collapse

* Stud of DePaul Game

Tyler Kolek

3 points, 1 rebound,
18 (!!!) assists, 2 steals,
26 minutes

2023-24 Season SoG Tally
Kolek9
Ighodaro6
Jones, K.3
Jones, S.1
Joplin1

'22-23
'21-22 * '20-21 * '19-20
'18-19 * '17-18 * '16-17
'15-16 * '14-15 * '13-14
'12-13 * '11-12 * '10-11

* Big East Standings

* Recent Posts

Please Register - It's FREE!

The absolute only thing required for this FREE registration is a valid e-mail address.  We keep all your information confidential and will NEVER give or sell it to anyone else.
Login to get rid of this box (and ads) , or register NOW!

* Next up: Xavier

Marquette
105
Marquette vs

Xavier

Date/Time: Feb 25, 2024, 4:00 pm
TV: FS1
Schedule for 2023-24
DePaul
71

Author Topic: MU's next NBA prospect  (Read 5531 times)

We R Final Four

  • All American
  • *****
  • Posts: 6518
Re: MU's next NBA prospect
« Reply #25 on: May 16, 2023, 08:08:14 PM »
I think its Ben. I think Shaka and staff will get the most out of Ben this off season and upcoming season. A near 7’ stretch who can hit the open 3 as well as drive the hoop and finish in traffic will be desired by the next level.

Otule's Glass Eye

  • All American
  • *****
  • Posts: 1356
Re: MU's next NBA prospect
« Reply #26 on: May 16, 2023, 08:26:54 PM »
I think its Ben. I think Shaka and staff will get the most out of Ben this off season and upcoming season. A near 7’ stretch who can hit the open 3 as well as drive the hoop and finish in traffic will be desired by the next level.

I agree. And his defense wasn’t too shabby last year either

MUHoopsFan2

  • All American
  • *****
  • Posts: 665
Re: MU's next NBA prospect
« Reply #27 on: May 17, 2023, 12:05:59 AM »
I agree. And his defense wasn’t too shabby last year either
It's Kam Jones....hands down.

Easily.

With that jumper and size. Look out. 

The Sultan of Semantics

  • All American
  • *****
  • Posts: 10925
  • "Private message me coward" - panda
Re: MU's next NBA prospect
« Reply #28 on: May 17, 2023, 04:02:25 AM »
It's Kam Jones....hands down.

Easily.

With that jumper and size. Look out. 

He’s 6’4”. Not really big from an NBA perspective.

And he shot 36% from three last year - 82nd in the country. That’s good. But not stellar.
“True patriotism hates injustice in its own land more than anywhere else.” - Clarence Darrow

Jay Bee

  • All American
  • *****
  • Posts: 8866
Re: MU's next NBA prospect
« Reply #29 on: May 17, 2023, 12:02:18 PM »
And he shot 36% from three last year - 82nd in the country. That’s good. But not stellar.

I love Kam, but you're giving him too much credit.

He was #82 FOR THOSE WHO QUALIFIED FOR THE 3FG% INDIVIDUAL HONOR. You have to make a ton of triples to qualify. There were only 98 who did this past year. So, he was ranked #82 out of 98. Good?

If you use a different cut.. for example.. all players who made at least 60 3FG during the season.. or ~2 per game on average... there were 298 players. Kam ranks #197 in that group of 298.
Thanks for ruining summer, Canada.

bilsu

  • Registered User
  • All American
  • *****
  • Posts: 8779
Re: MU's next NBA prospect
« Reply #30 on: May 17, 2023, 12:29:43 PM »
Watching the first quarter of the first game in the Boston/Philadelphia series made me think Kolek could play for Boston, because of the way they were driving and kicking the ball out to shooters.

The Sultan of Semantics

  • All American
  • *****
  • Posts: 10925
  • "Private message me coward" - panda
Re: MU's next NBA prospect
« Reply #31 on: May 17, 2023, 12:53:01 PM »
I love Kam, but you're giving him too much credit.

