speaking of movies...

[rocket surgeon]

    i am quite frankly confused and disappointed in some initial reactions to the movie "sounds of freedom"

     -the topic of child sex trafficking, regardless of how anyone wants to frame it, should NEVER be minimized
     -is some of it by associations?  if so, very unfortunately short sighted.
     -seems our border which has become a sieve has opened up the floodgates to this absolutely evil reality that needs as much attention as the drug and fentanyl fiascos among many others that have been created. 

   for me, this would be a very difficult movie to watch based on the realities of it, but hopefully to gain some sort of peace due to the fact that i believe the story line ends on a triumphant note.  the subject matter however, knowing how pervasive it remains cannot get more disturbing

    side note-WHY??
(The Center Square) – The California State Assembly this week voted to revise the state’s penal code that regulates the registration of sex offenders by passing SB-145. The revision of the bill would allow pedophiles to not be registered on the sex offender list as long as they are not 10 years older than the minor they were convicted of molesting.

  we should not be making our laws easier to commit sex offenses on anyone, but that is just my opinion

   

 


 

[withoutbias]

we should not be making our laws easier to commit sex offenses on anyone, but that is just my opinion

Will bad people find ways to do bad things regardless of laws? Or is that only when it comes to firearms?

[Skatastrophy]

    i am quite frankly confused and disappointed in some initial reactions to the movie "sounds of freedom"

     -the topic of child sex trafficking, regardless of how anyone wants to frame it, should NEVER be minimized
     -is some of it by associations?  if so, very unfortunately short sighted.
     -seems our border which has become a sieve has opened up the floodgates to this absolutely evil reality that needs as much attention as the drug and fentanyl fiascos among many others that have been created. 

   for me, this would be a very difficult movie to watch based on the realities of it, but hopefully to gain some sort of peace due to the fact that i believe the story line ends on a triumphant note.  the subject matter however, knowing how pervasive it remains cannot get more disturbing

    side note-WHY??
(The Center Square) – The California State Assembly this week voted to revise the state’s penal code that regulates the registration of sex offenders by passing SB-145. The revision of the bill would allow pedophiles to not be registered on the sex offender list as long as they are not 10 years older than the minor they were convicted of molesting.

  we should not be making our laws easier to commit sex offenses on anyone, but that is just my opinion

You indent some (like half) of your posts like this. Are you typing them up in a word processing application before posting them to scoop or something? Just curious, found it interesting

[Hards Alumni]

    i am quite frankly confused and disappointed in some initial reactions to the movie "sounds of freedom"

     -the topic of child sex trafficking, regardless of how anyone wants to frame it, should NEVER be minimized
     -is some of it by associations?  if so, very unfortunately short sighted.
     -seems our border which has become a sieve has opened up the floodgates to this absolutely evil reality that needs as much attention as the drug and fentanyl fiascos among many others that have been created. 

   for me, this would be a very difficult movie to watch based on the realities of it, but hopefully to gain some sort of peace due to the fact that i believe the story line ends on a triumphant note.  the subject matter however, knowing how pervasive it remains cannot get more disturbing

    side note-WHY??
(The Center Square) – The California State Assembly this week voted to revise the state’s penal code that regulates the registration of sex offenders by passing SB-145. The revision of the bill would allow pedophiles to not be registered on the sex offender list as long as they are not 10 years older than the minor they were convicted of molesting.

  we should not be making our laws easier to commit sex offenses on anyone, but that is just my opinion

   

 


 

Who cares, it's just a dumb movie.  If you're going to movies to learn anything, you're headed to the wrong place for your information.

That you find it important to bring up this movie in its own thread rather than the "what are you watching" thread means you just want to get into some argument.

I'm sure that'll come along soon enough to sate your ego.

[rocket surgeon]

You indent some (like half) of your posts like this. Are you typing them up in a word processing application before posting them to scoop or something? Just curious, found it interesting

 no word processor, just change it up a little to hopefully make it more readable

[rocket surgeon]

Who cares, it's just a dumb movie.  If you're going to movies to learn anything, you're headed to the wrong place for your information.

That you find it important to bring up this movie in its own thread rather than the "what are you watching" thread means you just want to get into some argument.

I'm sure that'll come along soon enough to sate your ego.

      still sleeping it off i see, but didn't expect much more from you anyway.  you should have just sat this one out

[lawdog77]

no word processor, just change it up a little to hopefully make it more readable

[Pakuni]

     -seems our border which has become a sieve has opened up the floodgates to this absolutely evil reality that needs as much attention as the drug and fentanyl fiascos among many others that have been created. 

Here's your regular reminder that the vast, vast majority of fentanyl trafficked into the U.S. is brought in by American citizens at legal crossing points.

In 2021, U.S. citizens were 86.3 percent of convicted fentanyl drug traffickers—ten times greater than convictions of illegal immigrants for the same offense.

