MLB 2024 Season

[MUBurrow]

Devin has loved traffic all season. He's gotten away with it because balls haven't left the yard and he strikes guys out. Both went wrong today and seasons over. I was very surprised to see Freddy and don't think he was ever a two inning option. Sucks but nothing to second guess.

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

Chourio doesn't flub a routine flyball and Payamps doesn't forget to cover first base on a routine groundball and we likely don't even need a third game.

It's the Brewers, when we get to the postseason, our strengths become our weaknesses and it costs us.

[Hards Alumni]

October in Milwaukee always means disappointment.  Axford, Hader, and now Williams.

I'd hate to be a closer in Milwaukee with the season on the line.

Additionally, I detest that there is a 164 game season that can boil down to a three game series.

[4everwarriors]

Peddle Williams' ass, aina?

[PGsHeroes32]

October in Milwaukee always means disappointment.  Axford, Hader, and now Williams.

I'd hate to be a closer in Milwaukee with the season on the line.

Additionally, I detest that there is a 164 game season that can boil down to a three game series.

Well, how do you feel about 162 game season?

[Uncle Rico]

October in Milwaukee always means disappointment.  Axford, Hader, and now Williams.

I'd hate to be a closer in Milwaukee with the season on the line.

Additionally, I detest that there is a 164 game season that can boil down to a three game series.

Don't forget Jeffress in '18 serving up a meatball in game 2 of the NLCS.

[Hards Alumni]

Well, how do you feel about 162 game season?

Well, I feel like that'd be the correct number.

I somehow added the NBA number of games and multiplied by two 

[Jockey]

Jockey - I think you asked a question - Peralta or Williams? But if you offered an opinion I missed it.

I wasn't clear enough. I wanted the guy who was throwing strikes. My worry with Williams is that he sometimes has a hard time finding the plate.


My posts weren't Meant as a criticism, though. Murph did what he was expected to do.

[Uncle Rico]

I wasn't clear enough. I wanted the guy who was throwing strikes. My worry with Williams is that he sometimes has a hard time finding the plate.


My posts weren't Meant as a criticism, though. Murph did what he was expected to do.

Correct, but like you, had serious doubts about the move.  When he walked Lindor after jumping ahead of him, the die was cast

[Its DJOver]

Williams is getting a lot of the blame, and deservedly so, but Contreras batting .167, Adames .182, and Hoskins .000 certainly did not help. These are your veteran leading sitting in the heart of the order. That's gotta be better.

[Verypolitical Warrior]

Williams is getting a lot of the blame, and deservedly so, but Contreras batting .167, Adames .182, and Hoskins .000 certainly did not help. These are your veteran leading sitting in the heart of the order. That's gotta be better.

If those are the 'stars' you're always going to be in trouble. Contreras is great, and Adames has been the heartbeat, but he also had a career year that never felt sustainable. Hoskins is terrible and shouldn't be in this clubhouse if you need to attach compensation to do it.

Nothing will change. Need an ownership group that isn't content with this exact outcome.

[cheebs09]

Williams is getting a lot of the blame, and deservedly so, but Contreras batting .167, Adames .182, and Hoskins .000 certainly did not help. These are your veteran leading sitting in the heart of the order. That's gotta be better.

Yeah, there were some opportunities earlier in the game to get some runs across that didn't happen.

I thought going to Freddy in the 8th was WAY more questionable than Williams in the 9th. Granted, it was two very different outcomes, but I always feel bringing a starter in a high leverage position is a risk.

It doesn't sound like it was a bad pitch (my seats were a ways away). A few millimeters either way on the bat and it's probably an easy out. Just another heartbreaking loss.

[Its DJOver]

If those are the 'stars' you're always going to be in trouble. Contreras is great, and Adames has been the heartbeat, but he also had a career year that never felt sustainable. Hoskins is terrible and shouldn't be in this clubhouse if you need to attach compensation to do it.

Nothing will change. Need an ownership group that isn't content with this exact outcome.

Willy did go 4-7 against the snakes in the 2 games last year, so a part of it is just sample size.  That being said, and as much as I've loved him here, I'm glad that someone is going to WAY overpay him so the Crew don't normal overpay him.

The disappointing thing about Contreras was how bad his at bats looked.  Looked like you could have given him 6 strikes per AB and gotten the same outcome, very undisciplined. 

[MUfan12]

I thought going to Freddy in the 8th was WAY more questionable than Williams in the 9th. Granted, it was two very different outcomes, but I always feel bringing a starter in a high leverage position is a risk.

With ya. As critical as I have been on his bullpen management, I thought Murphy managed a great ballgame last night. Just didn't work out.

Peddle Williams' ass, aina?

Have to. And not because of last night. Megill proved he could handle the closing duties. Uribe will be back. Gotta get something back for Devin before he walks in FA.

[JWags85]

I think the job of a closer has gotten infinitely harder these days, especially in the playoffs.  Feels like the vast majority of closers are beholden to plus level fastballs.  With the trend towards some version of 3 outcome hitting, a lot of these hitters are sitting fastball, especially against a guy who wants to chuck gas.  So unless the closer has a wipeout slider thats working, you get a hitter waiting on that pitch and hitters have gotten REALLY good and have a ton of tools for study.