He was #82 FOR THOSE WHO QUALIFIED FOR THE 3FG% INDIVIDUAL HONOR. You have to make a ton of triples to qualify. There were only 98 who did this past year. So, he was ranked #82 out of 98. Good?

If you use a different cut.. for example.. all players who made at least 60 3FG during the season.. or ~2 per game on average... there were 298 players. Kam ranks #197 in that group of 298.


Thank you for the clarification - I certainly did give him more credit than he deserves even though I was disputing the point he has a good jumper.
“True patriotism hates injustice in its own land more than anywhere else.” - Clarence Darrow

The Sultan of Semantics

  • All American
  • *****
  • Posts: 10925
  • "Private message me coward" - panda
Re: MU's next NBA prospect
« Reply #32 on: May 17, 2023, 12:55:14 PM »
Watching the first quarter of the first game in the Boston/Philadelphia series made me think Kolek could play for Boston, because of the way they were driving and kicking the ball out to shooters.

Tyler's top end comp is Jalen Brunson. Now it could take some work to get there because Brunson took awhile to his his stride, but I think TK has a brighter future than some believe.
“True patriotism hates injustice in its own land more than anywhere else.” - Clarence Darrow

tower912

  • Registered User
  • All American
  • *****
  • Posts: 22707
Re: MU's next NBA prospect
« Reply #33 on: May 17, 2023, 12:57:09 PM »
Tyler's top end comp is Jalen Brunson. Now it could take some work to get there because Brunson took awhile to his his stride, but I think TK has a brighter future than some believe.
Where have I heard that before?
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

FartyEightHours

  • Starter
  • ***
  • Posts: 168
Re: MU's next NBA prospect
« Reply #34 on: May 17, 2023, 02:08:12 PM »
Gold is the next NBA guy.  Guy is a dynamic athlete and has shown the touch from 3.  Plus you can’t teach 7 ft tall.
My adjectives are wise, brilliant, and sexy

BM1090

  • All American
  • *****
  • Posts: 5777
Re: MU's next NBA prospect
« Reply #35 on: May 17, 2023, 02:32:41 PM »
Agree on Gold. He obviously has some things to iron out but he made some plays last year that really stood out. Reminded me a bit of O-Max in year one where you could see the potential but he just was starting to put it together.

Expect a big jump from him each of the next two years.

MU82

  • All American
  • *****
  • Posts: 22226
Re: MU's next NBA prospect
« Reply #36 on: May 17, 2023, 02:46:10 PM »
Whoever it is, there will be numerous Scoopers saying that he won't leave for the NBA because "he's not ready."
“It’s not how white men fight.” - Tucker Carlson

We R Final Four

  • All American
  • *****
  • Posts: 6518
Re: MU's next NBA prospect
« Reply #37 on: May 17, 2023, 03:17:03 PM »
Whoever it is, there will be numerous Scoopers saying that he won't leave for the NBA because "he's not ready."
Exactly. Or that he will test the NBA draft waters but undoubtedly return to MU.

Goose

  • All American
  • *****
  • Posts: 10212
Re: MU's next NBA prospect
« Reply #38 on: May 17, 2023, 03:23:25 PM »
I will never again say a guy cannot make the NBA after watching Juan Anderson and Jamal Cain make it. That said, of the returning guys under 6-5 I don't think any of them ending playing in the NBA for any length of time. Again, I would never bet against anyone and hope a number of guys make it. I am sticking with Gold and think it could be a year from now.

TAMU, Knower of Ball

  • All American
  • *****
  • Posts: 21841
  • Meat Eater certified
Re: MU's next NBA prospect
« Reply #39 on: May 17, 2023, 03:24:21 PM »
Exactly. Or that he will test the NBA draft waters but undoubtedly return to MU.

We are a pretty pessimistic lot. I don't think I've ever seen someone post a player testing the waters "will undoubtedly return to MU"
TAMU

I do know, Newsie is right on you knowing ball.


