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Dr. Blackheart

Quote from: MU82 on November 29, 2023, 07:07:39 PM
We had a roster hole that needed filling. It could happen again. Shaka filled the last one with experienced players such as Morsell and Kur. It is not crazy to think he'd do something similar if and when there's a next time. And Shaka would have absolutely no problem selling it.

That's my thesis, and I'm sticking to it until proven wrong.

He also took Zach last season

TSmith34, Inc.

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Quote from: Dr. Blackheart on November 29, 2023, 08:04:29 PM
He also took Zach last season
Speaking of which...neither Wrightsil nor Ellis doing anything after transferring down. Wonder how much injuries are still bothering them.

Check that: Wrightsil hasn't played at all
If you think for one second that I am comparing the USA to China you have bumped your hard.

NotAnAlum

I don't think Shaka is fundamentally against transfers.  I think he is against the NIL bidding war that drives so much of the high end transfers.  Its this NIL bidding that undermines team chemistry.  I absolutely agree with this position and feel it is a huge threat to the revenue sports if the NCAA doesn't find a way to manage it.(up till now they've just stood back and let the situation happen).  Hopefully they will find a way to regulate this.  Until that happens Shaka will take a transfer on HIS terms.  The more successful MU is the more likely some kids in the proper situation will agree

We R Final Four

Quote from: Jay Bee on November 29, 2023, 07:12:50 PM
I didn't say you said WILL NOT or REFUSES. I said I don't believe he does either.

You did not just say you'd be surprised. You said, " I would be VERY surprised to see him add a transfer. That isnt the route he's going and he's discussed it ad nauseum"

So... "VERY surprised" and "That isn't the route he's going"... now changed to "surprised" is better... but still too much
Yes....I would be VERY SURPRISED.

We R Final Four

Quote from: MU82 on November 29, 2023, 07:07:39 PM
We had a roster hole that needed filling. It could happen again. Shaka filled the last one with experienced players such as Morsell and Kur. It is not crazy to think he'd do something similar if and when there's a next time. And Shaka would have absolutely no problem selling it.

That's my thesis, and I'm sticking to it until proven wrong.
There were plenty of scoopers.....who claimed to know ball....who gave us all the names of the top transfers that would replace OMax......
But....those transfers never got the call from Shaka....much to the disappointment of those same scoopers.

TAMU, Knower of Ball

Shaka doesn't give a rat's butt if a player is a transfer or a high school recruit. Just that they are a fit for the culture and what the team needs at the moment. If there's a player like that in the portal, he'll be getting a call from Shaka!
Quote from: Goose on January 15, 2023, 08:43:46 PM
TAMU

I do know, Newsie is right on you knowing ball.


MU82

Quote from: We R Final Four on November 29, 2023, 09:07:26 PM
There were plenty of scoopers.....who claimed to know ball....who gave us all the names of the top transfers that would replace OMax......
But....those transfers never got the call from Shaka....much to the disappointment of those same scoopers.
I certainly didn't list a bunch of potential O-Max replacements. I also don't know who Shaka did or didn't call; not sure how you know, but I'll take your word for it.
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Tyler COLEk

Quote from: TAMU, Knower of Ball on November 29, 2023, 10:12:38 PM
Shaka doesn't give a rat's butt if a player is a transfer or a high school recruit. Just that they are a fit for the culture and what the team needs at the moment. If there's a player like that in the portal, he'll be getting a call from Shaka!

I just don't think this is true anymore, at least according to Shaka. He made explicit in preseason media that long-term development of high school recruits is fundamental to MU culture vs. bringing in transfers annually. Will some of those HS recruits not work out? Will the occasional transfer sign? I'm sure the answer to yes is both. But I don't think we should expect to see impact transfers sought out on a yearly basis.

Goose

I never saw a list of potential transfers to fill the Omax spot. I definitely stated I thought the spot would be filled and was surprised it was not. Would be curious to see that list and see where those guys landed.

