell you, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers and sisters of mine, you did for me.

PGsHeroes32

Quote from: The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole on May 15, 2024, 11:40:38 AM
1. It's not an actual game. It's silly to include it either way.

2. Out of curiosity, do we know what games they were favored in? I would guess we were favored in the home game v. UW and the tournament game v. MSU for sure. I think we were underdogs in both Illinois games, both Purdue games and the first UW game. Not remembering last year's UW game.

We were slight favorites this year vs UW
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The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole

Quote from: PGsHeroes32 on May 15, 2024, 11:54:44 AM
We were slight favorites this year vs UW

So we favored to go 3-5, but we went 2-6.
Matthew 25:40: Truly I tell you, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers and sisters of mine, you did for me.

MDMU04

Quote from: The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole on May 15, 2024, 11:40:38 AM
2. Out of curiosity, do we know what games they were favored in? I would guess we were favored in the home game v. UW and the tournament game v. MSU for sure. I think we were underdogs in both Illinois games, both Purdue games and the first UW game. Not remembering last year's UW game.

Going off KenPom:
Underdog
2021 vs Illinois, MU +9
2022 vs Purdue, MU +10
2023 vs Illinois, MU +1
2023 vs Purdue, MU +3

Favorite
2022 vs UW, MU -5
2023 vs UW, MU -1
2023 vs Mich. State, MU -3
"They call me eccentric. They used to call me nuts. I haven't changed." - Al McGuire

The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole

Quote from: MDMU04 on May 15, 2024, 12:03:53 PM
Going off KenPom:
Underdog
2021 vs Illinois, MU +9
2022 vs Purdue, MU +10
2023 vs Illinois, MU +1
2023 vs Purdue, MU +3

Favorite
2022 vs UW, MU -5
2023 vs UW, MU -1
2023 vs Mich. State, MU -3

Assuming we were underdogs for the '21 game at Madison.
Matthew 25:40: Truly I tell you, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers and sisters of mine, you did for me.

MDMU04

"They call me eccentric. They used to call me nuts. I haven't changed." - Al McGuire

The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole

OK, so we lost one more than we should have. I think this seems more of a big deal than it actually is because one of those "upsets" was in the NCAAT and two were to UW.
Matthew 25:40: Truly I tell you, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers and sisters of mine, you did for me.

Galway Eagle

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Quote from: MDMU04 on May 15, 2024, 12:03:53 PM
Going off KenPom:
Underdog
2021 vs Illinois, MU +9
2022 vs Purdue, MU +10
2023 vs Illinois, MU +1
2023 vs Purdue, MU +3

Favorite
2022 vs UW, MU -5
2023 vs UW, MU -1
2023 vs Mich. State, MU -3

Idk how hard it is to look up at point spreads by coach so these are just at a glance records and I'll leave it you to decide if you want to check whether Shaka's teams were favored or not.

Vs B12 7-0 (just between VCU & MU)
Vs PAC 12 (8-3)
Vs SEC (7-6)
Vs ACC (11-5)

Again I don't know what amount of games his teams were or were not favored in so maybe a lot of scrubs there but that'd be wild if he just happened to predominantly play teams he's an underdog against in the B1G as opposed to other conferences. I think there's enough data to at least ponder whether it's a matchup of styles issue.
Maigh Eo for Sam

MU82

I pondered it and have concluded that there is not enough data to make a real conclusion.

I lean toward coincidence, though.
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"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole

I think it could be a pace thing. But it's not that big of a deal IMO.
Matthew 25:40: Truly I tell you, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers and sisters of mine, you did for me.

Mu8891

I don't think it is a coincidence

Either way, great job of scheduling power 5 schools in NC

MU82

Quote from: Mu8891 on May 15, 2024, 09:44:23 PM
I don't think it is a coincidence

So, in regards to how they did against Madison, do you think Wojo (4-3) was a better coach than Shaka (0-3), or merely that Wojo built more hard-nosed, rough-and-tumble teams that could handle Madison better?
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PointWarrior

Quote from: MU82 on May 15, 2024, 10:13:48 PM
So, in regards to how they did against Madison, do you think Wojo (4-3) was a better coach than Shaka (0-3), or merely that Wojo built more hard-nosed, rough-and-tumble teams that could handle Madison better?

Maybe Shaka can have Wojo be a guest coach for Wisconsin games...