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#UnleashSean

Man, everyone has forgotten about sean.

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tower912

I want Sean to heal.   Anything he gives this coming season is gravy.
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

WarriorFan

Sean just needs to come into form in time for the BET.

When you look at the turmoil and turnover in the other BEAST teams, it's hard to see how any of them will be better than MU.  Of course, some of the new free agents will gel with their teams and perform well, and other coaches will somehow create a whole that's greater than the sum of the parts.  I don't think any other team in the BEAST (the country???) has 8 guys returning and MU has 8 guys who got serious game minutes returning. 
"The meaning of life isn't gnashing our bicuspids over what comes after death but tasting the tiny moments that come before it."

mug644

Quote from: tower912 on April 21, 2024, 07:40:17 AM
It also makes the recruiting needs clear.   Need two guards and a forward in the 25 recruiting class.

It seems to make the "known" recruiting needs clear. NIL and the transfer portal bring loads of uncertainty to a roster each and every year. Except for Shaka's MU teams, so far.

Goose

IMO, Jop is the key for next year. He needs to take big strides on being more consistent as a scorer and take advantage of being the go to guy. All other items noted by Tower are important, but none bigger than Joplin.

In a lot of ways Joplin is the poster child of Shaka's philosophy on retaining players. A lot of expectations were thrown his way early on in his career and we will see if he is up to the task.

Herman Cain

Quote from: tower912 on April 20, 2024, 01:37:28 PM
Kam:  15% better ball handler and creator for others.
Stevie:  improved ballhandling, hits open 3s.
Joplin:  quicker release on jumper, more consistent.
Ben:  Henry, Joey, and Sam's skillset in a blender, with Oso's heart
Chase:  Health and steady progress.
Amadou:  6'9 230 lb Barro
Hamilton: Theo
Tre:   Mayo's skill, Junior's brain and court vision
Zaide:  more Kalkbrenner blocking.   Steady improvement
Owens:  Claude's athleticism and Scheierman's 35% 3 pt shooting.
Parham:  Ben Gold path, with less length and more bulk.
Sean:  healing

80% of the best case is a return to the sweet 16. (Match ups not withstanding)  90% is elite 8.   100% is the final four.   

If everything falls into place, all the pieces are such that next season could be even better.   Yes, nearly everything has to go right. (cockeyed optimist that I am)   It will be nice to see the full court pressure again.   And I don't think Hamilton and Amadou can currently play at the same time in Nevada's offense.
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Scoop Snoop

Quote from: Goose on April 21, 2024, 09:19:27 AM
IMO, Jop is the key for next year. He needs to take big strides on being more consistent as a scorer and take advantage of being the go to guy. All other items noted by Tower are important, but none bigger than Joplin.

In a lot of ways Joplin is the poster child of Shaka's philosophy on retaining players. A lot of expectations were thrown his way early on in his career and we will see if he is up to the task.

"More consistent" is a very good way to word it Goose. No one is good 100% of the time, but Jop has been the guy who made me nervous most vs. high level opponents. Shaka has shown enough faith in Jop to give him a chance to prove himself. I think "key for next year" says a lot, but I also think if Jop is not up to the task, we have other guys to help out.
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Shooter McGavin

Quote from: Goose on April 21, 2024, 09:19:27 AM
IMO, Jop is the key for next year. He needs to take big strides on being more consistent as a scorer and take advantage of being the go to guy. All other items noted by Tower are important, but none bigger than Joplin.

In a lot of ways Joplin is the poster child of Shaka's philosophy on retaining players. A lot of expectations were thrown his way early on in his career and we will see if he is up to the task.


I like Joplin as a 3rd or fourth option.  I hope he takes another leap as you are saying but he doesn't seem to have the athleticism or basketball IQ to be the number 1 or 2 option on a really good team.

I'm hoping that Ben is the number two and plays like Mamu did at Seton Hall when their star guards left.  That would put Joplin down to the 3rd option. And if Chase explodes down to the fourth option.

I just think the ball in his hands too much stalls the offense.  Catch and shoot from three with the occasional "drive" to the basket for a layup or well timed 5-8 footer is still the appropriate role for him. 







Afroman

*Joplin -- Become more like a Klay Thompson-like player and rarely put the ball on the floor.

WarriorFan

Now that these guys get paid, they can also get fined.  I'd give Jop 100 dribbles for the season.  If he exceeds that, or 10 per game, he loses $1000 of his NIL money per dribble.
If this was in place last year, it would have either prevented many drives to nowhere, or he'd have been one of the university's largest donors.
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Badgerhater

I used to yell "Dammit Buycks!"  at the TV whenever he did something stupid.

Jop has those type of games a bit too often....but not as often as Buycks.

Big Papi

Jop made big improvements over the course of last year and I expect more improvement from him next year.  He got into better shape.  He got better defensively.  He figured out how to start scoring in the paint with his fadeaway mini jump shot and I think he improved more athletically.  That slam over Kalk was not happening the two years prior.  He needs to continue to improve in all of those areas and take care of the ball better on his drives.  I think it will happen.  Kam is the go to.  Jop will be the number 2. 

