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Author Topic: Adopting a Puppy...  (Read 2838 times)

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Adopting a Puppy...
« on: July 27, 2023, 08:27:30 AM »
The Reinko's are taking the dive and meeting some rescue puppies at our local shelter.  I've done a lot of reading on the type of pup we are looking for, so pretty good in that arena, but open to any and all tips and strategies for preparing the house, things to have on hand, crate or not to crate, brands of food, toys, whatever...

Thanks!

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Re: Adopting a Puppy...
« Reply #1 on: July 27, 2023, 09:24:38 AM »
The Reinko's are taking the dive and meeting some rescue puppies at our local shelter.  I've done a lot of reading on the type of pup we are looking for, so pretty good in that arena, but open to any and all tips and strategies for preparing the house, things to have on hand, crate or not to crate, brands of food, toys, whatever...

Thanks!

Having a fenced-in backyard will facilitate house breaking your pup, otherwise you'll be looking at 2 or 3 bathroom runs a day, more for a young pup.

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Re: Adopting a Puppy...
« Reply #2 on: July 27, 2023, 09:26:34 AM »
The Reinko's are taking the dive and meeting some rescue puppies at our local shelter.  I've done a lot of reading on the type of pup we are looking for, so pretty good in that arena, but open to any and all tips and strategies for preparing the house, things to have on hand, crate or not to crate, brands of food, toys, whatever...

Thanks!
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Re: Adopting a Puppy...
« Reply #3 on: July 27, 2023, 09:40:04 AM »
I'm a firm believer in using a crate until house broken or when leaving the dog home alone if they tend to chew the wrong items etc.

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« Reply #4 on: July 27, 2023, 09:45:04 AM »
Having a fenced-in backyard will facilitate house breaking your pup, otherwise you'll be looking at 2 or 3 bathroom runs a day, more for a young pup.

Fenced yard definitely adds to convenience. But when you want the dog to go, you have to stand there and watch to make sure he/she really went anyway, so not sure about saving time. Otherwise, the dog's just going outside to play and run around; there's nothing wrong with that, but it doesn't help housebreak the pup.

We have had 3 puppies over the years, and none of the yards we had were fenced. So yes, we had to stay on high alert for a month or two and put each on a leash and take each for a walk to one of a few spots. Each dog trained pretty quickly, each knew what the purpose of the walk was.

And as a bonus, each was much better on a leash for long walks than our friends' dogs were, as those were just let outside into the backyard to do their business. It also forces one to get up from one's desk or TV and move around.

Secondary bonus: The backyard isn't covered in dog poop. We actually can use our backyard for fun activities or for the kids (and now grandkids) to play in without having to do a poop-gathering mission each time.

Having said all that, yes, a fenced yard is more convenient - especially on rainy or snowy days, when walking the dog is much less fun.

I just threw all this out there so reinko or others don't think, "No fenced yard automatically means no dog."

The Reinko's are taking the dive and meeting some rescue puppies at our local shelter.  I've done a lot of reading on the type of pup we are looking for, so pretty good in that arena, but open to any and all tips and strategies for preparing the house, things to have on hand, crate or not to crate, brands of food, toys, whatever...

Thanks!

We crate-trained each of our dogs and each came to like the crate as its "home." Our current dog, whom we've had since 2011, was really really good outside the crate, too, so when she was 3 or so we experimented with leaving her out at night and then when we went on an hour-long grocery run, etc. She was great - didn't chew anything, destroy anything, etc - so we haven't crated her for years now.

Over the years, we have used everything from cheap-ass Pedigree food to pricey designer food and, frankly, haven't seen much difference in the dogs' health. For the last many years we have been using Costco's supposedly premium food, which is far less expensive than the ones from the pet stores and which gets generally good reviews from veterinarians - and the dog seems to like it too.

Over time, your dog will dictate the kind of toys you get her or him. Aggressive/destructive chewers will need different toys than those that just mostly play with the toys. You'll figure it out soon enough.

Fun! We've loved having dogs over the years, and our kids loved having them, too. Congrats, and feel free to PM me if you have more specific questions.
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Re: Adopting a Puppy...
« Reply #5 on: July 27, 2023, 09:48:35 AM »
Another vote for crate training.
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Re: Adopting a Puppy...
« Reply #6 on: July 27, 2023, 10:31:36 AM »
Another vote for crate training.

We have 3 dogs, a 15 year old Golden and 2 one year old Labs. Our Labs are in the 100 pound range, while our Golden has lost some weight he is in the 70/80 pound range. My mom over the years have had smaller dogs and all were crate trained. When considering crate training just make sure you have the space for the crate. We just don't have the space for 3 large crates so we opted not to. I know I am the exception having 3 dogs.

