Lifetime Contract Extension

[MU82]

Shaka is perfect for Marquette and vice versa. He's seen the other side. I'm gonna be Mr. Optimist and say he ain't going anywhere - whether or not he gets a "lifetime" contract (which would mean diddly-squat).

[Tyler COLEk]

Crean says hi (or says Bye)

I almost included: particularly coaches who have already had a taste of a blue blood and don't seem to aspire to get back there. I think the throwback, four-year retention strategy has Shaka has built at Marquette doesn't fit at blue bloods.

[Galway Eagle]

I almost included: particularly coaches who have already had a taste of a blue blood and don't seem to aspire to get back there. I think the throwback, four-year retention strategy has Shaka has built at Marquette doesn't fit at blue bloods.

I don't think Shakas leaving unless he doesn't get along with the new Pres or AD.

That said Texas isn't exactly a blue blood, they're closer to us than Nova in terms of Tradition let alone Duke KU UK UNC etc. So if Shaka truly wanted a taste of that experience I don't think Texas would've quenched that thirst.

[THRILLHO]

We've all seen so called "lifetime" contracts are easy for either side to get out of, so I wouldn't recommend that. What I do recommend is an eternal contract, binding the university to the coach past the lifetime of either, until the heat death of the universe.

[Newsdreams]

We've all seen so called "lifetime" contracts are easy for either side to get out of, so I wouldn't recommend that. What I do recommend is an eternal contract, binding the university to the coach past the lifetime of either, until the heat death of the universe.

A Herman contract

[GoldenEagles03]

Shaka is perfect for Marquette and vice versa. He's seen the other side. I'm gonna be Mr. Optimist and say he ain't going anywhere - whether or not he gets a "lifetime" contract (which would mean diddly-squat).

I know life happens and this is just a talking point, but I genuinely can't think of a better marriage of coach and program.

I would hope Shaka feels the same and recognizes he can continue to win forever here.

[jfp61]

IMO. This is mostly speculation. But i expect shaka stays at marquette for nearly all or nearly the rest of his career, until shaka decides to retire. But I expect Shaka to retire at a "young" age relative to other basketball coaches, mostly because he has already been doing this for so long.

[MU82]

I don't think Shakas leaving unless he doesn't get along with the new Pres or AD.

That said Texas isn't exactly a blue blood, they're closer to us than Nova in terms of Tradition let alone Duke KU UK UNC etc. So if Shaka truly wanted a taste of that experience I don't think Texas would've quenched that thirst.

No, Texas isn't a basketball blue blood, but it is a big-time, big-bucks, big-pressure school in what was then the #1 basketball conference. Shaka felt pressure to recruit 1-and-dones and other big-name players - guys the blue bloods really wanted and guys who didn't always buy into the team game.

He couldn't coach there the way he really wanted to. It might as well have been a blue blood.

[wadesworld]

A fun(ny) read.

[Badgerhater]

What was interesting were comments from all the people who no longer post here.

[#UnleashMalik]

Oh

[GoldenEagles03]

I know life happens and this is just a talking point, but I genuinely can't think of a better marriage of coach and program.

I would hope Shaka feels the same and recognizes he can continue to win forever here.

Still feel the exact same. I hope be recognizes that this is a place he can win big at for a long time. That will come with an occasional talent replenishment from the portal like we need this offseason.

I'd love for him to become synonymous with Marquette like Mark Few has become with Gonzaga or Izzo with Michigan State or Matt Painter with Purdue, etc. Because that would mean a whole bunch of winning here just like he's done so far.

[Farley36]

Still feel the exact same. I hope be recognizes that this is a place he can win big at for a long time. That will come with an occasional talent replenishment from the portal like we need this offseason.

I'd love for him to become synonymous with Marquette like Mark Few has become with Gonzaga or Izzo with Michigan State or Matt Painter with Purdue, etc. Because that would mean a whole bunch of winning here just like he's done so far.

Only if he hires Wojo to do the recruiting.

[GOO]

Still feel the exact same. I hope be recognizes that this is a place he can win big at for a long time. That will come with an occasional talent replenishment from the portal like we need this offseason.

I'd love for him to become synonymous with Marquette like Mark Few has become with Gonzaga or Izzo with Michigan State or Matt Painter with Purdue, etc. Because that would mean a whole bunch of winning here just like he's done so far.


A sane and very well stated post.  Thanks you!

I should end my post here as it said it well. The number of crybabies and entitled people is somewhat amazing to me. And yes, I realize we have some long term trolls on here who are allowed to continue to post and some with entitled  reactive baby views over and over.