Over 90 percent of fentanyl seizures occur at legal crossing points or interior vehicle checkpoints, not on illegal migration routes


https://www.cato.org/blog/fentanyl-smuggled-us-citizens-us-citizens-not-asylum-seekers

    side note-WHY??
(The Center Square) – The California State Assembly this week voted to revise the state’s penal code that regulates the registration of sex offenders by passing SB-145. The revision of the bill would allow pedophiles to not be registered on the sex offender list as long as they are not 10 years older than the minor they were convicted of molesting.

  we should not be making our laws easier to commit sex offenses on anyone, but that is just my opinion

So, this is almost three years old, and it in no way makes it easier to commit sex offenses.

Though this paragraph is perfect:
Along with opposition from Republicans in the state Legislature, supporters of President Trump and far-right conspiracy theorists have seized on the bill in an attempt to use the measure as a political wedge issue and rallying cry, with some falsely claiming on social media that California is legalizing pedophilia.


https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2020-09-11/sb145-sex-crimes-law-gavin-newsom-lgbtq-rights

[Uncle Rico]

Here's your regular reminder that the vast, vast majority of fentanyl trafficked into the U.S. is brought in by American citizens at legal crossing points.

In 2021, U.S. citizens were 86.3 percent of convicted fentanyl drug traffickers—ten times greater than convictions of illegal immigrants for the same offense.

Over 90 percent of fentanyl seizures occur at legal crossing points or interior vehicle checkpoints, not on illegal migration routes


https://www.cato.org/blog/fentanyl-smuggled-us-citizens-us-citizens-not-asylum-seekers


   for me, this would be a very difficult movie to watch based on the realities of it, but hopefully to gain some sort of peace due to the fact that i believe the story line ends on a triumphant note.  the subject matter however, knowing how pervasive it remains cannot get more disturbing


So, this is almost three years old, and it in no way makes it easier to commit sex offenses.

Though this paragraph is perfect:
Along with opposition from Republicans in the state Legislature, supporters of President Trump and far-right conspiracy theorists have seized on the bill in an attempt to use the measure as a political wedge issue and rallying cry, with some falsely claiming on social media that California is legalizing pedophilia.


https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2020-09-11/sb145-sex-crimes-law-gavin-newsom-lgbtq-rights

If California wants to legalize pedophilia, they should invite more Catholic Churches to the state

The reason more fentanyl isn’t coming over the border is because Mexico built a wall

[WhiteTrash]

If California wants to legalize pedophilia, they should invite more Catholic Churches to the state

The reason more fentanyl isn’t coming over the border is because Mexico built a wall

Since people here are are being technical and factually correct in this thread:

There are almost no cases of priests committing actual pedophilia.

<note to all here who are anti-Catholic: the statement above does not excuse or minimize the criminal acts committed>

[Pakuni]

Since people here are are being technical and factually correct in this thread:

There are almost no cases of priests committing actual pedophilia.

<note to all here who are anti-Catholic: the statement above does not excuse or minimize the criminal acts committed>

Uhhh ... define "almost no" and "pedophilia."

[WhiteTrash]

Here's your regular reminder that the vast, vast majority of fentanyl trafficked into the U.S. is brought in by American citizens at legal crossing points.

In 2021, U.S. citizens were 86.3 percent of convicted fentanyl drug traffickers—ten times greater than convictions of illegal immigrants for the same offense.

Over 90 percent of fentanyl seizures occur at legal crossing points or interior vehicle checkpoints, not on illegal migration routes

This is correct: 99.9% of illegal immigrants are going through checkpoints so the chances of catching drugs at non-checkpoints is the same as all other boarder crossing points. 

Facts need context people.

[WhiteTrash]

Uhhh ... define "almost no" and "pedophilia."

Pedophilia is sex with a pre-pubescent person.

Pedophilia is very rare in the world.

The cases I'm aware of were middle and high school age children.

Keep in mind, for the majority of human existence, marriage by age 13 was not uncommon. The mother of a woman, I work with, was married by 14 and is still married after 60 years. She and her husband (who was 17) are wonderful people with kids and grand kids.   

[Skatastrophy]

Pedophilia is sex with a pre-pubescent person.

Pedophilia is very rare in the world.

The cases I'm aware of were middle and high school age children.

Keep in mind, for the majority of human existence, marriage by age 13 was not uncommon. The mother of a woman, I work with, was married by 14 and is still married after 60 years. She and her husband (who was 17) are wonderful people with kids and grand kids.   

I see this argument a lot (mincing words about paedophilia vs ephebophilia) from folks in the MAP (minor attracted person) community. Creeps me the eff out.

[Pakuni]

Pedophilia is sex with a pre-pubescent person.

Pedophilia is very rare in the world.

So much for that theory.
The John Jay report commissioned by the  United States Conference of Catholic Bishops in 2002 examined about 11,000 cases involving nearly 4,400 priests. It found that 22% of the victims were 10 years old or younger.
That's roughly 2,420 cases.
In what world is that "almost no cases?"

https://www.bishop-accountability.org/reports/2004_02_27_JohnJay_revised/2004_02_27_John_Jay_Main_Report_Optimized.pdf

Keep in mind, for the majority of human existence, marriage by age 13 was not uncommon.

Yeah, this is largely false and very creepy.