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Re: Adopting a Puppy...
« Reply #7 on: July 27, 2023, 10:42:38 AM »
The Reinko's are taking the dive and meeting some rescue puppies at our local shelter.  I've done a lot of reading on the type of pup we are looking for, so pretty good in that arena, but open to any and all tips and strategies for preparing the house, things to have on hand, crate or not to crate, brands of food, toys, whatever...

Thanks!

Props to you reinko and your family.  I will echo a lot of the sentiments of MU82.  I have had two rescue dogs as well as a Dalmatian in my adult life.  My dog now (Gatsby) is a beagle-shep mix that I got from the local humane society.  He clearly  experienced trauma in his early life as he was inordinately skiddish for about 6 months.  He still loathes vacuums and elevators as well as squirrels for some reason. 

As someone who struggles to relax I would say that being patient is extremely important for starters.   Definitely crate-train and have a pretty strict routine overall.   It's not particularly helpful to cuddle them all day as much as they and you might want to.  They must know boundaries and it's a process for sure.  I wouldn't get designer dog food but would introduce them to new foods after some time even if they have no complaints.  I feel like I've had the most success with non-grain but it can be different dog to dog. 

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Re: Adopting a Puppy...
« Reply #8 on: July 27, 2023, 10:44:40 AM »
Tried crate training, moved past it quickly, dog allowed to roam anywhere. If you crate train, size it just big enough that the dog can turn around and not much more.

We got a dog when I retired and my kids started high school five years ago. I was home all the time and specifically for the first few weeks. I took Leo out on a regular schedule, we used the bell system. He still uses the bells and also “talks” when he needs food, water, to go outside. Like with my kids, I narrated everything, every time. I’m sure I looked ridiculous, but he now responds to words and actions well…or so it seems. It is essential in my opinion to be around all the time the first few weeks. The downfall, he is definitely attached to me, and I have been asked if my dog is dying or being attacked when I tie him up outside a store and go in. Use treats to train. Growing up my mom always made us take our dogs to obedience class, I didn’t as I was able to be around all the time and have experience.

I use high quality food, usually limited ingredient, limited allergens, high protein, grain free, natural. I like a combo of dry and raw, I like goat milk supplements, too, but neither regularly any more. Choose a good groomer, I like using a harness even though my pup is 13 pounds, find a comfy dog bed…or a giant beanbag apparently.

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Re: Adopting a Puppy...
« Reply #9 on: July 27, 2023, 10:51:28 AM »
We have adopted and fostered numerous dogs. My experience is the 3-3-3 rule is pretty accurate.

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Re: Adopting a Puppy...
« Reply #10 on: July 27, 2023, 10:54:07 AM »
The Reinko's are taking the dive and meeting some rescue puppies at our local shelter.  I've done a lot of reading on the type of pup we are looking for, so pretty good in that arena, but open to any and all tips and strategies for preparing the house, things to have on hand, crate or not to crate, brands of food, toys, whatever...

Thanks!
Crate training is the way to go. Then evolve over time to free range in the house .

Constant stream of toys is key.

Feed at same time each day and Don't feed human food.

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Re: Adopting a Puppy...
« Reply #11 on: July 27, 2023, 11:40:08 AM »
MU82 keeps a vat of peanut butter on hand at all times

Also, call Biden
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Re: Adopting a Puppy...
« Reply #12 on: July 27, 2023, 11:53:54 AM »
MU82 keeps a vat of peanut butter on hand at all times

Also, call Biden

Huh??????  WTF??

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« Reply #13 on: July 27, 2023, 11:59:22 AM »
JB getting double the snark, muggsy.
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Re: Adopting a Puppy...
« Reply #14 on: July 27, 2023, 12:03:06 PM »
JB getting double the snark, muggsy.

I'm lost Tower. 

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Re: Adopting a Puppy...
« Reply #15 on: July 27, 2023, 12:05:10 PM »
If I may suggest some solid sources:

Before and After Getting Your Puppy - Ian Dunbar
The Power of Positive Dog Training - Pat Miller
Culture Clash - Jean Donaldson

99% of everything you'll need to know is in those 3 books. The first one you can download a free pdf online.

We are 5 months into our 3rd puppy. So, everything is fresh again for us. I'd be happy to answer any specifics here or PM
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« Reply #16 on: July 27, 2023, 12:08:15 PM »
We have adopted and fostered numerous dogs. My experience is the 3-3-3 rule is pretty accurate.



This is pretty spot on.

