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BM1090

Quote from: The Lens on July 08, 2024, 01:06:31 PM
I think everyone severly underestimated the seriousness of the 2019 injury.  He's finally trusting his body again.  Last year seemed like he was 80-85% of the way back.  If you look at it, it's easy to see...

2019, Injury ruined MVP year
2020, shortened season bc of rehab + Covid
2021, Slashed .248 / .362 / .373 (50% back...played in 117 games)
2022, Slashed .252 / .355 / .383   (65% back...played in 154 games)
2023, Slashed .278 / .370 / .447 (80% back...played in 144 games)
2024, Slashing.329 / .407 / .533 (100% back and starting in ASG)

Maybe he is doping. I have no way to know but it is clear that his late '19 injury was devestating.

Yeah and it wasn't just production. His swing looked off. He was rolling over everything. Wasn't using the whole field. His power never left him but his ability to make consistent solid contact left for awhile. When he connected, he hit a ton of absolute missiles.

MUfan12

Quote from: BM1090 on July 08, 2024, 04:01:18 PM
Yeah and it wasn't just production. His swing looked off. He was rolling over everything. Wasn't using the whole field. His power never left him but his ability to make consistent solid contact left for awhile. When he connected, he hit a ton of absolute missiles.

To my uneducated eye, it looked like he was bailing out with the right foot after the injury. Maybe trying to subconsciously protect it? He couldn't pull the ball with any sort of power.

jficke13

Quote from: MUfan12 on July 08, 2024, 04:09:24 PM
To my uneducated eye, it looked like he was bailing out with the right foot after the injury. Maybe trying to subconsciously protect it? He couldn't pull the ball with any sort of power.

100%. Not exactly the same, but his swing began to resemble the fall-away slap style of the high-contact Japanese hitters. It was a terrible mismatch to his body and talent, but he was clearly not trusting keeping his weight in the box.

rocket surgeon

Quote from: Uncle Rico on July 06, 2024, 06:36:15 AM
I doubt it.  He's Catholic


  oh God oh God, Jesus yes yes yes oh God...

can be really Catholic and naughty at same time
felz Houston ate uncle boozie's hands

cheebs09

Quote from: rocket surgeon on July 08, 2024, 09:39:14 PM

  oh God oh God, Jesus yes yes yes oh God...

can be really Catholic and naughty at same time






Uncle Rico

Quote from: rocket surgeon on July 08, 2024, 09:39:14 PM

  oh God oh God, Jesus yes yes yes oh God...

can be really Catholic and naughty at same time

Then he's going to hell
Guster is for Lovers

MU82

Quote from: rocket surgeon on July 08, 2024, 09:39:14 PM

  oh God oh God, Jesus yes yes yes oh God...

can be really Catholic and naughty at same time

But enough imitations of priests with their alter boys.
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

The Lens

Quote from: MUfan12 on July 08, 2024, 04:09:24 PM
To my uneducated eye, it looked like he was bailing out with the right foot after the injury. Maybe trying to subconsciously protect it? He couldn't pull the ball with any sort of power.

I do think trust was the issue. He would bail on his swing but when forced to run (He had 4 triples in 2023) he would intinctively fly. 
The Teal Train has left the station and Lens is day drinking in the bar car.    ---- Dr. Blackheart

History is so valuable if you have the humility to learn from it.    ---- Shaka Smart


PGsHeroes32

With López sweeper being mia this year and ruining his results to metrics, I'll sound more like a biased twins fan


But is there a more overrated player by casual fans than Luis Arraez?

Wooof. Guy currently is a borderline awful player but an all star and loved on twitter
Lazar picking up where the BIG 3 left off....

Uncle Rico

Quote from: PGsHeroes32 on July 10, 2024, 01:01:33 PM
With López sweeper being mia this year and ruining his results to metrics, I'll sound more like a biased twins fan


But is there a more overrated player by casual fans than Luis Arraez?

Wooof. Guy currently is a borderline awful player but an all star and loved on twitter

He's fine and overrated.  Definitely shouldn't be an all-star over Brice Turang
Guster is for Lovers

JWags85

Quote from: PGsHeroes32 on July 10, 2024, 01:01:33 PM
With López sweeper being mia this year and ruining his results to metrics, I'll sound more like a biased twins fan


But is there a more overrated player by casual fans than Luis Arraez?