[Hards Alumni]

      still sleeping it off i see, but didn't expect much more from you anyway.  you should have just sat this one out

Sit what out?  Your attempt at rage baiting?

Grow up, old man.

[lawdog77]

Keep in mind, for the majority of human existence, marriage by age 13 was not uncommon.

So was slavery. Hopefully we have evolved

[Hards Alumni]

Pedophilia is sex with a pre-pubescent person.

Pedophilia is very rare in the world.

The cases I'm aware of were middle and high school age children.

Keep in mind, for the majority of human existence, marriage by age 13 was not uncommon. The mother of a woman, I work with, was married by 14 and is still married after 60 years. She and her husband (who was 17) are wonderful people with kids and grand kids.

Super dangerous ground you're treading on here.

[Uncle Rico]

Keep in mind, for the majority of human existence, marriage by age 13 was not uncommon. The mother of a woman, I work with, was married by 14 and is still married after 60 years. She and her husband (who was 17) are wonderful people with kids and grand kids.

I’m well aware of the world evangelicals want back

[Jockey]

Pedophilia is sex with a pre-pubescent person.

Pedophilia is very rare in the world.

The cases I'm aware of were middle and high school age children.

Keep in mind, for the majority of human existence, marriage by age 13 was not uncommon. The mother of a woman, I work with, was married by 14 and is still married after 60 years. She and her husband (who was 17) are wonderful people with kids and grand kids.

Isn’t that kinda like the “I have a black friend” argument?

[Dickthedribbler]

I see this argument a lot (mincing words about paedophilia vs ephebophilia) from folks in the MAP (minor attracted person) community. Creeps me the eff out.

Minor Attracted Person???

Why don't you just say F-ing Pervert. Why mince words.

[Hards Alumni]

Minor Attracted Person???

Why don't you just say F-ing Pervert. Why mince words.

Because it is how they refer to themselves.  Better to know the code they use to spot em.

[ZiggysFryBoy]

Because it is how they refer to themselves.  Better to know the code they use to spot em.

It's how they are trying to normalize their twisted behavior.

[Hards Alumni]

It's how they are trying to normalize their twisted behavior.

100%

[reinko]

Just coincidence I’m sure that the founder and “star” of this film steps down as the CEO of the nonprofit he founded.

[WhiteTrash]

Isn’t that kinda like the “I have a black friend” argument?

Not even close. The intent was to point out that people marrying at very young ages was alive and well in the US as recently as 60 years ago and those people are not weirdos.

Personally I would never advise anyone to marry before 25.

[WhiteTrash]

Super dangerous ground you're treading on here.

I didn't open the door on this issue.

I didn't ask for the definition of pedophile.

People who commit those crimes deserve a special place in hell. Priest that do that deserve even worse.

People who state or imply that Catholics are pedophiles are ignorant and I'd question what other groups they make ugly generalizations about. 

[reinko]

Not even close. The intent was to point out that people marrying at very young ages was alive and well in the US as recently as 60 years ago and those people are not weirdos.

Personally I would never advise anyone to marry before 25.

Their parents who permitted it are the weirdos(as are the state governments who have laws allowing this).  Just as those parents who would approve of their 14 or 15 year old son or daughter to marry in 2023.  All weirdos

[WhiteTrash]

So much for that theory.
The John Jay report commissioned by the  United States Conference of Catholic Bishops in 2002 examined about 11,000 cases involving nearly 4,400 priests. It found that 22% of the victims were 10 years old or younger.
That's roughly 2,420 cases.
In what world is that "almost no cases?"

https://www.bishop-accountability.org/reports/2004_02_27_JohnJay_revised/2004_02_27_John_Jay_Main_Report_Optimized.pdf

Yeah, this is largely false and very creepy.

I stand corrected on my statement. I was not aware of the study, my perception was based upon news reports over the years. I will not make that error again. Thanks for the correction.

[Jay Bee]

People who state or imply that Catholics are pedophiles are ignorant and I'd question what other groups they make ugly generalizations about.

LA Dodgers think such folks should be celebrated

[Jockey]

People who state or imply that Catholics are pedophiles are ignorant and I'd question what other groups they make ugly generalizations about.

I don't know that anyone accused catholics of being pedophiles.

I think many, including me, have accused catholic priests of such behavior. based on mountains of evidence.

[Pakuni]

Not even close. The intent was to point out that people marrying at very young ages was alive and well in the US as recently as 60 years ago and those people are not weirdos.

Personally I would never advise anyone to marry before 25.

Marrying at very young ages (under 13, by your definition) was alive and well, but certainly not the norm 60 years ago, or even 600 years ago. Or even 1,600 years ago.
I'm not saying you fall in with this group, but that line of argument has been used commonly by older creeps to justify preying on teenage girls.

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

Because it is how they refer to themselves.  Better to know the code they use to spot em.

"Intergenerational relationships" is the other code word to look out for

[ZiggysFryBoy]

"Intergenerational relationships" is the other code word to look out for

Or "IR"

One of our software programs at work has the IR initials.  I type out the whole word now after learning that abbreviation.

[jficke13]

I was hoping this was going to be about the strikes.

Womp womp.