We rescued, Bruce, a 3 year old Schnoodle 6 years ago.  It took him and us 3 days to acclimate including the bathroom schedule.  We tried to avoid a crate as we never needed for previous dogs, but his actions changed the calculus.  Day 2 he chewed the tops off of seltzer water bottles and dragged the decapitated bottle into the living room.  He had several protein bars and placed the empty wrappers back in the container they were in.  Day 3 he chewed a bunch of special water color markers (the wife is an art teacher) and Jackson Pollacked the hardwood floors with them.  He also killed a minion (key chain) among other chewed items.  I met the wife at Petco on my way home from work for crate shopping.  He also did not get along with the cat and as we learned over time that he doesn't really get along with any animals period.  We assume something from the shelter?  Walking him can be interesting as he gets all Scrappy Doo anytime we pass another dog or if say a coyote or deer or squirrel or chipmunk or bobcat or neighbor's cat wanders by.  Our cat just claimed our basement as her domain and he's afraid of the steps so will never go down.  They keep separated this way and other than him sticking his head into the cat door flap on the basement door it's all quiet.

He's a great dog as he loves people and is complete mush around humans.  My kids are always picking him or he needs to squeeze next to you on the couch or bed.

Best of luck and have fun!

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Re: Adopting a Puppy...
« Reply #17 on: July 27, 2023, 12:13:18 PM »
This is pretty spot on.

We rescued, Bruce, a 3 year old Schnoodle 6 years ago.  It took him and us 3 days to acclimate including the bathroom schedule.  We tried to avoid a crate as we never needed for previous dogs, but his actions changed the calculus.  Day 2 he chewed the tops off of seltzer water bottles and dragged the decapitated bottle into the living room.  He had several protein bars and placed the empty wrappers back in the container they were in.  Day 3 he chewed a bunch of special water color markers (the wife is an art teacher) and Jackson Pollacked the hardwood floors with them.  He also killed a minion (key chain) among other chewed items.  I met the wife at Petco on my way home from work for crate shopping.  He also did not get along with the cat and as we learned over time that he doesn't really get along with any animals period.  We assume something from the shelter?  Walking him can be interesting as he gets all Scrappy Doo anytime we pass another dog or if say a coyote or deer or squirrel or chipmunk or bobcat or neighbor's cat wanders by.  Our cat just claimed our basement as her domain and he's afraid of the steps so will never go down.  They keep separated this way and other than him sticking his head into the cat door flap on the basement door it's all quiet.

He's a great dog as he loves people and is complete mush around humans.  My kids are always picking him or he needs to squeeze next to you on the couch or bed.

Best of luck and have fun!

LOL.  Bruce is a good boy.

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Re: Adopting a Puppy...
« Reply #18 on: July 27, 2023, 12:16:18 PM »
I'm lost Tower.

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« Reply #19 on: July 27, 2023, 12:35:31 PM »
JB is fascinated by the genitalia of male board members and what they do with it.  Some call if projection.

Yes, such obsessions (and proclivities) are common among homophobes.
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Re: Adopting a Puppy...
« Reply #20 on: July 27, 2023, 12:39:07 PM »
Crate training is the way to go. Then evolve over time to free range in the house .

Constant stream of toys is key.

Feed at same time each day and Don't feed human food.

Dogs are excellent and loyal friends

What Herm said.  Also, some dogs require lots of exercise.  Their behavior worsens if they aren’t getting enough of it
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Re: Adopting a Puppy...
« Reply #21 on: July 27, 2023, 12:41:34 PM »
Muggsy, Biden's dog is alleged to have bitten secret service agents.

According to urban legend, due to dogs' love of peanut butter and their method of eating it, some people will spread peanut butter on their genitalia and let the dog have at it.

JB insinuated, errr, projected that MU82 was one of these people.
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Re: Adopting a Puppy...
« Reply #22 on: July 27, 2023, 12:45:58 PM »
Muggsy, Biden's dog is alleged to have bitten secret service agents.

According to urban legend, due to dogs' love of peanut butter and their method of eating it, some people will spread peanut butter on their genitalia and let the dog have at it.

JB insinuated, errr, projected that MU82 was one of these people.
Not my fight, but not sure why this wouldnt get JB on the banned list.

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Re: Adopting a Puppy...
« Reply #23 on: July 27, 2023, 01:45:52 PM »
Not my fight, but not sure why this wouldnt get JB on the banned list.

He already has been.  Even had another poster share a screenshot of his permaban notice.

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« Reply #24 on: July 27, 2023, 01:50:36 PM »
Not my fight, but not sure why this wouldnt get JB on the banned list.

He has been.   And there is always the ignore function if you just don't feel like reading his posts.
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« Reply #25 on: July 27, 2023, 01:59:54 PM »
Not my fight, but not sure why this wouldnt get JB on the banned list.

