MLB 2023-2024 Offseason

[The Lens]

One last thing before I stop posting...

Since 2020 the Brewers had (arguably)

The best rotation
The best manager
The best defense
The best back end

And all it yielded was a few WC stickers below Uecker's perch. I will now cry myself to sleep and stop adding misery to this thread.  Sorry I inserted myself, I'm no help to anyone. 

[Uncle Rico]

I agree to actively seek an Adames trade and see what we have or don't have with their young infielders. I'd love to trade Yelich too and do the same with all their young outfielders. 

Williams I'd be more reluctant to trade. If you're blowing saves, that's going to hurt a very young team's confidence.  But they're going nowhere this year, so I'd certainly listen on offers for Williams. It would just take one that you can't refuse for me to move him too. Especially any team getting him has club control through'25.

They've done a good job identifying relief pitchers.  I'm confident they could move someone into that role.  Not saying THEY HAVE to trade him, but he's not someone they have to keep as a future piece.

He is one I hold onto until July anyway as we'll see some contenders desperate for pen help

[The Sultan]

Like any trade, it all depends on what you get back.

[Uncle Rico]

Like any trade, it all depends on what you get back.

Trade him for a used BIKE, aina?

[wadesworld]

Williams just waits to blow games until the Playoffs.  Or punches walls and misses the Playoffs altogether.

[Hards Alumni]

One last thing before I stop posting...

Since 2020 the Brewers had (arguably)

The best rotation
The best manager
The best defense
The best back end

And all it yielded was a few WC stickers below Uecker's perch. I will now cry myself to sleep and stop adding misery to this thread.  Sorry I inserted myself, I'm no help to anyone.

That's called being a Brewers fan.

[cheebs09]

I feel Brewers fortunes might have been different if Yelich didn't foul that pitch off his knee. Same way I think the Packers have another Super Bowl if Nick Collins stays healthy.

[GB Warrior]

The pennant race in 2018 was exhilirating - everything you wanted over those two aquisitions. They never attempted push the envelope beyond that. I agree, if Yelich doesn't get hurt, who knows?

Right now, you trade Adames and see what you got. This team is good enough to compete for the division. Fall flat, then you sell off other pieces at the deadline. But right now, get what you can for Willy and see what happens.

[Lennys Tap]

One last thing before I stop posting...

Since 2020 the Brewers had (arguably)

The best rotation
The best manager
The best defense
The best back end

And all it yielded was a few WC stickers below Uecker's perch. I will now cry myself to sleep and stop adding misery to this thread.  Sorry I inserted myself, I'm no help to anyone.

Trying hard to feel your pain - was almost there until I remembered that I'm a White Sox fan.

[The Sultan]

Las Vegas mayor says the As should just stay in Oakland.

https://x.com/FOS_Today/status/1754883211270684831?s=20

[Pakuni]

Las Vegas mayor says the As should just stay in Oakland.

https://x.com/FOS_Today/status/1754883211270684831?s=20

Ha. Even they don't want to deal with John Fisher.

[WhiteTrash]

Does anybody know what the White Sox's new GM is doing? Text book rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic. Bunch of trades, no young talent added and projected still at 100+ loses. 

[Pakuni]

Does anybody know what the White Sox's new GM is doing? Text book rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic. Bunch of trades, no young talent added and projected still at 100+ loses. 

No young talent added?
I don't think they're trying to win, but they've certain added a lot of younger players.

[Dish]

No young talent added?
I don't think they're trying to win, but they've certain added a lot of younger players.

Yeah, they've done kinda fine for a team that's not going to compete in 2024. Selling off bullpen pieces is fine by me.

It's really something the velocity with which the new potential stadium plans are headed. I realize they're under a tight window with TIF funding that expires at the end of the year, but compare that to the Bears, who have the same TIF deadline looming. Polar opposite so far between the two organizations.

[BrewCity83]

Brewers add Catcher Gary Sanchez on a $7MM deal. 

https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2024/02/brewers-to-sign-gary-sanchez.html

Initial report has him as a backup catcher and occasional DH against lefties, but for that kind of money, it makes me wonder if they might work to trade Contreras and set up Jeferson Quero for the future.  Otherwise, it seems like an odd signing.