As for TAMU post, makes perfect sense to me. It would be very naive to think there will never be a year that transfer portal will be used by Shaka.

We R Final Four


MU82

Several of us are talking over each other here because I think most of us generally agree:

Shaka very much prefers to build by recruiting, developing, retaining/rewarding. But should a definite need arise and the right candidate(s) be available, he would be open to using the transfer portal.

That's how I see it, anyway, and I think that's how most others do, too.

I'd love to see Shaka never even be tempted to use the portal, because that would mean he has a team full of studs every season.
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tower912

You are correct.   The hairs have been split fine and the pedantic hackles have been up.   
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

Jay Bee

Quote from: MU82 on November 30, 2023, 07:11:59 AM
Several of us are talking over each other here because I think most of us generally agree:

Shaka very much prefers to build by recruiting, developing, retaining/rewarding. But should a definite need arise and the right candidate(s) be available, he would be open to using the transfer portal.

That's how I see it, anyway, and I think that's how most others do, too.

I'd love to see Shaka never even be tempted to use the portal, because that would mean he has a team full of studs every season.

Disagree. "Definite need ... then open."  I don't believe it and think it's criminal if that's the case.

I don't think transfers are ignored — it's just not preferred and most transfers may not be of interested to us. But, some here believe MU thinks of transfers as the pure evil and solely a last, desperate resort
REJOICE! Eric Dixon has been suspended!!

tower912

Who thinks they are evil?    MU has a long and glorious history of taking in transfers and JuCos.    Shaka took in several when he arrived.   

See:  splitting hairs and pedantic hackles.
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

Jay Bee

Quote from: tower912 on November 30, 2023, 07:22:07 AM
See:  splitting hairs and pedantic hackles.

I wonder if that web domain is available. Has a nice ring to it
REJOICE! Eric Dixon has been suspended!!

tower912

Scoop should change to that.
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

Goose

tower

Shaka is four of four in transfers thus far. The Kolek transfer is a top five transfer in MU history and possibly will end up top of the list.

The Sultan

Quote from: Goose on November 30, 2023, 07:58:24 AM
tower

Shaka is four of four in transfers thus far. The Kolek transfer is a top five transfer in MU history and possibly will end up top of the list.

4 for 5. Hard to suggest that Wrightsil was a success.
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Goose


Coleman

Quote from: TAMU, Knower of Ball on November 29, 2023, 10:12:38 PM
Shaka doesn't give a rat's butt if a player is a transfer or a high school recruit. Just that they are a fit for the culture and what the team needs at the moment. If there's a player like that in the portal, he'll be getting a call from Shaka!

Yep. This 100%

Elonsmusk

Quote from: MU82 on November 29, 2023, 11:06:39 AM
I used to think this, TAMU, but just really watching him play this season I disagree now.

He's tall enough, he's not scrawny, he can get to the hoop, he is a great finisher, he has imagination around the bucket, and he has NBA 3-point range. He's become a decent defender, too. And he's a good enough decision-maker and ballhandler to be a combo guard.

I actually think he's got a pretty darn good chance at an NBA career. Because of his shooting alone, he's ahead of guys like Blue, McNeal, Buycks, Wilson and a few others who didn't quite make it.

All IMHO of course.

Agree with this analysis.  Kam will play in the NBA, and have a nice career.

willie warrior

Quote from: Goose on November 30, 2023, 07:58:24 AM
tower

Shaka is four of four in transfers thus far. The Kolek transfer is a top five transfer in MU history and possibly will end up top of the list.
Interesting. Just listing top 5 transfers would tax ones memory
Who would some be, and would that include JUCO transfers?
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Goose

This is not in any order of greatness, but I believe on the championship team there was Whitehead, Boylan, Ulice Payne and Jim Dudley.

tower912

In a different era, DJO, Buycks, Butler, Crowder, Acker, Lockett.

Robert Jackson proved useful
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

Goose

The transfer/Juco list is a long one. MU used the transfer/juco market to perfection prior to the portal era.

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