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[Hards Alumni]

100%, I vaguely know how resumes are submitted but I haven't applied for a job since 2015 or so. Eventually your network does the heavy lifting. That isn't exactly helpful advice for a young person, though.

I have a friend that had been looking for a job for a year to fit what he wanted, and what finally got him a position was networking through one of my other friends.  Less than a week after working together he had a new job.

[Jay Bee]

I have a friend that had been looking for a job for a year to fit what he wanted, and what finally got him a position was networking through one of my other friends.  Less than a week after working together he had a new job.

Can bro get me a discount on an order of large fries?

[Hards Alumni]

Can bro get me a discount on an order of large fries?

Not unless he can get one of his semi drivers to you... plus, even with a discount, I'm not sure you'd be able to afford it.

[muwarrior69]

100%, I vaguely know how resumes are submitted but I haven't applied for a job since 2015 or so. Eventually your network does the heavy lifting. That isn't exactly helpful advice for a young person, though.

For my daughter her community college teachers were her network as a good percentage have full time positions and teach part time. One was actually her hiring manager for her first job after graduating with her BA.

[MU82]

From Axios morning e-newsletter:

The wildest, scariest, indisputable truth about AI's large language models is that the companies building them don't know exactly why or how they work, Jim VandeHei and Mike Allen write in a "Behind the Curtain" column.

Sit with that for a moment. The most powerful companies, racing to build the most powerful superhuman intelligence capabilities — ones they readily admit occasionally go rogue to make things up, or even threaten their users — don't know why their machines do what they do.

Why it matters: With the companies pouring hundreds of billions of dollars into willing superhuman intelligence into a quick existence, and Washington doing nothing to slow or police them, it seems worth dissecting this Great Unknown.

None of the AI companies dispute this. They marvel at the mystery — and muse about it publicly. They're working feverishly to better understand it. They argue you don't need to fully understand a technology to tame or trust it.

Two years ago, Axios managing editor for tech Scott Rosenberg wrote a story, "AI's scariest mystery," saying it's common knowledge among AI developers that they can't always explain or predict their systems' behavior. And that's more true than ever.

Yet there's no sign that the government or companies or general public will demand any deeper understanding — or scrutiny — of building a technology with capabilities beyond human understanding. They're convinced the race to beat China to the most advanced LLMs warrants the risk of the Great Unknown.

The House, despite knowing so little about AI, tucked language into President Trump's "Big, Beautiful Bill" that would prohibit states and localities from any AI regulations for 10 years. The Senate is considering limitations on the provision.

Neither the AI companies nor Congress understands the power of AI a year from now, much less a decade from now.

[NCMUFan]

Took class from University of Minnesota called Design of Intelligent Systems in early 1990s.  Focused on Fuzzy Logic and Neural Networks.  Took another class from Georgia Tech in early 1980s called Decision Theory.  AI has been here for a while folks.

[MU82]

I didn't take any AI classes, but I saw the movie with Haley Joel Osment and Jude Law.

[MU82]

Speaking of AI classes ...

From The AP: How scammers are using AI to steal college financial aid

https://apnews.com/article/ai-scam-college-financial-aid-identity-theft-aa1bc8bcb4c368ee6bafcf6a523c5fb2?

It was an unusual question coming from a police officer. Heather Brady was napping at home in San Francisco on a Sunday afternoon when the officer knocked on her door to ask: Had she applied to Arizona Western College?

She had not, and as the officer suspected, somebody else had applied to Arizona community colleges in her name to scam the government into paying out financial aid money.

When she checked her student loan servicer account, Brady saw the scammers hadn't stopped there. A loan for over $9,000 had been paid out in her name — but to another person — for coursework at a California college.

"I just can't imagine how many people this is happening to that have no idea," Brady said.

The rise of artificial intelligence and the popularity of online classes have led to an explosion of financial aid fraud. Fake college enrollments have been surging as crime rings deploy "ghost students" — chatbots that join online classrooms and stay just long enough to collect a financial aid check.