Cut him some slack, he was only potty trained this year.

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« Reply #26 on: July 27, 2023, 02:07:14 PM »
Over the years, we have used everything from cheap-ass Pedigree food to pricey designer food and, frankly, haven't seen much difference in the dogs' health. For the last many years we have been using Costco's supposedly premium food, which is far less expensive than the ones from the pet stores and which gets generally good reviews from veterinarians - and the dog seems to like it too.

I would add that I think grain-free food had a moment, but vets seem to have started recommending against it.  We started my gigantic pup on grain-free, but our vet has been watching the studies about that causing health and heart issues and thinks there is something to it.  He said he recommneds the cheap American brands over grain free.  We split the difference and use Fromm gold.

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« Reply #27 on: July 27, 2023, 02:09:52 PM »
I would add that I think grain-free food had a moment, but vets seem to have started recommending against it.  We started my gigantic pup on grain-free, but our vet has been watching the studies about that causing health and heart issues and thinks there is something to it.  He said he recommneds the cheap American brands over grain free.  We split the difference and use Fromm gold.

I hadn't heard that. Good to know. We fed our pup Pedigree for probably 4 years and she had absolutely no adverse effects.
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« Reply #28 on: July 27, 2023, 02:18:59 PM »
I would add that I think grain-free food had a moment, but vets seem to have started recommending against it.  We started my gigantic pup on grain-free, but our vet has been watching the studies about that causing health and heart issues and thinks there is something to it.  He said he recommneds the cheap American brands over grain free.  We split the difference and use Fromm gold.

I have not heard this from my vet but thanks for sharing. I think it's highly dependent on the vet's recommendations.    My dog had/has anxieties, allergies, and was underweight when I took him home.  He's done much better with grain-free food. 
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« Reply #29 on: July 27, 2023, 02:27:06 PM »
I would add that I think grain-free food had a moment, but vets seem to have started recommending against it.  We started my gigantic pup on grain-free, but our vet has been watching the studies about that causing health and heart issues and thinks there is something to it.  He said he recommneds the cheap American brands over grain free.  We split the difference and use Fromm gold.

Our youngest doberman had a very sensitive gut when he was young. We tried many different dog foods including grain free but he'd still get sick every few weeks. The breeder suggested American Natural Premium and he's been fine on that for years now.

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« Reply #30 on: July 27, 2023, 03:02:19 PM »
Our former pup ate blue buffalo.

New data shows potential heart issues with grain free.

Current pup is on Purina pro plan.

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« Reply #31 on: July 27, 2023, 03:19:38 PM »
FWIW sightly older dogs often come house trained and can be harder for rescues to adopt out. I understand being set on a puppy, but may want to consider a 2-3 year old as well.
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« Reply #32 on: July 27, 2023, 03:40:10 PM »
FWIW sightly older dogs often come house trained and can be harder for rescues to adopt out. I understand being set on a puppy, but may want to consider a 2-3 year old as well.

Great point, brew. Even dogs younger than 6-12 months old are often available.

We adopted our current dog from the shelter when she was only 3 months old - so she was still a puppy, but some training had already begun. Of the 4 dogs we've had, she was the easiest to get fully housebroken.

Years ago, we bought a puppy from a reputable breeder, and she also was a wonderful dog.
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« Reply #33 on: July 27, 2023, 05:37:35 PM »
unless i missed it in here somewhere...what breed of dog are you getting reinko...it can make a difference in how you train/interact with it. 

   i've had labs, airedales, saint bernies, but my absolute favorite is the siberian husky.  we've had 2(all white w/blue steelies) of those and miss them immensely. my son has 2 and they give me my fix.  we would get another one(or two) in a heartbeat but mrs rocket and i travel too much to make it a feasible and we will not subject it to a crate in the bowels of some aircraft
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« Reply #34 on: July 27, 2023, 06:20:06 PM »
FWIW sightly older dogs often come house trained and can be harder for rescues to adopt out. I understand being set on a puppy, but may want to consider a 2-3 year old as well.

We adopted a 2 year old mutt. A thing to keep in mind is that even if they are house trained, they will likely have several accidents in the first week as they get used to the new environment.  We only got Popeye because another family returned him a week earlier accusing the shelter of lying about him being house trained.  We are glad they did!

