Lewiston shooting

[jesmu84]

Y'all should listen to Revisionist History 6 part podcast on guns. Super good.

[Lennys Tap]

You know what? Whatever it takes.

This kind of thing is pretty common. A homophobe suddenly becomes supportive when one of his kids comes out of the closet. An entertainer or athlete who never was charitable suddenly gets active in cancer or heart research when a parent or child gets afflicted. A person who shrugs off drunk driving joins MADD after a family member gets killed by a drunk driver. And, yes, a gun-rights advocate finally sees the light after someone she loves gets gunned down by someone who never should have had access to a firearm.

So yeah, douche canoe. But at least he's now a douche canoe doing the right thing.

So (in your world) if someone was brought up with (or concluded due to other forces) a particular viewpoint he's still a douche canoe even if his personal experience helped him see things differently?

Not mine. For example, I welcome dumb people who are converts from communism or socialism to capitalism and consider them equals despite the fact that I was way smarter first. Hell, I don't even consider those who haven't seen the light to be douche canoes. They're wrong, of course, and if/when their viewpoint carries the day much suffering will/does result - but I still think of them as wrong, not douche canoes. I've never understood the "we disagree because I'm a good person and you're a douche"argument that so many on the left favor on all sorts of issues. I don't think it's a particularly persuasive tactic.

[Hards Alumni]

So (in your world) if someone was brought up with (or concluded due to other forces) a particular viewpoint he's still a douche canoe even if his personal experience helped him see things differently?

Not mine. For example, I welcome dumb people who are converts from communism or socialism to capitalism and consider them equals despite the fact that I was way smarter first. Hell, I don't even consider those who haven't seen the light to be douche canoes. They're wrong, of course, and if/when their viewpoint carries the day much suffering will/does result - but I still think of them as wrong, not douche canoes. I've never understood the "we disagree because I'm a good person and you're a douche"argument that so many on the left favor on all sorts of issues. I don't think it's a particularly persuasive tactic.

[Pakuni]

Y'all should listen to Revisionist History 6 part podcast on guns. Super good.

Little Sammy Alito concurs.

[MU82]

So (in your world) if someone was brought up with (or concluded due to other forces) a particular viewpoint he's still a douche canoe even if his personal experience helped him see things differently?

Not mine. For example, I welcome dumb people who are converts from communism or socialism to capitalism and consider them equals despite the fact that I was way smarter first. Hell, I don't even consider those who haven't seen the light to be douche canoes. They're wrong, of course, and if/when their viewpoint carries the day much suffering will/does result - but I still think of them as wrong, not douche canoes. I've never understood the "we disagree because I'm a good person and you're a douche"argument that so many on the left favor on all sorts of issues. I don't think it's a particularly persuasive tactic.

Well, I was thinking that he made two decisions because they were politically expedient for him. He decided to be a big guns-rights person because he felt that's what he needed to get elected in Maine, and now he's suddenly flip-flopped because of this mass shooting spree.

But you're right, Lenny. I don't know the man, and he might be a wonderful person who was genuinely conflicted not once but twice, and both times went with what he really thought was best for humankind. So I probably shouldn't have judged him. And bottom line: I'm glad he flip-flopped, whatever his motivation might have been. He'll be feeling heat from the NRA and gun-worshippers everywhere, so one could even argue that his flip-flop took courage.

As far as communism, socialism, dumb people and all the other fine stuff you talked about -- including your claim that only "the left" calls others names (who knew our own "Douche Canoe" and our beloved dentists were on the left?) -- I'll let that be and others can judge it on its merit.

[Not all scoop users are created equal apparently]

lol

[4everwarriors]

We don't dish out anywhere near what's tossed toward our way us by the crowd with stinky turds between their ears, hey?

[MU82]

We don't dish out anywhere near what's tossed toward our way us by the crowd with stinky turds between their ears, hey?

Well, you and Douchey have been doing your Joseph McCarthy bits on the Israel thread, so there's that. And in your case, you do it even as you support those who actually give aid and comfort to Jew-haters, which is disappointing.

[Uncle Rico]

We don't dish out anywhere near what's tossed toward our way us by the crowd with stinky turds between their ears, hey?