[Jockey]

From Fangraphs:

ZiPS has the White Sox as one of the worst teams in baseball, with little to look forward to outside of Dylan Cease, Luis Robert Jr., and the hope that Yoán Moncada and Eloy Jiménez get back on track. This organization is in a very dangerous position in that, like the Rockies a few years ago, I'm not sure it truly understands where it stands.

[PGsHeroes32]

From Fangraphs:

ZiPS has the White Sox as one of the worst teams in baseball, with little to look forward to outside of Dylan Cease, Luis Robert Jr., and the hope that Yoán Moncada and Eloy Jiménez get back on track. This organization is in a very dangerous position in that, like the Rockies a few years ago, I'm not sure it truly understands where it stands.

They badly need Cease to come out looking close to Cy Young Cease and trade him with value.

[Jockey]

They badly need Cease to come out looking close to Cy Young Cease and trade him with value.

I think 2022 may have been a one-off.

He isn't as good as that, but also not as bad as last year. Just a good, solid, near top of the rotation guy.

[PGsHeroes32]

I think 2022 may have been a one-off.

He isn't as good as that, but also not as bad as last year. Just a good, solid, near top of the rotation guy.

Yup agreed. Walks too many guys

Just saying it would be good for them though if he can come out super hot and up the value they need to move him but the value is a bit plateaued.

[Jockey]

Yup agreed. Walks too many guys

Just saying it would be good for them though if he can come out super hot and up the value they need to move him but the value is a bit plateaued.

Absolutely.

[HutchwasClutch]

Brewers add Catcher Gary Sanchez on a $7MM deal. 

https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2024/02/brewers-to-sign-gary-sanchez.html

Initial report has him as a backup catcher and occasional DH against lefties, but for that kind of money, it makes me wonder if they might work to trade Contreras and set up Jeferson Quero for the future.  Otherwise, it seems like an odd signing.

Contreras is going nowhere, nor should he.  He's under team control for 4 years, including this season and is just scratching the surface of his ceiling.  He's already their best hitter, hits for power and average. 

Quero has played 90 games of AA ball.  He almost certainly won't be ready this year.

Sanchez can reduce the strain of everyday catching grind on Contreras and keep him fresh.  Then can be a good DH against lefties like you said, who he's had much success against his career. 

Don't read so much into this. 

[BrewCity83]

I agree with you on Contreras--he has real value to keep.

After sleeping on this, it seems more likely that the Brewers will flip Sanchez for prospects at the trade deadline.  This move reminds me of what Stearns did several years ago (2016 or 2017 maybe?) when he signed a few discounted veterans late in the free agent season and then traded them off for prospects in July.

[Uncle Rico]

I agree with you on Contreras--he has real value to keep.

After sleeping on this, it seems more likely that the Brewers will flip Sanchez for prospects at the trade deadline.  This move reminds me of what Stearns did several years ago (2016 or 2017 maybe?) when he signed a few discounted veterans late in the free agent season and then traded them off for prospects in July.

Unless Sanchez is a different player this year, they ain't swapping him for much.

[HutchwasClutch]

I agree with you on Contreras--he has real value to keep.

After sleeping on this, it seems more likely that the Brewers will flip Sanchez for prospects at the trade deadline.  This move reminds me of what Stearns did several years ago (2016 or 2017 maybe?) when he signed a few discounted veterans late in the free agent season and then traded them off for prospects in July.

Agree definitely in trying to flip Sanchez, also Junis at the deadline for prospects if they're out of it.  But in the meantime, they've picked up a couple veterans who've had generally productive careers that might help them stay in the race. Nobody looks scary in the Central right now.  Pretty wide open and if they're young position guys can play, they have a strong bullpen, so who knows.

[HutchwasClutch]

Unless Sanchez is a different player this year, they ain't swapping him for much.

Just short of 20 HR and .800 OPS in a limited role and a non hitters ballpark. He's way better than Nola and Haase as a backup to Contreras.  And he's always hit lefties very well.  I like additions of him and Junis.