In some cases, professors discover almost no one in their class is real. Students get locked out of the classes they need to graduate as bots push courses over their enrollment limits. And victims of identity theft who discover loans fraudulently taken out in their names must go through months of calling colleges, the Federal Student Aid office and loan servicers to try to get the debt erased.

[NCMUFan]

Speaking of AI classes ...

From The AP: How scammers are using AI to steal college financial aid

https://apnews.com/article/ai-scam-college-financial-aid-identity-theft-aa1bc8bcb4c368ee6bafcf6a523c5fb2?

It was an unusual question coming from a police officer. Heather Brady was napping at home in San Francisco on a Sunday afternoon when the officer knocked on her door to ask: Had she applied to Arizona Western College?

She had not, and as the officer suspected, somebody else had applied to Arizona community colleges in her name to scam the government into paying out financial aid money.

When she checked her student loan servicer account, Brady saw the scammers hadn't stopped there. A loan for over $9,000 had been paid out in her name — but to another person — for coursework at a California college.

"I just can't imagine how many people this is happening to that have no idea," Brady said.

The rise of artificial intelligence and the popularity of online classes have led to an explosion of financial aid fraud. Fake college enrollments have been surging as crime rings deploy "ghost students" — chatbots that join online classrooms and stay just long enough to collect a financial aid check.

In some cases, professors discover almost no one in their class is real. Students get locked out of the classes they need to graduate as bots push courses over their enrollment limits. And victims of identity theft who discover loans fraudulently taken out in their names must go through months of calling colleges, the Federal Student Aid office and loan servicers to try to get the debt erased.

Always someone ready to abuse.

[Jockey]

it's still early. Just wait until people really start abusing AI.

[forgetful]

Speaking of AI classes ...

From The AP: How scammers are using AI to steal college financial aid

https://apnews.com/article/ai-scam-college-financial-aid-identity-theft-aa1bc8bcb4c368ee6bafcf6a523c5fb2?

It was an unusual question coming from a police officer. Heather Brady was napping at home in San Francisco on a Sunday afternoon when the officer knocked on her door to ask: Had she applied to Arizona Western College?

She had not, and as the officer suspected, somebody else had applied to Arizona community colleges in her name to scam the government into paying out financial aid money.

When she checked her student loan servicer account, Brady saw the scammers hadn't stopped there. A loan for over $9,000 had been paid out in her name — but to another person — for coursework at a California college.

"I just can't imagine how many people this is happening to that have no idea," Brady said.

The rise of artificial intelligence and the popularity of online classes have led to an explosion of financial aid fraud. Fake college enrollments have been surging as crime rings deploy "ghost students" — chatbots that join online classrooms and stay just long enough to collect a financial aid check.

In some cases, professors discover almost no one in their class is real. Students get locked out of the classes they need to graduate as bots push courses over their enrollment limits. And victims of identity theft who discover loans fraudulently taken out in their names must go through months of calling colleges, the Federal Student Aid office and loan servicers to try to get the debt erased.

I know someone this happened too. It is becoming pretty widespread.

[jesmu84]

AI will be used for significant nefarious purposes moving forward.

No real surprise though, scammers gonna scam.

[MU82]

I know someone this happened too. It is becoming pretty widespread.

Sad to hear but hardly surprising.

We've already had 3 credit cards hacked this year, which thankfully is a more easily correctable scam.

[muwarrior69]

I didn't take any AI classes, but I saw the movie with Haley Joel Osment and Jude Law.

Speaking of Movies Google the 1970s the Forbin Project. An AI takes over the world threatening Nuclear annihilation if humans do not submit.

[MU82]

Speaking of Movies Google the 1970s the Forbin Project. An AI takes over the world threatening Nuclear annihilation if humans do not submit.

My best friend at Marquette and I still joke about a paper he wrote that was titled, "Computers: They Must Be Stopped"! He might have been right.