Poor snowflake

[Uncle Rico]

Well, you and Douchey have been doing your Joseph McCarthy bits on the Israel thread, so there's that. And in your case, you do it even as you support those who actually give aid and comfort to Jew-haters, which is disappointing.

When the new message board is up and running...

[Not all scoop users are created equal apparently]

We don't dish out anywhere near what's tossed toward our way us by the crowd with stinky turds between their ears, hey?

[4everwarriors]

Poor snowflake

Self defense...nothin' ta cee heer. Move along, hey?

[tower912]

Shooter reportedly found dead from a self inflicted gunshot wound.

[MU82]

Shooter reportedly found dead from a self inflicted gunshot wound.

Mfing coward.

[Lennys Tap]

Well, I was thinking that he made two decisions because they were politically expedient for him. He decided to be a big guns-rights person because he felt that's what he needed to get elected in Maine, and now he's suddenly flip-flopped because of this mass shooting spree.

But you're right, Lenny. I don't know the man, and he might be a wonderful person who was genuinely conflicted not once but twice, and both times went with what he really thought was best for humankind. So I probably shouldn't have judged him. And bottom line: I'm glad he flip-flopped, whatever his motivation might have been. He'll be feeling heat from the NRA and gun-worshippers everywhere, so one could even argue that his flip-flop took courage.

As far as communism, socialism, dumb people and all the other fine stuff you talked about -- including your claim that only "the left" calls others names (who knew our own "Douche Canoe" and our beloved dentists were on the left?) -- I'll let that be and others can judge it on its merit.

Fair enough, Mike.

[The Lens]

We don't dish out anywhere near what's tossed toward our way us by the crowd with stinky turds between their ears, hey?

Answer the F'n question:

Why do we lead the world in this?

[Not all scoop users are created equal apparently]

Answer the F'n question:

Why do we lead the world in this?

We lead the world in freedom

[4everwarriors]

Answer the F'n question:

Why do we lead the world in this?

'Cuz da Buffoon has maid everyone nuckin' futz. Drugs flow like pee and there are too many people with stinky brown matta berween der ears. Happy now, hey?

[jesmu84]

'Cuz da Buffoon has maid everyone nuckin' futz. Drugs flow like pee and there are too many people with stinky brown matta berween der ears. Happy now, hey?

🤡

[MU82]

'Cuz da Buffoon has maid everyone nuckin' futz. Drugs flow like pee and there are too many people with stinky brown matta berween der ears. Happy now, hey?

Your deposed Mad King is nuckin' futz. He dines with anti-Semites, has a son-in-law who accepted $2B from Jew-haters, and calls to battle his merry band of violent neo-Nazis for his cop-bashing, democracy-scuttling coup attempts. And yet you, Mr. I'll Never Support Anti-Semites, bends the knee to him. No wonder you couldn't sleep at 3 in the morning.

[The Lens]

Wow. You don't honestly believe this do you?

Because I don't blame Trump for Las Vegas, El Paso, Gilroy, etc.  Do you?

When a gun man sets up weapons of war in a Las Vegas hotel room and sprays a music festival was it really Donald Trump's fault?  I don't believe it was. I put the blame on access to weapons of war not the POTUS.

[Uncle Rico]

Wow. You don't honestly believe this do you?

Because I don't blame Trump for Las Vegas, El Paso, Gilroy, etc.  Do you?

When a gun man sets up weapons of war in a Las Vegas hotel room and sprays a music festival was it really Donald Trump's fault?  I don't believe it was. I put the blame on access to weapons of war not the POTUS.

He has Fox News/right wing radio brain rot.  It's a deadly affliction that has taken many baby boomers

[TSmith34, Inc.]

'Cuz da Buffoon has maid everyone nuckin' futz. Drugs flow like pee and there are too many people with stinky brown matta berween der ears. Happy now, hey?

Huh.

Add Time Traveler to the list of Dark Brandon's accomplishments.

[WellsstreetWanderer]

Answer the F'n question:

Why do we lead the world in this?

  Simple answer- we don't   Facts matter
very often after one of these horrible events we come to learn that all the red flags were ignored or laws were not followed
 

[The Sultan]

  Simple answer- we don't   Facts matter
very often after one of these horrible events we come to learn that all the red flags were ignored or laws were not followed

Keep making excuses.