First Jobs

[Hards Alumni]

State of New Jersey on line 1

Oh I know.

[Dickthedribbler]

There is still a location on Greenfield Ave. in West Allis, actually having their lasagna tonight.

Thanks, Billy, for re-igniting my Mama Mia's lust. When the Burleigh store closed I thought I would never again have a hunk of their signature garlic bread dripping with, make that swimming in, garlic butter. I would go to great lengths for MM garlic bread. You will hear from my cardiologist.

[lurch91]

Golf Caddy at the local country club at 15 yrs old.  No Caddy Shack memories, no Lacy Underalls, no night putting with the 15 year old daughter of the dean, and no free bowl soup for buying that hat.

[Dr. Blackheart]

Golf Caddy at the local country club at 15 yrs old.  No Caddy Shack memories, no Lacy Underalls, no night putting with the 15 year old daughter of the dean, and no free bowl soup for buying that hat.

Lacey just died, so she is under us all.

https://ew.com/cindy-morgan-dead-caddyshack-tron-actress-8423252

[BrewCity83]

Thanks, Billy, for re-igniting my Mama Mia's lust. When the Burleigh store closed I thought I would never again have a hunk of their signature garlic bread dripping with, make that swimming in, garlic butter. I would go to great lengths for MM garlic bread. You will hear from my cardiologist.

I've been missing the Mama Mia's soaked garlic bread too, until last week when we had a pizza and garlic bread at Barbiere's on Bluemound.  The garlic bread there is awesome too, very much like the old Mama Mia's!

[wadesworld]

I've been missing the Mama Mia's soaked garlic bread too, until last week when we had a pizza and garlic bread at Barbiere's on Bluemound.  The garlic bread there is awesome too, very much like the old Mama Mia's!

I was going to say this, but it's been so long since I've had Mama Mia's so I wasn't as confident that I was remembering it correctly.

Barbiere's is awesome.  Definitely one of my favorite pizzas in Milwaukee, if not my favorite.

[pbiflyer]

Lacey just died, so she is under us all.

https://ew.com/cindy-morgan-dead-caddyshack-tron-actress-8423252

Damn, who knew I lived so close to Lacy!

[Goose]

BrewCity

Have you ever had the butter lovers garlic bread at Barbiere's? It is absolutely fantastic.

[muwarrior69]

Yeah, that $800 would pay for a semester at MU, back in the day. Impossible, now, for students to make anywhere near tuition for the semester, at their summer job, hey?

Not to mention a degree that actually had value and purchasing power.

[4everwarriors]

Pretty sure der ain't know Mama Mia's in The Quon, hey?

[The Sultan]

Yeah, that $800 would pay for a semester at MU, back in the day. Impossible, now, for students to make anywhere near tuition for the semester, at their summer job, hey?

The good news is that in real terms, college tuition is about the same as it was a decade ago, and will likely continue to decrease.  Less students and a good economy is turning it into a buyer's market.  This chart just shows list price at public institutions, but I would guess about 90% of private schools are charging less net tuition in real terms than they were a decade ago.

Not to mention a degree that actually had value and purchasing power.

I mean...

https://www.ssa.gov/policy/docs/research-summaries/education-earnings.html

[Scoop Snoop]

The good news is that in real terms, college tuition is about the same as it was a decade ago, and will likely continue to decrease.  Less students and a good economy is turning it into a buyer's market.  This chart just shows list price at public institutions, but I would guess about 90% of private schools are charging less net tuition in real terms than they were a decade ago.




I mean...

https://www.ssa.gov/policy/docs/research-summaries/education-earnings.html

I remember my semester tuition in my senior year-'69-'70- as $850, but I could be off a bit. I remember $650 my freshman year because I got a discount with 2 brothers enrolled, but again I may be slightly off. Actually, there are probably quite a few scoopers who would agree that I am slightly off. 

https://www.in2013dollars.com › us › inflation › 1970?amount=1

Using the above site as a guide (multiply 1 1970 dollar by $8.16), the $850 translates to slightly under $7,000 today.

I do not keep up with current tuition rates but would like to know how today's rates are justified (besides supply/demand). Since this is your area of expertise, I am interested in what you may offer as an explanation.

[21Jumpstreet]

Pretty sure der ain't know Mama Mia's in The Quon, hey?