Ill also add a vote for crate training. Key is to make sure the dog has a positive association with his kennel. Don't use it as a punishment.  6 years later,  "Kennel" is still Popeyes strongest command. He can be in a tizzy over the amazon driver walking up to the door and as soon as we say kennel, he immediately stops baking and goes to his kennel.
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Re: Adopting a Puppy...
« Reply #35 on: July 27, 2023, 06:34:19 PM »
unless i missed it in here somewhere...what breed of dog are you getting reinko...it can make a difference in how you train/interact with it. 

   i've had labs, airedales, saint bernies, but my absolute favorite is the siberian husky.  we've had 2(all white w/blue steelies) of those and miss them immensely. my son has 2 and they give me my fix.  we would get another one(or two) in a heartbeat but mrs rocket and i travel too much to make it a feasible and we will not subject it to a crate in the bowels of some aircraft

Hey rocket (and y'all),
So the shelter in my area rescued a pregnant mom doggo, and the pups are the immediate concern, and rocket to your question, lab is dominant, but the mom is only about 25 lbs (the size we are looking for), but not sure on the mix.  Not gonna lie, she already seems part of the fam.


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« Reply #36 on: July 27, 2023, 06:43:31 PM »
We have had 2 dogs from puppyhood on and one who was 9 1/2 months old. The advantages of getting a dog 2-3 years old as Brew has suggested that you consider has its merits, as you will know its character (call it personality if you must, but dogs are not persons) and your suitability for each other.

In rooms with rugs, take them up and store them out of the way for a while. Try to keep the pup away from carpeted rooms, as it will almost certainly have an "imperfect" record while being house broken. Citric flavored sprays are available to discourage chewing on furniture, especially table legs. Antique tables legs are often at the greatest risk as their complex surfaces seem to be very interesting to pups and even mature dogs. Have plenty of chew toys.

Most dogs are comfortable with being in a crate for a while, probably due to their denning before their association with humans. A den/crate is a secure and defensible place (canine instinct kicking in), so please do not think of it as being cruel confinement if used from time to time.

Ignore ANY suggestions from anybody to restrict the pup's water to minimize the likelihood of peeing in the house. Pups' kidneys require plenty of water at this stage of their lives.

I strongly suggest going to puppy training classes (when the pup is the right age-talk to a trainer) rather than trying to do it yourself. In addition to the classes being led by professional trainers, the classes include "play time" for the puppies to just be puppies. The social interaction is great for the pups and they learn to get along with others.

Believe the experts when they tell you the importance of you, not the dog, being the leader in your relationship. Every time I see a leashed dog dragging its human, charging well ahead and doing whatever it wants, I know that the relationship is out of whack. You are not being cruel by insisting that your dog behave and follow your commands. Your dog will accept its role and will be more relaxed, happy and assured in a relationship in which you are the leader.

Lastly, whether you get a pup or a mature dog, do everything you can to make time (clear your damn schedule!) to enjoy your first months together. You do not get a second chance. The puppies mature so quickly, so do not let this moment pass you by.
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« Reply #37 on: July 27, 2023, 06:57:41 PM »
Hey rocket (and y'all),
So the shelter in my area rescued a pregnant mom doggo, and the pups are the immediate concern, and rocket to your question, lab is dominant, but the mom is only about 25 lbs (the size we are looking for), but not sure on the mix.  Not gonna lie, she already seems part of the fam.

  thanks reinko!   good luck with your new mammal!  bravo on the rescue!  our first husky was a rescue of sorts.  a patient of mine couldn't take care of him due to changes in his work schedules and relationship status.  we reluctantly accepted and as jake started to slow down bout age 10, we decided to get another one to give jake someone to pester him; he lived to the age of 16.  tanner lived to the age of 12 and i miss the hell out that guy.  he became my office mascot and kids still ask about him
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« Reply #38 on: July 27, 2023, 07:05:34 PM »
Hey rocket (and y'all),
So the shelter in my area rescued a pregnant mom doggo, and the pups are the immediate concern, and rocket to your question, lab is dominant, but the mom is only about 25 lbs (the size we are looking for), but not sure on the mix.  Not gonna lie, she already seems part of the fam.

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« Reply #39 on: July 27, 2023, 09:50:50 PM »
So the shelter in my area rescued a pregnant mom doggo, and the pups are the immediate concern, and rocket to your question, lab is dominant, but the mom is only about 25 lbs (the size we are looking for), but not sure on the mix.  Not gonna lie, she already seems part of the fam.

Awww!

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« Reply #40 on: July 27, 2023, 10:04:10 PM »
unless i missed it in here somewhere...what breed of dog are you getting reinko...it can make a difference in how you train/interact with it. 

   i've had labs, airedales, saint bernies, but my absolute favorite is the siberian husky.  we've had 2(all white w/blue steelies) of those and miss them immensely. my son has 2 and they give me my fix.  we would get another one(or two) in a heartbeat but mrs rocket and i travel too much to make it a feasible and we will not subject it to a crate in the bowels of some aircraft

How heavy was your St. B rocket? 