Wooof. Guy currently is a borderline awful player but an all star and loved on twitter

People are just enamored with the old ideas of baseball and obsession with average.  Ignoring all trends in modern baseball and focusing on someone hitting over .300, even if that person is a weak hitting singles merchant.  Even if he isn't gonna be a power hitter, but he doesn't even hit that many doubles, much less triples.

I do find it amusing that for all his high average, he's been top 10 in double plays hit into the last few years.  I think he was leading the league for a bit this year.

Pakuni

Quote from: PGsHeroes32 on July 10, 2024, 01:01:33 PM
With López sweeper being mia this year and ruining his results to metrics, I'll sound more like a biased twins fan


But is there a more overrated player by casual fans than Luis Arraez?

Wooof. Guy currently is a borderline awful player but an all star and loved on twitter

He shouldn't be an all-star this year, but he was top 10 in OPS last year with a very solid 3.5 WAR. He's good, not great.

Not all scoop users are created equal apparently

Quote from: PGsHeroes32 on July 10, 2024, 01:01:33 PM
With López sweeper being mia this year and ruining his results to metrics, I'll sound more like a biased twins fan


But is there a more overrated player by casual fans than Luis Arraez?

Wooof. Guy currently is a borderline awful player but an all star and loved on twitter

Aaron judge
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PGsHeroes32

Quote from: Pakuni on July 10, 2024, 02:34:05 PM
He shouldn't be an all-star this year, but he was top 10 in OPS last year with a very solid 3.5 WAR. He's good, not great.

The issue is he's gotta literally hit .365 to have a good OPS and to have value

He's virtually unplayable defensively but cant justify playing a guy with less power than Nick Punto at DH. His "running" is more of a waddle. No speed and metrically poor base runner(I think he still is)

Its more annoying cause people around here who still tilt about him being gone(we have literally no where to play him) are the same people who said Joe Mauer sucks. Mauer has more talent in his left nut. Mauer the "singles hitter" had 7 seasons with OPS higher than Arraez last year.
Lazar picking up where the BIG 3 left off....

PGsHeroes32

August is approaching so we know the season ending injury is coming

But Byron Buxton is back to being to being the most electric player to watch in the sport. His speed with no knees is unbelievable.
Lazar picking up where the BIG 3 left off....

Uncle Rico

Tobias Myers probably turns into a pumpkin at some point but he's been invaluable to the Crew for 3 months.

The front office can field a roster
Guster is for Lovers

MU82

From Yahoo Sports:

110 years ago today, 19-year-old Babe Ruth made his major league debut, earning the win (7 IP, 2 ER) and going 0-2 at the plate in a 4-3 Red Sox victory over Cleveland.

"He has a natural delivery, fine control and a curveball that bothers the batsmen," wrote the Boston Globe. And though he went hitless on the day, they wrote that he "shaped up like a good batsman."
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

Jockey

Quote from: MU82 on July 11, 2024, 09:44:41 AM
From Yahoo Sports:

110 years ago today, 19-year-old Babe Ruth made his major league debut, earning the win (7 IP, 2 ER) and going 0-2 at the plate in a 4-3 Red Sox victory over Cleveland.

"He has a natural delivery, fine control and a curveball that bothers the batsmen," wrote the Boston Globe. And though he went hitless on the day, they wrote that he "shaped up like a good batsman."

I'm sure he had a blazing fastball in the low 70's. Curveball maybe in the mid to upper 50s.

PGsHeroes32

Normally I don't pay much attention to ASG picks or how bad they are

Aside from clear ones like Walker being left off for Alonso strictly for derby.

So I just noticed David Fry for Guardians.

He might be the worst inclusion of all time. Sure the overall numbers were solid. But he just now hit 200 ABs. And he's been horrendous since June.

28 year old journeyman found lightning for a month and made it.
Lazar picking up where the BIG 3 left off....

PGsHeroes32

Lazar picking up where the BIG 3 left off....

wadesworld

Skenes with 10 Ks, 0 hits given up through 5 innings.  He's decent I guess.

Just hope the Brewers fanbase is as good as the Cardinals' and give him a standing O whenever his outing ends.  Well deserved.

MUfan12

Civale was great today too. Skenes is a total freak though.

MUBurrow

#423
Brewers also doing their damndest to help Skenes get his no hitter - top/heart of the order saw a total of seven pitches in the 6th and six pitches in the 7th.

Uncle Rico

Quote from: MUBurrow on July 11, 2024, 03:06:24 PM
Brewers also doing their damndest to help Skenes get his no hitter - top/heart of the order saw a total of seven pitches in the 6th and six pitches in the 7th.

Brutal approaches.
Guster is for Lovers

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