Nope, not any more, Doc

[The Sultan]

I remember my semester tuition in my senior year-'69-'70- as $850, but I could be off a bit. I remember $650 my freshman year because I got a discount with 2 brothers enrolled, but again I may be slightly off. Actually, there are probably quite a few scoopers who would agree that I am slightly off. 

https://www.in2013dollars.com › us › inflation › 1970?amount=1

Using the above site as a guide (multiply 1 1970 dollar by $8.16), the $850 translates to slightly under $7,000 today.

I do not keep up with current tuition rates but would like to know how today's rates are justified (besides supply/demand). Since this is your area of expertise, I am interested in what you may offer as an explanation.

I think the biggest reason is that the earnings gap between those with a degree and those without continued to grow since your time at Marquette, and that has allowed colleges and universities to charge more because the perceived benefits were greater.  This also allowed state governments to lessen their support for public higher education, turning what was once viewed as a public good into a private one.

A prolonged period of economic stability, where unemployment continues to be near historic lows, and places of employment change or eliminate degrees for some jobs, will push these rates down further.  Not to mention that 2 year tech programs have gotten much better at development transfer agreements with four year schools that used to be a bit of a barrier a couple decades ago.

The ability to borrow money to attend probably is a factor, but I am not sure the elimination of federal dollars to do this would have had much impact on tuition. The private market would still be there.

In the next decade, you will see more colleges close as they aren't going to be able to get people to pay enough to attend. These will likely be the more poorly resourced private colleges similar to a Cardinal Stritch, mostly in the northeast and midwest.

The schools that will probably chug along just fine are the elite privates, the public flagships and the two year technical colleges. Even schools that are considered in decent shape now (comprehensive publics like UW-La Crosse, or national private colleges like Marquette) are going to have to be really nimble and listen carefully to what the marketplace is saying because going from being in good shape to being in poor shape can happen really fast.  The really good news from Marquette's perspective is that it has strong programs in allied health, engineering, business and nursing where you are seemingly always going to need a college degree and students are still willing to pay.

[Scoop Snoop]

I appreciate your detailed response. One more question/factor- religious based universities. I'm guessing that what was in my time a major "calling card"-Marquette's Jesuit/Catholic identity- is not a significant reason for many of MU's current and future students to be at MU.

[tower912]

It is still talked about.   The commercials.  The print media my high school junior receives features it prominently.  What percentage of modern high schoolers or their parents will MU's Jesuit foundation matter/appeal to?

[The Sultan]

I appreciate your detailed response. One more question/factor- religious based universities. I'm guessing that what was in my time a major "calling card"-Marquette's Jesuit/Catholic identity- is not a significant reason for many of MU's current and future students to be at MU.

I don't think religious affiliation matters nearly as much as it used to, but I think it still matters as tower points out.

[rocky_warrior]

Not that it's unusual, but this thread is off the rails in a direction I wouldn't have expected.

Paper boy.  Though if we're talking jobs that I didn't have to go door to door to collect my own income, carpet store grunt.

[Jay Bee]

I got a second job in HS — McDonald's. I thought it was great. I mostly did drive through order / cash taking. Hung out with kids my age (from a diff HS), worked hard but had a lot of fun.

Fajitas were great. Unlimited pop. Almost all meal deals were $2.99. Bring that back.

[BrewCity83]

BrewCity

Have you ever had the butter lovers garlic bread at Barbiere's? It is absolutely fantastic.

Goose, the garlic bread I had at Barbiere's last week was very buttery and was fantastic, but I don't think we ordered "butter lovers", we just asked for garlic bread.  Do they actually have more than the one type?

[Goose]

BrewCity

The butter lovers are them slicing the garlic bread into two thin slices, rather than the thicker style. Rick Majerus was the man behind the idea, and it only has been on the menu for a couple of years or so. To be honest, not even sure if on the menu, but butter lovers is the way to go.

[BrewCity83]

Thanks Goose--now I've gotta go back to try it

[Goose]

Brew83

Give me a review after your next stop at Barbiere's.

[BrewCity83]

Will do.

I already LOVED the regular garlic bread I had there, so I don't know how much better the butterlovers version could be!

[wadesworld]

Will do.

I already LOVED the regular garlic bread I had there, so I don't know how much better the butterlovers version could be!

Agreed.  Will have to give that a try next time I'm back in Milwaukee.  We usually get some pizza from there once a trip.