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« Reply #41 on: July 28, 2023, 06:04:01 AM »
How heavy was your St. B rocket?

   175 LB'er-his name was spanky.  sad story-died when he was 3 years old of congestive heart failure.  he had 3 episodes over his last 6 mos. where he would just go down.  they would drain fluid from around his heart and he was all good-meds etc.  we would kennel him right across the street from our long time veterinarians when vacationing.  he had an episode at kennel, they rushed to vet-drained fluid-returned to kennel and died in his sleep overnight.  we were upnort hayward and it was a long quiet ride home
 
  funny/weird story-we buried his ashes in backyard under what we refer to as our "tree of life".  mrs rocket took a pic of tree during a really brilliant sunset one evening about 2 weeks ago.  in the pic, there appeared to be a definite "orb".  i believe that was my spanky letting us know all is cool
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« Reply #42 on: July 28, 2023, 06:54:40 AM »
Hey rocket (and y'all),
So the shelter in my area rescued a pregnant mom doggo, and the pups are the immediate concern, and rocket to your question, lab is dominant, but the mom is only about 25 lbs (the size we are looking for), but not sure on the mix.  Not gonna lie, she already seems part of the fam.

Congrats! I know that you and your family will make the most of these early days with your puppy. I'm happy for you.

A note on food- ask a vet. Just because a puppy "looks good" whether fed nutritious food or cheap stuff tells you nothing about healthy bone, muscle and organ development. You received a lot of very helpful advice in this thread, but dismissing the importance of proper nutrition is not one of them.
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« Reply #43 on: July 28, 2023, 08:28:45 AM »
   175 LB'er-his name was spanky.  sad story-died when he was 3 years old of congestive heart failure.  he had 3 episodes over his last 6 mos. where he would just go down.  they would drain fluid from around his heart and he was all good-meds etc.  we would kennel him right across the street from our long time veterinarians when vacationing.  he had an episode at kennel, they rushed to vet-drained fluid-returned to kennel and died in his sleep overnight.  we were upnort hayward and it was a long quiet ride home
 
  funny/weird story-we buried his ashes in backyard under what we refer to as our "tree of life".  mrs rocket took a pic of tree during a really brilliant sunset one evening about 2 weeks ago.  in the pic, there appeared to be a definite "orb".  i believe that was my spanky letting us know all is cool

Omg, that's just awful.   Newfies and St. B's are the best  but they have short life spans.  I may have mentioned Zeus, my childhood dog (Newf) who also tipped the scales in Spanky's range.   He would block the door when I had to go off to school!   Those breeds are such gentle and sweet dogs.  And have no idea how strong or large they are.  RIP Zeus and Spanky.  :(
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« Reply #44 on: July 28, 2023, 08:33:26 AM »
   175 LB'er-his name was spanky.  sad story-died when he was 3 years old of congestive heart failure.  he had 3 episodes over his last 6 mos. where he would just go down.  they would drain fluid from around his heart and he was all good-meds etc.  we would kennel him right across the street from our long time veterinarians when vacationing.  he had an episode at kennel, they rushed to vet-drained fluid-returned to kennel and died in his sleep overnight.  we were upnort hayward and it was a long quiet ride home
 
  funny/weird story-we buried his ashes in backyard under what we refer to as our "tree of life".  mrs rocket took a pic of tree during a really brilliant sunset one evening about 2 weeks ago.  in the pic, there appeared to be a definite "orb".  i believe that was my spanky letting us know all is cool

Heart problems at a young age? Did he get the jab?

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« Reply #45 on: July 28, 2023, 12:48:40 PM »
Hey rocket (and y'all),
So the shelter in my area rescued a pregnant mom doggo, and the pups are the immediate concern, and rocket to your question, lab is dominant, but the mom is only about 25 lbs (the size we are looking for), but not sure on the mix.  Not gonna lie, she already seems part of the fam.

Does this cute puppy have a name yet?
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« Reply #46 on: July 28, 2023, 01:03:08 PM »
Omg, that's just awful.   Newfies and St. B's are the best  but they have short life spans.  I may have mentioned Zeus, my childhood dog (Newf) who also tipped the scales in Spanky's range.   He would block the door when I had to go off to school!   Those breeds are such gentle and sweet dogs.  And have no idea how strong or large they are.  RIP Zeus and Spanky.  :(

thanks muggs-yeah, you know the big dogs.  they had that innate desire to protect people

jesmu-love the humor-you did mean that to be funny, right?   ;)


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Does this cute puppy have a name yet?

Shortlist is Maddy, Nola, Flynn or Miley (so far!)

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Scoopy?
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Scoopy?

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Bricky? 


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« Reply #51 on: July 28, 2023, 02:51:22 PM »
Shortlist is Maddy, Nola, Flynn or Miley (so far!)