We R Final Four

  • All American
  • *****
  • Posts: 6518
Re: MU's next NBA prospect
« Reply #40 on: May 17, 2023, 03:47:27 PM »
Several posters said they expect OMax to get valuable info from the nba and return to MU next season.
Same was said of JLew.

TAMU, Knower of Ball

  • All American
  • *****
  • Posts: 21841
  • Meat Eater certified
Re: MU's next NBA prospect
« Reply #41 on: May 17, 2023, 10:59:39 PM »
Several posters said they expect OMax to get valuable info from the nba and return to MU next season.
Same was said of JLew.

Expecting and undoubtedly returning are two very different things
TAMU

I do know, Newsie is right on you knowing ball.


We R Final Four

  • All American
  • *****
  • Posts: 6518
Re: MU's next NBA prospect
« Reply #42 on: May 18, 2023, 07:16:30 AM »
Were you a scooper expecting OMax to return ?

TAMU, Knower of Ball

  • All American
  • *****
  • Posts: 21841
  • Meat Eater certified
Re: MU's next NBA prospect
« Reply #43 on: May 18, 2023, 09:29:15 AM »
Were you a scooper expecting OMax to return ?

No. I was close to 50/50 until he got an NBA combine invite.
TAMU

I do know, Newsie is right on you knowing ball.


Hards Alumni

  • All American
  • *****
  • Posts: 6398
Re: MU's next NBA prospect
« Reply #44 on: May 18, 2023, 09:29:51 AM »
After watching where Juan Anderson started as a college freshman and where he is now, and after watching Jamal Cain sitting on the Heat bench during the Bucks' series, albeit in street clothes, I would never say never about any of this stuff. Not ripping these guys------those are compliments. Just sayin'.

The two guys you named were athletic freaks when they walked in the door at MU.

Hards Alumni

  • All American
  • *****
  • Posts: 6398
Re: MU's next NBA prospect
« Reply #45 on: May 18, 2023, 09:32:13 AM »
Watching the first quarter of the first game in the Boston/Philadelphia series made me think Kolek could play for Boston, because of the way they were driving and kicking the ball out to shooters.

But the issue is that the guy who is driving has to be a legitimate threat to score at the hoop in the NBA.

Tyler is crafty for the college level, but I wouldn't expect him to drive the lane in the NBA with much success.

brewcity77

  • All American
  • *****
  • Posts: 26274
  • Warning-This poster may trigger thin skinned users
    • Cracked Sidewalks
Re: MU's next NBA prospect
« Reply #46 on: May 18, 2023, 11:23:35 AM »
Were you a scooper expecting OMax to return ?

Before he declared and just after he did, I thought he would likely be back. Every indication since has moved it further and further from that likelihood, and now I don't expect him back.
This space reserved for a 2024 National Championship celebration banner.

bilsu

  • Registered User
  • All American
  • *****
  • Posts: 8779
Re: MU's next NBA prospect
« Reply #47 on: May 18, 2023, 02:35:20 PM »
But the issue is that the guy who is driving has to be a legitimate threat to score at the hoop in the NBA.

Tyler is crafty for the college level, but I wouldn't expect him to drive the lane in the NBA with much success.
Sam Hauser has a place in the NBA, so you do not have to be a super athlete.

Goose

  • All American
  • *****
  • Posts: 10212
Re: MU's next NBA prospect
« Reply #48 on: May 18, 2023, 02:39:02 PM »
Biggest knock on Kolek is his age. He will be 23y after next season. That is great for MU next season, but not so great on being drafted.

Hards Alumni

  • All American
  • *****
  • Posts: 6398
Re: MU's next NBA prospect
« Reply #49 on: May 18, 2023, 02:48:24 PM »
Sam Hauser has a place in the NBA, so you do not have to be a super athlete.

Obviously.  But that isn't what you said.  You said drive and kick.  Kolek won't be able to pull that off in the NBA the way he is able to in college.