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2024-25 NFL Thread

Started by Herman Cain, July 08, 2023, 07:41:44 AM

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Pakuni


DegenerateDish

Quote from: The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole on April 23, 2024, 08:25:33 PM
https://x.com/royalpratt/status/1782931428411367671?s=46&t=ppua9BCUAa7dWM9-SthPmg

That is really a dumb idea. Why would Chicago even touch that price tag?

Friends of the Park will thankfully take care of this stupid idea.

Not one dime should come from Illinois taxpayers. I can't wait to hear their plan tomorrow.

DegenerateDish

Quote from: Pakuni on April 23, 2024, 08:33:00 PM
Kevin Warren's ego may be bigger than any of us imagined.

Courtney Cronin, who is usually a solid reporter, wrote a puff piece (another one!) on Warren yesterday.

It's really something else.

The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole

I mean, what exactly are the Bears even doing here? This entire stadium escapade has been one misstep after another. Almost like the McCaskeys are TRYING to prove how dysfunctional their ownership has become.
Matthew 25:40: Truly I tell you, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers and sisters of mine, you did for me.

The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole

Quote from: DegenerateDish on April 23, 2024, 08:37:27 PM
Courtney Cronin, who is usually a solid reporter, wrote a puff piece (another one!) on Warren yesterday.

It's really something else.

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/39974445/nfl-draft-bears-president-kevin-warren-caleb-williams

"It was early March, and Chicago Bears general manager Ryan Poles was having dinner with team president Kevin Warren. It was one of several dinners they would share during a critical two-week span, and among the main topics of conversation was what to do about quarterback Justin Fields.

The Bears have the No. 1 pick in the draft on Thursday and they're expected to take USC quarterback Caleb Williams. That meant Fields was going to be traded.

"I could tell it was one of those situations in which I needed to be close to him, and he needed to be close to me, just to be able to talk through this issue," Warren said of Poles."
Matthew 25:40: Truly I tell you, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers and sisters of mine, you did for me.

RJax55

Quote from: The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole on April 23, 2024, 08:40:04 PM
I mean, what exactly are the Bears even doing here? This entire stadium escapade has been one misstep after another. Almost like the McCaskeys are TRYING to prove how dysfunctional their ownership has become.

This is what happens when a pro franchise goes from being a business and morphs into a family heirloom.

The family needs to keep the team for the legacy especially as the matriarch is still alive, but the younger generation has little interest or knowledge in actually running it. So instead, you hire a opportunist eager to fill the power vacuum.


WhiteTrash

Quote from: Pakuni on April 23, 2024, 08:33:00 PM
Kevin Warren's ego may be bigger than any of us imagined.
$4.6B?? WTF? Jerry's World was only like $1B. SoFi was like $5B but I think that included the land.   

RJax55

Quote from: WhiteTrash on April 23, 2024, 09:01:02 PM
$4.6B?? WTF? Jerry's World was only like $1B. SoFi was like $5B but I think that included the land.

AT&T stadium was built 15 years ago. Not a great comp anymore

WhiteTrash

Quote from: RJax55 on April 23, 2024, 09:05:19 PM
AT&T stadium was built 15 years ago. Not a great comp anymore
I didn't realized its been 15 years already. Time flies.

Still maybe not apples to apples, but inflations in about 40%-45% in the past 15 years. Could fairly say its twice as much as AT&T in todays dollars?


Pakuni

#3284
Quote from: RJax55 on April 23, 2024, 09:05:19 PM
AT&T stadium was built 15 years ago. Not a great comp anymore

Allegiant Stadium was $1.9 billion.
Mercedes-Benz was $1.6 billion.
Buffalo's is projected at $1.7 billion.

Cost isn't really thr issue. Bears can spend whatever they want. But expecting $2.3 billion from the public is quite the ask. Vegas got $750 million in public money, which was the record high at the time. Buffalo is getting $850 million. Asking for nearly triple that is ... bold?

RJax55

Quote from: Pakuni on April 23, 2024, 09:24:45 PM
Allegiant Stadium was $1.9 billion.
Mercedes-Benz was $1.6 billion.

These are better comps.

DegenerateDish

I'm irrationally excited to see how they try to pull this off tomorrow.

WhiteTrash

#3287
Quote from: RJax55 on April 23, 2024, 09:28:08 PM
These are better comps.
So adjusting for inflation and market, easily 2x as much as other NFL stadiums. Also, SoFi also includes a music venue, not just a stadium and they had to sink about 100' due to LAX.

Maybe the McCaskey's and Halas' get $1B in "management fees"?   ;)

WhiteTrash

Quote from: DegenerateDish on April 23, 2024, 09:36:42 PM
I'm irrationally excited to see how they try to pull this off tomorrow.
Me too.

Jockey

Just the Bears doing Bearsy things.

And to Sultan's point about Warren's ego - just wow.

As a Packer fan, I expect the usual from the Bears.

As a side note, does any city in America have a worse set of professional sports team owners?

GB Warrior

Couldn't they have basked in the joy of getting Caleb Williams for one day before announcing to the world they're going to get relegated to Schaumburg?

JWags85

Quote from: WhiteTrash on April 23, 2024, 09:40:05 PM
So adjusting for inflation and market, easily 2x as much as other NFL stadiums. Also, SoFi also includes a music venue, not just a stadium and they had to sink about 100' due to LAX.

Maybe the McCaskey's and Halas' get $1B in "management fees"?   ;)

To be fair, the stadium listed price tag was $3.2B, the additional money is for infrastructure improvements.  So not necessarily 2X, but still pricey.

And lets be honest, its not the McCaskeys pocketing extra cash, its the Chicago Machine.

WhiteTrash

Quote from: JWags85 on April 24, 2024, 06:45:15 AM
To be fair, the stadium listed price tag was $3.2B, the additional money is for infrastructure improvements.  So not necessarily 2X, but still pricey.

And lets be honest, its not the McCaskeys pocketing extra cash, its the Chicago Machine.
Not sure about the other stadiums discussed, but SoFi's cost included infrastructure also. I'd assume the others have infrastructure included but not certain about that.

I'm okay if the Daley family gets a little piece, it would make it feel 'right' in Chicago. :D

DegenerateDish

This presser has started out hitting every Kevin Warren point imaginable.

I don't want this to get political, but Brandon Johnson & Warren we're made to be BFF's.

DegenerateDish

Warren started the presser off with a prayer asking for wins and a stadium.

Can't make this stuff up.

Herman Cain

"It was a Great Day until it wasn't"
    ——Rory McIlroy on Final Round at Pinehurst

cheebs09

Quote from: DegenerateDish on April 24, 2024, 12:21:26 PM
Warren started the presser off with a prayer asking for wins and a stadium.

Can't make this stuff up.

I'm not  sure God could salvage the Bears at this point.

Jockey

Quote from: cheebs09 on April 24, 2024, 12:23:55 PM
I'm not  sure God could salvage the Bears at this point.

I think God especially hates men who wear pink fingernail polish.

jesmu84

Quote from: DegenerateDish on April 24, 2024, 12:17:31 PM
This presser has started out hitting every Kevin Warren point imaginable.

I don't want this to get political, but Brandon Johnson & Warren we're made to be BFF's.

https://x.com/BenBradleyTV/status/1783164958319968265

Lol

Uncle Rico

Just move them to Gary and get it over with
Ramsey head thoroughly up his ass.