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Tyler COLEk

Quote from: brewcity77 on March 29, 2024, 09:05:44 PM
The execution was awful. And that's not mentioning Oso bobbling every entry or blowing bunnies.

What was the deal with Oso's hands during the tournament? Very uncharacteristic. His set of performances in general were strange. It really leads me to believe there's a significant injury, but didn't see any clear physical issues on the court.

Uncle Rico

Quote from: lawdog77 on March 29, 2024, 09:12:14 PM
not shoot 31 3s

So, Marquette had the 15th best effective offensive FG% this year. They entered tonight with the nations 19th most efficient offense. 59th in the nation in 3 pt. shooting.

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warriors141

Quote from: Tyler COLEk on March 29, 2024, 09:13:15 PM
What was the deal with Oso's hands during the tournament? Very uncharacteristic. His set of performances in general were strange. It really leads me to believe there's a significant injury, but didn't see any clear physical issues on the court.

he never really seemed to have that absolute killer instinct , and then took that to another level in the tournament

NCMUFan

Quote from: The Sultan of Semantics on March 29, 2024, 07:57:36 PM
I really don't know what Shaka can do here. They have had so many wide open looks and they just aren't falling. They have gotten tight and it's just snowballed.
They need to get a better team game psychiatrist.

Uncle Rico

Quote from: NCMUFan on March 29, 2024, 09:16:37 PM
They need to get a better team game psychiatrist.

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Quote from: NCMUFan on March 29, 2024, 09:16:37 PM
They need to get a better team game psychiatrist.

Unironically, I think this is important. Judging the limited footage/writing available about him, their present consultant isn't very impressive. Especially with Shaka's extreme emphasis on relationships and culture, this team needs serious resources around mental skills.

MarquetteMike1977


Mu8891

Oso played awful basketball....

And, frankly... he seemed to not be at all intense or interested really

warriors141

Quote from: Mu8891 on March 29, 2024, 09:24:49 PM
Oso played awful basketball....

And, frankly... he seemed to not be at all intense or interested really

according to shaka no injury for oso..........I have no idea what happened with him, horrible end to a great career

Tyler COLEk

Quote from: warriors141 on March 29, 2024, 09:39:52 PM
according to shaka no injury for oso..........I have no idea what happened with him, horrible end to a great career

That really hurts to hear. He had a real opportunity to pump his draft stock.

NickelDimer

Quote from: warriors141 on March 29, 2024, 09:39:52 PM
according to shaka no injury for oso..........I have no idea what happened with him, horrible end to a great career
I said after the Colorado game it looked way more mental than physical.
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MU_Beav

Quote from: 1SE on March 29, 2024, 07:44:28 PM
At some point it becomes a feature, not a bug. Three tournaments, three games where the team is just completely not ready to play. How the f*ck was no one ready to play.

complete trash, take.

MDMU04

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DoctorV

Quote from: Tyler COLEk on March 29, 2024, 09:23:25 PM
Unironically, I think this is important. Judging the limited footage/writing available about him, their present consultant isn't very impressive. Especially with Shaka's extreme emphasis on relationships and culture, this team needs serious resources around mental skills.

Shaka, more than the guys, needs a good one.

Don't take this as a slight, because he's incredible for this program.

There's no doubt in my mind that he doesn't want to acknowledge that there is an issue when it comes to the big game that he himself has to overcome.
He was asked about it and gave a complete non-confront answer. Not normal for a genius of his candor.

This team is a reflection of its main guy, its father.
They are a reflection during the good, and also during the bad.

He can't go out there and take the shots, and he's orchestrated tons of massive second half comebacks, but those were a product of extremely tight or poor played first halves.

Shaka changes during the dance. He likely doesn't realize it, but he does, and it affects his team.
When you reach Mt Olympus as a youth the fall is massive and the climb back up can be steep as heck.

He just needs one good bounce, one moment of brilliant, one individual to carry him thru and the gates will hopefully open up.
I was hoping Tyler was that guy.
Maybe next year.

cheebs09

Quote from: brewcity77 on March 29, 2024, 09:05:44 PM
We held them to 0.97 PPP on the game. Missed what, 20 unguarded threes? The game plan was fine. The execution was awful. And that's not mentioning Oso bobbling every entry or blowing bunnies.

If we play bad, we beat them by double digits. Coaching wasn't the problem. Not even remotely.