Need Tre to step up.  Most important player development over the summer.   


pbiflyer

Quote from: tower912 on April 20, 2024, 01:37:28 PM
Kam:  15% better ball handler and creator for others.
Stevie:  improved ballhandling, hits open 3s.
Joplin:  quicker release on jumper, more consistent.
Ben:  Henry, Joey, and Sam's skillset in a blender, with Oso's heart
Chase:  Health and steady progress.
Amadou:  6'9 230 lb Barro
Hamilton: Theo
Tre:   Mayo's skill, Junior's brain and court vision
Zaide:  more Kalkbrenner blocking.   Steady improvement
Owens:  Claude's athleticism and Scheierman's 35% 3 pt shooting.
Parham:  Ben Gold path, with less length and more bulk.
Sean:  healing

80% of the best case is a return to the sweet 16. (Match ups not withstanding)  90% is elite 8.   100% is the final four.   

If everything falls into place, all the pieces are such that next season could be even better.   Yes, nearly everything has to go right. (cockeyed optimist that I am)   It will be nice to see the full court pressure again.   And I don't think Hamilton and Amadou can currently play at the same time in Nevada's offense.

COLE. Sad.   ;D

Nice. I think Hamilton will be a bit better on offense than Theo.


79Warrior

Quote from: Goose on April 21, 2024, 09:19:27 AM
IMO, Jop is the key for next year. He needs to take big strides on being more consistent as a scorer and take advantage of being the go to guy. All other items noted by Tower are important, but none bigger than Joplin.

In a lot of ways Joplin is the poster child of Shaka's philosophy on retaining players. A lot of expectations were thrown his way early on in his career and we will see if he is up to the task.

I think he will continue to improve and will be a solid contributor next season.

tower912

Quote from: pbiflyer on April 21, 2024, 05:15:57 PM
COLE. Sad.   ;D

Nice. I think Hamilton will be a bit better on offense than Theo.
Funny.  Hopefully, you are correct. His numbers are less important than his presence.
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

rgoode57

The prognosis for next season is very uncertain. A starting 5 of Gold, Joplin, Ross, K. Jones, and Mitchell is certainly solid. But, which of those guys, other than Kam and maybe Chase, is likely to play major minutes on a top-10 team? And, behind that 5 is a lot of unknown, limited experience, no experience, and 2 freshmen. The best case scenario is that the two freshmen can actually contribute in a meaningful way, that Hamilton is actually a player who can provide good minutes at the post, and that Lowery and Norman make a big step forward. Otherwise, it may be a bit of a let-down season.

BrewCity83

Quote from: rgoode57 on April 22, 2024, 11:57:54 AM
The prognosis for next season is very uncertain. A starting 5 of Gold, Joplin, Ross, K. Jones, and Mitchell is certainly solid. But, which of those guys, other than Kam and maybe Chase, is likely to play major minutes on a top-10 team? And, behind that 5 is a lot of unknown, limited experience, no experience, and 2 freshmen. The best case scenario is that the two freshmen can actually contribute in a meaningful way, that Hamilton is actually a player who can provide good minutes at the post, and that Lowery and Norman make a big step forward. Otherwise, it may be a bit of a let-down season.

They ALL have played major minutes on a top-10 team already.

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mugrad_89

Quote from: BrewCity83 on April 22, 2024, 12:24:16 PM
They ALL have played major minutes on a top-10 team already.

The COLE on this thread is amazing.  👀

TAMU, Knower of Ball

Quote from: BrewCity83 on April 22, 2024, 12:24:16 PM
They ALL have played major minutes on a top-10 team already.

That was my first reaction too. I don't what he defines as "major minutes" but surely Kam, Stevie, and Joplin already qualify.
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tower912

And, assuming recent predictions hold and all return and stay healthy, all will be getting major minutes on a top 15 team.

Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

Shooter McGavin

Quote from: rgoode57 on April 22, 2024, 11:57:54 AM
The prognosis for next season is very uncertain. A starting 5 of Gold, Joplin, Ross, K. Jones, and Mitchell is certainly solid. But, which of those guys, other than Kam and maybe Chase, is likely to play major minutes on a top-10 team? And, behind that 5 is a lot of unknown, limited experience, no experience, and 2 freshmen. The best case scenario is that the two freshmen can actually contribute in a meaningful way, that Hamilton is actually a player who can provide good minutes at the post, and that Lowery and Norman make a big step forward. Otherwise, it may be a bit of a let-down season.

Very similar to two years ago.  Hopefully the same result. 

MU82

Best case scenario is a national title.

Next question.
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tower912

Quote from: Shooter McGavin on April 22, 2024, 10:29:37 PM
Very similar to two years ago.  Hopefully the same result.
No one will be picking MU 9th in the Big East.   Some will be picking MU 9th in the country. 
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

muwarrior69

Quote from: WarriorFan on April 21, 2024, 08:58:32 AM
Sean just needs to come into form in time for the BET.

When you look at the turmoil and turnover in the other BEAST teams, it's hard to see how any of them will be better than MU.  Of course, some of the new free agents will gel with their teams and perform well, and other coaches will somehow create a whole that's greater than the sum of the parts.  I don't think any other team in the BEAST (the country???) has 8 guys returning and MU has 8 guys who got serious game minutes returning.

I think UCONN will still be more than competitive.

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