[tower912]

Speaking of Movies Google the 1970s the Forbin Project. An AI takes over the world threatening Nuclear annihilation if humans do not submit.

Back then, it was only computers and science fiction.   The good old days.

[Shaka Shart]

Well this is depressing

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/06/13/technology/chatgpt-ai-chatbots-conspiracies.html?unlocked_article_code=1.Ok8.H5wn.10loM4y2NmYP&smid=url-share

[Jockey]

Well this is depressing

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/06/13/technology/chatgpt-ai-chatbots-conspiracies.html?unlocked_article_code=1.Ok8.H5wn.10loM4y2NmYP&smid=url-share

You get to live in a virtual reality. I get to live in a virtual reality. Everyone gets to live in a virtual reality.

And society dies.

[MU82]

From this morning's Axios e-newsletter:

During our recent interview, Anthropic CEO Dario Amodei said something arresting that we just can't shake: Everyone assumes AI optimists and doomers are simply exaggerating. But no one asks:

"Well, what if they're right?"

Why it matters: We wanted to apply this question to what seems like the most outlandish AI claim — that in coming years, large language models could exceed human intelligence and operate beyond our control, threatening human existence, Jim VandeHei and Mike Allen write in a "Behind the Curtain" column.

That probably strikes you as science-fiction hype.

But Axios research shows at least 10 people have quit the biggest AI companies over grave concerns about the technology's power, including its potential to wipe away humanity. If it were one or two people, the cases would be easy to dismiss as nutty outliers. But several top execs at several top companies, all with similar warnings? Seems worth wondering: Well, what if they're right?

And get this: Even more people who are AI enthusiasts or optimists argue the same thing. They, too, see a technology starting to think like humans, and imagine models a few years from now starting to act like us — or beyond us. Elon Musk has put the risk as high as 20% that AI could destroy the world. Well, what if he's right?

There's a term the critics and optimists share: p(doom). It means the probability that superintelligent AI destroys humanity. So Musk would put p(doom) as high as 20%.

On a recent podcast with Lex Fridman, Google CEO Sundar Pichai, an AI architect and optimist, conceded: "I'm optimistic on the p(doom) scenarios, but ... the underlying risk is actually pretty high." But Pichai argued that the higher it gets, the more likely that humanity will rally to prevent catastrophe. Fridman, himself a scientist and AI researcher, said his p(doom) is about 10%.

Amodei is on the record pegging p(doom) in the same neighborhood as Musk's: 10-25%.

Stop and soak that in: The very makers of AI, all of whom concede they don't know with precision how it actually works, see a 1 in 10, maybe 1 in 5, chance it wipes away our species. Would you get on a plane at those odds? Would you build a plane and let others on at those odds?

Once upon a time, this doomsday scenario was the province of fantasy movies. Now, it's a common debate among those building large language models (LLMs) at giants like Google and OpenAI and Meta. To some, the better the models get, the more this fantastical fear seems eerily realistic.

I'd be afraid, but what am I supposed to do about it? If AI kills us all, it kills us all. I don't think I'm gonna build an AI bunker.

[Shaka Shart]

So you are developing something that has by your estimate, a 10% chance of destroying the earth but you keep doing it anyway because...shareholder value?

[MU82]

So you are developing something that has by your estimate, a 10% chance of destroying the earth but you keep doing it anyway because...shareholder value?

That, and concern that if China develops it first, it can destroy the earth faster and better.

[mu_hilltopper]

So you are developing something that has by your estimate, a 10% chance of destroying the earth but you keep doing it anyway because...shareholder value?

That's the crux of it, yeah.

Add to that, while AI can generate cool muppet photos, it's primary use will be to massively reduce the need for human labor in exchange for profits.

Us old guys who've invested well are gonna do ok, but our kids are massively screwed. 

Who am I kidding.  Massive unemployment will screw all of us.

We're headed for massive economic doom.  Smoke 'em if you got 'em.

[Jay Bee]

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