Portal or no portal there will be down years with every team. even the most successful and biggest best funded teams. We should not be trying to compete the same way as everyone else. Patience is needed. Let the system work and adjust. But let's not be the same as everyone or we will be meddling for eternity.

There will be some adjustments and learning, but I like the general approach of Shaka. Looking forward to the future and having Shaka for a long time, long time, and hopefully he feels the same way. He and the players represent the school well. That matters aas well. A duel mandate at Marquette.

[Jay Bee]

I'd love for him to become synonymous with Marquette like Mark Few has become with Gonzaga or Izzo with Michigan State or Matt Painter with Purdue, etc. Because that would mean a whole bunch of winning here just like he's done so far.

Yes. Pretty much Shaka is the same guy as Few, whose only year not dancing was the covid-shortened season. His down years look like Shaka's best years. C'mon now.

This year is so bad I don't know if he can come back from it.

[Shooter McGavin]

Goo,  again,  this is no normal down year.  People won't show up to see this.  You have to understand how bad this product is.  I agree that Shaka is theoretically the right person for the job long term but he must get better recruiters as assistants and use the portal effectively.

It's not about whiners and babies as you say.  It's about $$$!!! And it's about players.  Players who thought they were being recruited to a top 25 type team.  Freshman and sophomores who will jump ship not because of RGV but because they came to MU to compete at the highest level and have been completely let down.  Will be some interesting Christmas dinners this year with players families.

Down years are acceptable.  Destroying the program is unacceptable. Shaka did not hit a speed bump, he smashed the car into a brick wall. When it is this bad there is a chance things unravel quickly.

Lord knows we would all take a .500 reword right now.  Hopefully, Shaka turns it around quickly.  GREAT representative of the school,  This offseason will be telling. 

[wadesworld]

Texas went 11-22 in Shaka's second year at Texas and made the Tournament in year 3.

[Shooter McGavin]

Texas went 11-22 in Shaka's second year at Texas and made the Tournament in year 3.

Best case scenario.  Hope you are right Wades. Shaka will need to pivot to get there. 

The recipe? Prevent the redshirts, freshman and sophomores from getting disheartened and leaving.  Use the portal for 2-3 effective players.  To do this he will have to abandon 25% of his RGV model.  I think this is reasonable.  Will he?  This offseason will be interesting. 

[Silkk the Shaka]

Texas went 11-22 in Shaka's second year at Texas and made the Tournament in year 3.

11-22 but #70 KenPom, they ran into B12 buzzsaw so the record looked worse than the actual quality of the team. Lot of close losses to tournament teams on the road.

This year we're hovering around #200 in computer rankings that don't factor in pre-season projections, getting our doors blown off by anyone of quality and getting taken to OT at home by the likes of Valpo. He has a lot more wood to chop in this circumstance. Let's hope he can get it done.

[MuggsyB]

Yes. Pretty much Shaka is the same guy as Few, whose only year not dancing was the covid-shortened season. His down years look like Shaka's best years. C'mon now.

This year is so bad I don't know if he can come back from it.

I think how truly awful this team is right now is shocking and yes, can change the equation.  If we were a borderline NIT team I don't think most Scoopers would be demanding a change.  Personally, I think Shaka deserves another year to turn this around.  This issue for me is if we simply run it back, with our returning players and recruits, I don't have a lot of hope we're going to see a team competing for an NCAA tournament berth. I know it's painful to watch but what we actually see from our young players, and Shaka the next 18+ games, means a great deal with regards to our near future.

[mileskishnish72]

I think how truly awful this team is right now is shocking and yes, can change the equation.  If we were a borderline NIT team I don't think most Scoopers would be demanding a change.  Personally, I think Shaka deserves another year to turn this around.  This issue for me is if we simply run it back, with our returning players and recruits, I don't have a lot of hope we're going to see a team competing for an NCAA tournament berth. I know it's painful to watch but what we actually see from our young players, and Shaka the next 18+ games, means a great deal with regards to our near future.

There is no sign that the next 18 games are going to show us anything different from what we've seen thus far - and that is BAD. I'm in the camp that Shaka has earned some leeway by virtue of his results over 4 years (or, as some say, 3 and a half). This season, barring a miracle, is just a lost cause. This team is so sadly awful that I don't think Shaka deserves
"another year." I think he's is going to have to show what he's got this Spring - if he doesn't clear out the deadwood who have failed to grow and fill some needs with available quality players in the portal, then why wait to suffer through another year like this?

There will be those who will say that this goes against everything that Shaka has said and would be torpedoing his "relationships" schtick. He is a basketball coach and his job is to assemble a quality team and win basketball games. It's not rocket science. And, unlike Sean's mom, I think a coach should be judged by wins and losses.