Many years ago, when our neighbors wanted a dog, the husband agreed on the condition that the dog be named Arthur. A good guess is that he wanted to tell a guy named Arthur "you're a dog", once a common but often good-natured insult, and back it up by telling the guy "we named our dog after you".

The dog they got was a huge, Chesapeake Bay retriever. It was a female, but the agreement stuck. Arthur loved kids and she was a great dog with a distinctive name. When the wife was pulled over for speeding and the cop began lecturing her, first her 4 year old boy started crying loudly, then his 6 year old sister teamed up with him. But when Arthur decided to join in with a very loud, mournful howl, the cop couldn't take any more and said "just slow down lady, OK?"

I know that Scoopers votes do not count, but I like Maddy.
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« Reply #52 on: October 10, 2023, 06:53:52 AM »
I think we could use a break from the Israeli thread Reinko. How about giving us an update on your puppy. Name? I'm guessing you passed on "Arthur" (see above post). You gave us a short list. By now her "personality" should be developed a bit. Are your kids helping out with walking her, especially first thing in the morning and last thing at night? How have you and your family changed since she joined your family?


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We got a street dog when we lived in Russia.  Someone found her, and it seemed she had been a pet that someone released, so they posted a lost and found on VK... which soon changed to a "please rescue me", as they couldn't afford to keep her.  We took her for a "test walk" through a busy park and through a kids playground.  She didn't flinch, didn't bark, and when kids approached, she bowed her head to let them pet her.  Knew immediately she was a keeper.  Probably she was about 1... but we don't know.  She still played like a puppy. 

Had no idea what crate training is, but occasionally used a baby gate.  Made "restricted areas" in the house... no kitchen, no bedrooms, but she can roam anywhere else.  That turned out to be very smart.  To this day she won't enter bedrooms, but a move to a new house with open kitchen kind of broke down the kitchen rule. 

My suggestion - and did this with all dogs we've had - never let them poop on "home turf".  Take them to a few designated places where it's OK.  We did this from the start and it makes the yard much more pleasant.  Even when it was -40C, she would walk to her designated place at the end of the street, do her business, and then run home.  Also it seems that with no poop in our yard, other dogs also don't poop here.

Second suggestion - make a special place for her in every room it's OK to be in.  We have one in my office, one in the TV room, one in the car, one in the parents house, etc.  A cushion/blanket/pillow that she can call her own.  This reduces stress.   All of our dogs have liked to be under something... coffee table, stairs, TV stand, desk.  Helps them feel even more secure.  Right now she's under my desk warming my feet!
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We got a street dog when we lived in Russia.  Someone found her, and it seemed she had been a pet that someone released, so they posted a lost and found on VK... which soon changed to a "please rescue me", as they couldn't afford to keep her.  We took her for a "test walk" through a busy park and through a kids playground.  She didn't flinch, didn't bark, and when kids approached, she bowed her head to let them pet her.  Knew immediately she was a keeper.  Probably she was about 1... but we don't know.  She still played like a puppy. 

Had no idea what crate training is, but occasionally used a baby gate.  Made "restricted areas" in the house... no kitchen, no bedrooms, but she can roam anywhere else.  That turned out to be very smart.  To this day she won't enter bedrooms, but a move to a new house with open kitchen kind of broke down the kitchen rule. 

My suggestion - and did this with all dogs we've had - never let them poop on "home turf".  Take them to a few designated places where it's OK.  We did this from the start and it makes the yard much more pleasant.  Even when it was -40C, she would walk to her designated place at the end of the street, do her business, and then run home.  Also it seems that with no poop in our yard, other dogs also don't poop here.

Second suggestion - make a special place for her in every room it's OK to be in.  We have one in my office, one in the TV room, one in the car, one in the parents house, etc.  A cushion/blanket/pillow that she can call her own.  This reduces stress.   All of our dogs have liked to be under something... coffee table, stairs, TV stand, desk.  Helps them feel even more secure.  Right now she's under my desk warming my feet!

Nice post. The "under something" is prewired into their canine minds- it is better known as "denning instinct". When the bedding becomes, umm, too odiferous, wash only one cover at a time. Having their distinctive scent on their bedding is very important to them, so they may choose an unwashed bed cover in addition to "reconditioning" the laundered one when they have at least two beds.

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« Reply #55 on: October 10, 2023, 09:33:57 AM »
Hey everyone!

Things have been going well!  We named her Charley (after my dad who passed about 18 months ago), and she has lots of puppy energy.  Sleeping in her crate amazingly, and not too bad during the day, but she has a 3 hour zoomie window in the late afternoon every single day.

