2024-25 NFL Thread

[JWags85]

24 punts in the Jets - Giants game.

Need I say more?

A third string undrafted rookie QB, who was on the practice squad a month and change ago, going against one of the best defenses in the NFL.  Facing a pretty terrible QB and a struggling offense of their own.  Add to that terrible weather.  It had all the makings of one of the ugliest games of the year and boy did it ever deliver.

[Pakuni]

24 punts in the Jets - Giants game.

Need I say more?

Top two candidates for the Big 10's next expansion.

[jesmu84]

https://www.audacy.com/670thescore/sports/chicago-bears/bears-using-back-stabbing-whisper-campaign-injured-justin-fields

More on NBC coverage of Fields v Bagent

[HutchwasClutch]

Holy shyte Goff, that was one ridiculously stupid throw.

[MU82]

Garbage fumble call. Forward progress was obviously stopped. Ridiculous.

[DegenerateDish]

Every game McDaniels coaches is just stubbornly disjointed both in approach and execution. Every time the camera pans to him, he has the same look of "I hope this isn't the game I get exposed as a poor coach". It's just time to move on, be it now or at season's end.

Outside of ownership, that should otherwise be an attractive gig. High draft pick forthcoming, lots of cap season this offseason.

[DegenerateDish]

I don't understand not paying Jaylon Johnson, who isn't asking for elite CB1 money. Makes no sense.

[jesmu84]

I don't understand not paying Jaylon Johnson, who isn't asking for elite CB1 money. Makes no sense.

Poles and/or Eberflus only want "their" guys?

Would explain JJ, roquan, treatment of Fields, etc

[Jockey]

Poles and/or Eberflus only want "their" guys?

Would explain JJ, roquan, treatment of Fields, etc

They traded Roquan and then signed a far inferior player for basically the same amount.

Poles and Eberflus are bad at their jobs.

[Pakuni]

Ian Rapoport
@RapSheet

Sources: The #Bears and #Commanders are in agreement on a massive trade for star pass-rusher Montez Sweat to land in Chicago in exchange for a 2nd round pick.

[DegenerateDish]

I'd rather have had Young over Sweat. 2nd rounder in 2024 feels steep.

[WhiteTrash]

Does Sweat last the day on the Bears? 2nd round pick on that guy who's a FA in 2 months? It has to be capital for another trade, right?

[jficke13]

I bet they have an extension for him lined up, only way a 2 makes any sense.

[Pakuni]

Does Sweat last the day on the Bears? 2nd round pick on that guy who's a FA in 2 months? It has to be capital for another trade, right?

Sounds like they hope to resign him. They have no lack of cap space to do it.
Just wonder if an early second plus a big contract is an overpay for a 27-year-old who's never had a double-digit sack season (though is on pace for one now) and never been asked to be "the guy" along a defensive front.

[MUBurrow]

Sounds like they hope to resign him. They have no lack of cap space to do it.
Just wonder if an early second plus a big contract is an overpay for a 27-year-old who's never had a double-digit sack season (though is on pace for one now) and never been asked to be "the guy" along a defensive front.

Yeah, I don't get it.  Did they need to give up a 2 for the privilege of offering him a market extension and taking on his remaining 2023 injury risk in an uncompetitive year?

[DegenerateDish]

Yeah, I don't get it.  Did they need to give up a 2 for the privilege of offering him a market extension and taking on his remaining 2023 injury risk in an uncompetitive year?

Yup, they could have just gone after him in the offseason, paid a similar price to whatever they'll pay him now, and not given up a 2nd round pick.

Dumb (again).

[Uncle Rico]

Yup, they could have just gone after him in the offseason, paid a similar price to whatever they'll pay him now, and not given up a 2nd round pick.

Dumb (again).

Agreed.  I'm sure the thinking is this gives them a leg up on re-signing him but unless it's an overpay, he should hit the market.  Lot can change in Chicago in the next 6-8 months from top-to-bottom organization-wise

[MU82]

We'd have taken our #1 back in exchange for Brian Burns!

[Silkk the Shaka]

Yup, they could have just gone after him in the offseason, paid a similar price to whatever they'll pay him now, and not given up a 2nd round pick.

Dumb (again).

Maybe. But also maybe another team was going to trade for him and sign him to an extension before the offseason as well, and the 2nd rounder was what it took to outbid them.

If the Bears feel they're good at QB they can charge a ransom (potentially 2x times) to move back not that far in 2024 and still fill out a bunch of needs. Getting a guaranteed quality pass rusher still in his prime is a good use of their 2nd rounder in that case, those guys usually go top 5/10 in the draft.

[RJax55]

Yup, they could have just gone after him in the offseason, paid a similar price to whatever they'll pay him now, and not given up a 2nd round pick.

Dumb (again).

A jittery GM. Poles lack of experience is showing. Same thing happened last year.

Got all jittery that the 2023 WR market was going to be bad, so he forces the Claypool deal. Of course, DJ Moore becomes available in the off-season.

Same deal here. All jittery about the 2024 DE market. So, he forces this deal to ensure he gets Sweat. Likely Sweat was going to be available in March anyway.

Just dumb. This goddamn organization.

[RJax55]

Maybe. But also maybe another team was going to trade for him and sign him to an extension before the offseason as well, and the 2nd rounder was what it took to outbid them.

If the Bears feel they're good at QB they can charge a ransom (potentially 2x times) to move back not that far in 2024 and still fill out a bunch of needs. Getting a guaranteed quality pass rusher still in his prime is a good use of their 2nd rounder in that case, those guys usually go top 5/10 in the draft.

The Bears will be drafting a QB in the 1st Round in April.

[The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole]

Maybe. But also maybe another team was going to trade for him and sign him to an extension before the offseason as well, and the 2nd rounder was what it took to outbid them.

Then evaluating Sweat as worth a second round pick is another problem.  For a team that made a big deal of stockpiling picks the last couple of years, they certainly don't seem to mind trading them for fairly routine players. 

[JWags85]

FWIW, the response to the Sweat deal has been seemingly fairly positive, which wasn't the case for Claypool.

[Silkk the Shaka]

Then evaluating Sweat as worth a second round pick is another problem.  For a team that made a big deal of stockpiling picks the last couple of years, they certainly don't seem to mind trading them for fairly routine players.

Chances of finding a DE of equal or better value than Sweat in the top of the second round are pretty poor. Then even if you do, those guys take 2-3 years to develop typically.

[WhiteTrash]

Chances of finding a DE of equal or better value than Sweat in the top of the second round are pretty poor. Then even if you do, those guys take 2-3 years to develop typically.

The Bears are most definitely in a position to wait 2-3 years. They will have a rookie QB next year and the best players are young.