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Viper

Quote from: tower912 on April 13, 2024, 11:15:30 AM
Also watch the videos of his help and recovery defense.  At least as good as Otule.
hmm...I leave that one alone 👁️

tower912

Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

MuggsyB

Quote from: Viper on April 13, 2024, 10:03:26 AM
agreed on Oso. Quicker than Luke, for sure. Sam Hauser? Imo Sam is quicker than Ben. Henry and Theo too.

Yes.  Sam is significantly quicker than the three you mentioned. 

MuggsyB

Quote from: tower912 on April 13, 2024, 11:37:22 AM
I feel attacked.

I'm constantly attacked.  Shake it off Tower.  :)

tower912

I will grudgingly concede a healthy Sam, but not Joey.
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

tower912

Quote from: MuggsyB on April 13, 2024, 11:41:57 AM
I'm constantly attacked.  Shake it off Tower.  :)

I am constantly disagreed with.   Like I care.
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

TAMU, Knower of Ball

Quote from: Viper on April 13, 2024, 10:03:26 AM
agreed on Oso. Quicker than Luke, for sure. Sam Hauser? Imo Sam is quicker than Ben. Henry and Theo too.

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willie warrior

Quote from: MuggsyB on April 13, 2024, 11:40:48 AM
Yes.  Sam is significantly quicker than the three you mentioned.

Sam also is a significant upgrade from Gooollldbrick.
I thought you were dead. Willie lives rent free in Reekers mind.

Uncle Rico

Quote from: willie warrior on April 13, 2024, 01:00:57 PM
Sam also is a significant upgrade from Gooollldbrick.

Not as good as Ramsey
Maybe. But will Creighton and St. John's?
They look like the class of league right now. Have not seen Johnnies play, but Creighton looks awesome.

MU82

Quote from: tower912 on April 13, 2024, 11:43:11 AM
I am constantly disagreed with.   Like I care.

You are not. And you do care.
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

tower912

I don't have obsessed stalkers like you and Sultan.
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

TSmith34, Inc.

Quote from: willie warrior on April 13, 2024, 01:00:57 PM
Sam also is a significant upgrade from Gooollldbrick.
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Viper

Quote from: willie warrior on April 13, 2024, 01:00:57 PM
Sam also is a significant upgrade from Gooollldbrick.
100%. I do think, however,  Gold is more consistent, more impactful, next season. If, for no other reason, good health from the get-go.

MU82

A couple of Scoopers opined that Gold is quicker than Sam was. I happen to disagree but it's not really possible for anyone to know for sure.

But I haven't seen a Scooper say that Gold is better than Sam was at Marquette. And for obvious reasons - Sam was a consistently good player who was able to parlay his elite shooting ability into an NBA career.
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

MuggsyB

Quote from: MU82 on April 14, 2024, 05:30:47 PM
A couple of Scoopers opined that Gold is quicker than Sam was. I happen to disagree but it's not really possible for anyone to know for sure.

But I haven't seen a Scooper say that Gold is better than Sam was at Marquette. And for obvious reasons - Sam was a consistently good player who was able to parlay his elite shooting ability into an NBA career.

Maybe Sam improved his quicks after he left MU but he always had a pretty good 1st step.  Benny does as well.  It's also conceivable that that Sam rarely displayed his quickness off the dribble because of incompetent coaching/tutelage. 

Ben has a lot of talent with great size. Hopefully he can put it all together in '24-25. 

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Ben Gold is 6-11, 245.  He is plenty quick for his size.  He's just not freakishly fast like Oso.

tower912

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Exactly.    And he has the athleticism to be projected as both a national team rugby player and an Olympic athlete prior to him growing to 6'11.    I said earlier in the year that he just needs (A) to knock an opponent on their a$$, or (B) a swift kick in the butt from the coaches.     He has all the athleticism he needs and has shown flashes of it.     Next season, he needs confidence.    He needs to know that he is the man and that no other 6'11 player can do what he does.    And then go do it night in and night out.   
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

MuggsyB

Quote from: tower912 on April 14, 2024, 06:18:27 PM
Exactly.    And he has the athleticism to be projected as both a national team rugby player and an Olympic athlete prior to him growing to 6'11.    I said earlier in the year that he just needs (A) to knock an opponent on their a$$, or (B) a swift kick in the butt from the coaches.     He has all the athleticism he needs and has shown flashes of it.     Next season, he need confidence.    He needs to know that he is the man and that no other 6'11 player can do what he does.    And then go do it night in and night out.

Exactly right.  This is why I reiterate attacking with fury.  Ben has the goods.  It's time for the young man to play with relentless force and confidence. Hopefully he gains a little muscle. 

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