I think thats why you see so many good closers struggle lately in the playoffs.  Hader, Williams, Chapman, Kimbrel, etc...They will get smacked in pressure points in the playoffs and then be an All Star the next year,  so its not like they are just washed

[wadesworld]

The idea that the Brewers need new ownership is nuts.  The first baseball season of my life was the 1989 season.  Through the time he bought the team ahead of the 2005 season, I hadn't seen a Playoff game by the Brewers once in my lifetime.  They've been in the post season 6 of the last 7 years, and have won the division in 4 of the last 7 years.

In a sport with no salary cap, the Brewers have found a way to consistently compete while playing in the smallest market in the sport.  The NL Playoffs consisted of teams from LA, San Diego, Philadelphia, New York, Atlanta, and...Milwaukee.

I, for one, am thrilled Mark took over the team.  I guess some long for the days of Bud Selig.

[tower912]

Tigers, Foley has been mostly solid, a few hiccups.   Game 1 against Houston, not sharp.  It easily could have turned out like game 3 for the Brewers.  Detroit was fortunate the game ending line drive was right at Torkelson, and not a couple of feet to either side.   Foley did not pitch in game 2.   
   Those are the razors edges in playoff baseball.  And Detroit has had a ridiculous amount of fortuitous events over the last two months.

[wadesworld]

I think the job of a closer has gotten infinitely harder these days, especially in the playoffs.  Feels like the vast majority of closers are beholden to plus level fastballs.  With the trend towards some version of 3 outcome hitting, a lot of these hitters are sitting fastball, especially against a guy who wants to chuck gas.  So unless the closer has a wipeout slider thats working, you get a hitter waiting on that pitch and hitters have gotten REALLY good and have a ton of tools for study.

I think thats why you see so many good closers struggle lately in the playoffs.  Hader, Williams, Chapman, Kimbrel, etc...They will get smacked in pressure points in the playoffs and then be an All Star the next year,  so its not like they are just washed

This.  Williams thrives on getting hitters out in front on his changeup that dives out of the zone.  Come Playoff time, hitters just let the off speed stuff go and sit on heat, which Williams has to throw when he falls behind in the count.

[tower912]

Plus, if you are in the playoffs, you are a pretty good team that has won a lot of games.   Probably not by accident.

[wadesworld]

Plus, if you are in the playoffs, you are a pretty good team that has won a lot of games.   Probably not by accident.

Yup.  The Brewers had legitimate WS hopes in 2011 and especially 2018.  But 2020 was probably the only year they didn't "deserve" to be in the Playoffs.  Every other year you make it and you see what happens.

[tower912]

And the opponent is good, too.

[wadesworld]

I'm not sure what more this ownership/FO can do.  They don't print money like the Yankees, Dodgers, etc.  There is no salary cap like every other professional sport.  When they see an opening to go for it, they do (trading for CC in 2008, Greinke and Hairston in 2011, Moustakas and Schoop in 2018, Adames in 2021).

What are Brewers fans hoping for in an owner?  A $250+M payroll?  Because that's not happening.

We can all play fantasy baseball.  It would be awesome if I could take over the Brewers and sign Trever Bauer and Walker Buehler to 1 year prove it deals going into next year, hope Brandon Woodruff magically recovers from major shoulder surgery, overpay Adames to stay in Milwaukee, and overpay a power hitting first baseman.  But that's not the reality of the smallest market team in a sport with no salary cap.

[Hards Alumni]

The idea that the Brewers need new ownership is nuts.  The first baseball season of my life was the 1989 season.  Through the time he bought the team ahead of the 2005 season, I hadn't seen a Playoff game by the Brewers once in my lifetime.  They've been in the post season 6 of the last 7 years, and have won the division in 4 of the last 7 years.

In a sport with no salary cap, the Brewers have found a way to consistently compete while playing in the smallest market in the sport.  The NL Playoffs consisted of teams from LA, San Diego, Philadelphia, New York, Atlanta, and...Milwaukee.

I, for one, am thrilled Mark took over the team.  I guess some long for the days of Bud Selig.

Correct take.  Additionally, if Mark sells, there is a decent chance there are no more Milwaukee Brewers.

[Uncle Rico]

I'm not sure what more this ownership/FO can do.  They don't print money like the Yankees, Dodgers, etc.  There is no salary cap like every other professional sport.  When they see an opening to go for it, they do (trading for CC in 2008, Greinke and Hairston in 2011, Moustakas and Schoop in 2018, Adames in 2021).

What are Brewers fans hoping for in an owner?  A $250+M payroll?  Because that's not happening.

We can all play fantasy baseball.  It would be awesome if I could take over the Brewers and sign Trever Bauer and Walker Buehler to 1 year prove it deals going into next year, hope Brandon Woodruff magically recovers from major shoulder surgery, overpay Adames to stay in Milwaukee, and overpay a power hitting first baseman.  But that's not the reality of the smallest market team in a sport with no salary cap.

Bingo.  This world we live in where Attanasio isn't trying is BS.  They've invested in Latin America like very few other clubs and their minor league development is amongst the best in baseball.

All that said, next year is a year they should be "all-in" like they were in '18 and '19.  The system is deep enough they can go after an available bat or two. 

I'm not worried about adding an ace.  Those days are antiquated and silly.  They identify pitching as well as any organization

[Uncle Rico]

Correct take.  Additionally, if Mark sells, there is a decent chance there are no more Milwaukee Brewers.

Eh.  Any new owner is stuck in Milwaukee for awhile with the new stadium deal they agreed to.