My daughter has been helping out (she is 9), but Charley is still a bit of jumper, but its playful.  My wife is more of the fun and treats kinda parent, while I am a bit more of a disciplinarian, but we love love love her and I think she feels that too.

Thank GAWD we fenced in our backyard, this dog is FAST and may have a future running obstacle courses on ESPN7 at 3am.

Thanks all the support and advice everyone :)

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« Reply #56 on: October 10, 2023, 10:28:08 AM »
Hey everyone!

Things have been going well!  We named her Charley (after my dad who passed about 18 months ago), and she has lots of puppy energy.  Sleeping in her crate amazingly, and not too bad during the day, but she has a 3 hour zoomie window in the late afternoon every single day.

My daughter has been helping out (she is 9), but Charley is still a bit of jumper, but its playful.  My wife is more of the fun and treats kinda parent, while I am a bit more of a disciplinarian, but we love love love her and I think she feels that too.

Thank GAWD we fenced in our backyard, this dog is FAST and may have a future running obstacle courses on ESPN7 at 3am.

Thanks all the support and advice everyone :)

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« Reply #57 on: October 10, 2023, 10:39:38 AM »
We got a street dog when we lived in Russia.

We got a street dog when we lived in Guam. Actually, we got eight street dogs for the price of one...we just didn't know it when we picked her up.
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Hey everyone!

Things have been going well!  We named her Charley (after my dad who passed about 18 months ago), and she has lots of puppy energy.  Sleeping in her crate amazingly, and not too bad during the day, but she has a 3 hour zoomie window in the late afternoon every single day.

My daughter has been helping out (she is 9), but Charley is still a bit of jumper, but its playful.  My wife is more of the fun and treats kinda parent, while I am a bit more of a disciplinarian, but we love love love her and I think she feels that too.

Thank GAWD we fenced in our backyard, this dog is FAST and may have a future running obstacle courses on ESPN7 at 3am.

Thanks all the support and advice everyone :)

Aww! Congrats on adding Charley to the family!!!
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« Reply #59 on: October 10, 2023, 11:45:12 AM »
Congratulations on the new member of your family.  Charley looks like a good one.  Looks like she's gonna be a big dog sooner than you can blink an eye. 

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« Reply #60 on: October 10, 2023, 12:57:48 PM »
Hey everyone!

Things have been going well!  We named her Charley (after my dad who passed about 18 months ago), and she has lots of puppy energy.  Sleeping in her crate amazingly, and not too bad during the day, but she has a 3 hour zoomie window in the late afternoon every single day.

My daughter has been helping out (she is 9), but Charley is still a bit of jumper, but its playful.  My wife is more of the fun and treats kinda parent, while I am a bit more of a disciplinarian, but we love love love her and I think she feels that too.

Thank GAWD we fenced in our backyard, this dog is FAST and may have a future running obstacle courses on ESPN7 at 3am.

Thanks all the support and advice everyone :)

Charley is a great name for her. Arthur's ghost approves. When we got our cat, we chose a name of a departed family member-my grandfather.  My grandfather's name was Casimir but went by Casey. Casey the cat has a nice ring to it, don't you think?

The synergy of puppy/humans is fun to watch. From what you wrote, I know Charley is a very happy puppy and very loved. The fenced yard is a huge plus for both you and her. Glad to hear that you are holding to discipline. Contrary to common beliefs, dogs like to know what you want them to do and are happiest when that is made clear. You are doing Charley and your family a favor.

I'm very happy for you, and also jealous. :D
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« Reply #61 on: October 10, 2023, 02:58:43 PM »
None of that is important. The name is what is important. I say name it Wojo, so when you hit it with a newspaper (are those still around?) and say Bad Wojo, it may exercise some demons.

My daughter named her chocolate lab "Theo."

All I could think of is, "I have the yelling at Theo down!!!"

Really down!

By the way, Charley is really cute.

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« Reply #62 on: October 10, 2023, 03:38:17 PM »
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That is a great looking dog. Love the name and the story behind it. Enjoy!!
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Love all the stories   Dogs really enhance our lives but rule number one for adopting a rescue is to make sure they have been socialized.   That makes life much easier and it is great fun to watch canines play with each other. Good luck

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Love all the stories   Dogs really enhance our lives but rule number one for adopting a rescue is to make sure they have been socialized.   That makes life much easier and it is great fun to watch canines play with each other. Good luck

Agree Big Time on socialization, and puppyhood is the time to do it. Group training typically allows at least one "play break" for the pups where they learn to socialize not only with other pups but also humans whom they have just met. Of course, with a lot of pups to play with, humans are understandably of far less interest to them.
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Charley is a cute dog glad your enjoying her
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