Just saw Chuck on the halftime show talking about how bad our defense was. All the highlights showed them hitting some pretty tough shots. If we hit our average, it's a pretty comfortable win.

Norm

I like Shaka, but his teams play too tight in the NCAAs. Happened again today. He also had a bad defensive strategy in the first half of doubling Burns which backfired and got MU in a double digit hole.

For those mentioning him changing his approach in the post season, I thought that watching him shorten the bench to just Chase and single minutes for Ben the last two games. Why essentially bench Tre and Zaide when they both contributed down the stretch? 

And I wish Shaka would use time outs quicker to stem other teams' runs. He didn't even use two time outs today. What was he saving them for?

Glad we made the Sweet 16, but painful to lose to another double digit seed as a 2 seed.

brewcity77

Quote from: cheebs09 on March 29, 2024, 10:03:29 PM
Just saw Chuck on the halftime show talking about how bad our defense was. All the highlights showed them hitting some pretty tough shots. If we hit our average, it's a pretty comfortable win.

Chuck is there for entertainment value, not smart analysis.

Our defense was okay (not great) in the first and excellent in the second. It was all about our offense missing shots. Only reason we lost.

Efficient Frontier

Quote from: 1SE on March 29, 2024, 07:44:28 PM
At some point it becomes a feature, not a bug. Three tournaments, three games where the team is just completely not ready to play. How the f*ck was no one ready to play.
Great point. Let's fire Shaka and see if we can lure Gard away from UW.

1SE

The slurp mindset on this board is unreal.

Nowhere have I insinuated anything remotely to the effect that Shaka should be fired at any point on the horizon. To the contrary, I'm so thrilled w him in most aspects of his job that I started the lifetime contract thread (and if you don't realize all of these have a touch of teal I don't know what to say...)

But my enthusiasm for Shaka is predicated on all the good things he's doing bringing us March success. Because, frankly, that's all that matters to me in terms of MUBB outcomes. I mean all things equal, I'd rather win a natty w a team built "the right way" but you're kidding yourself if you think you won't be happy w a natty secured w 5 NIL mercenaries.

If you can't admit that Shaka has not yet shown that he can again perform to a high level in the NCAAT IDK what to say. It's OK to admit that they guy we all really like has a major flaw.

Will he overcome it? Maybe. Hopefully. But he hasnt yet. He'll need to to be a forever coach. To be a Wright, or Few or K.

The good news is we'll probably get a chance to see again soon. But these NCAAT results after all the great stuff that got us two 2 seeds in 2 years - 2-2-2 - make me ill.
Real Warriors Demand Excellence

TSmith34, Inc.

Quote from: lawdog77 on March 29, 2024, 09:12:14 PM
not shoot miss 31 27 3s
Really, it goes back to Tower's first point in the game summary.

So, so many of the threes were exactly want we wanted, wide open and uncontested. We missed. Like, historically badly missed.

Kam had what I think most would consider a below average to poor shooting night; if the entire team shot like Kam, we're playing on Sunday.

We were for the most part fine defensively. NCST did hit some clutch, contested, late clock gut punches, but overall giving up 67 points is fine. All MU needed was a D+ game on offense and we didn't get even that.
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brewcity77

Quote from: 1SE on March 30, 2024, 03:28:37 AMWill he overcome it? Maybe. Hopefully. But he hasnt yet. He'll need to to be a forever coach. To be a Wright, or Few or K.

It took Wright 15 years to win a title at Villanova. It took K 11 years at Duke (and fans wanted him out after year 3). Few still hasn't won a title in 25 years.

It might be a tad premature to assume Shaka can't win bigger than this.

willie warrior

Quote from: PointWarrior on March 29, 2024, 08:36:11 PM
dumb thread...   Shaka does need to recruit more accurate shooters.
And a bruising big, a pg, and at least 2 big time wing shooters, given what is projected to come back next year. Is he up to that task?
I thought you were dead. Willie lives rent free in Reekers mind. Rick Pitino: "You can either complain or adapt."

statnik

Quote from: Elonsmusk on March 29, 2024, 08:03:35 PM
Bro. The team is 3 for 24 from 3. The fug Ahaka to do about that?

It happened last year when we shot pretty decently from 3 too.  It's a fair point that his teams seem to have brutal games come in at the worst time in these NCAAs.

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