ESPN Way Too Early Top 25 2023-24

[Otule's Glass Eye]

1. UConn
2. Marquette
3. Duke
4. Kentucky
5. Florida Atlantic
6. Michigan State
7. Kansas
8. Arizona
9. Houston
10. Creighton

https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/page/earlytop25040422/uconn-huskies-no-1-2023-24-way-too-early-top-25-men-college-basketball-rankings

[cheebs09]

ESPN staffers have to be so confused. A 30 for 30 talked about the end of the Big East.

[5DollarPitcher]

ESPN staffers have to be so confused. A 30 for 30 talked about the end of the Big East.

To be fair, this Big East isn’t that Big East.

It’s so much better.

Imagine dealing with Syracuse, Louisville, Pitt, Rutgers, USF in their current states. Sounds like a bunch of traveling all over the country to play Q2-Q3 games. Yuck.

All that and our values align. Best hoops conference in the country and anybody that disagrees is salty because they don’t have the TV rights.

[WhiteTrash]

ESPN staffers have to be so confused. A 30 for 30 talked about the end of the Big East.

So did ESPN hitch their wagon to the wrong horse?

Actually they have beating the ACC into submission (and maybe dissolution) with the TV deal.

Will ESPN bid on the Big East next time around? I'd pay top dollar to see Val tell them to "suck it"

[wadesworld]

To be fair, this Big East isn’t that Big East.

It’s so much better.

Imagine dealing with Syracuse, Louisville, Pitt, Rutgers, USF in their current states. Sounds like a bunch of traveling all over the country to play Q2-Q3 games. Yuck.

All that and our values align. Best hoops conference in the country and anybody that disagrees is salty because they don’t have the TV rights.

The Old Big East was better, but this one is dang good and as good as we can hope for. Cuse, Pitt, and Louisville wouldn’t be what they are if they’d never left the Big East.

The Big Twelve has been the best conference in the country for a while. They lose OU and Texas soon, but they add Houston.

[Jockey]

The Old Big East was better, but this one is dang good and as good as we can hope for. Cuse, Pitt, and Louisville wouldn’t be what they are if they’d never left the Big East.

The Big Twelve has been the best conference in the country for a while. They lose OU and Texas soon, but they add Houston.

I agree with all of this.

[GoldenEagles03]

Clingan officially back for UConn

[MU82]

Clingan officially back for UConn

[Skatastrophy]

More appropriate klingon, imo. The time James Worthy was in TNG

[MU82]

Forgot about that, Ska. Well done!

[lawdog77]

Newest bracketology

https://www.espn.com/espn/feature/story/_/page/bracketology/ncaa-bracketology-2024-march-madness-men-field-predictions

[zcg2013]

Rumors swirling Filipowski is returning to Duke. Expect all of media outlets to automatically put Duke at 1. They may deserve it, but still a lot to be proven. Also curious if Roach returns or not.

[mugrad_89]

Rumors swirling Filipowski is returning to Duke. Expect all of media outlets to automatically put Duke at 1. They may deserve it, but still a lot to be proven. Also curious if Roach returns or not.

Filipowsk’s a good player, but right now he’s nothing more than a volume scorer.

[Juan Anderson's Mixtape]

Rumors swirling Filipowski is returning to Duke. Expect all of media outlets to automatically put Duke at 1. They may deserve it, but still a lot to be proven. Also curious if Roach returns or not.

Filipowski makes it official that he will return to Duke.  But the domino effect: top 10 recruit Mackenzie Mgbako asks for his release.


https://twitter.com/GlobalScouting_/status/1645793385616412675?t=f561B3DP6tIxXoWb8XAhaw&s=19

[GoldenEagles03]

Just started scouting New Orleans and Tennessee Tech.

Lunardi has us playing the winner of that play-in in Indianapolis as the 1 seed in the Midwest.

[PointWarrior]

Filipowsk’s a good player, but right now he’s nothing more than a volume scorer.

Yeah, it's crappy when a good team has a volume scorer return.  Should Marquette be concerned our volume scorer appears to be returning?

 

[SaveOD238]

Just started scouting New Orleans and Tennessee Tech.

Lunardi has us playing the winner of that play-in in Indianapolis as the 1 seed in the Midwest.

That Indianapolis -> Detroit regional path looks really enticing for MU (and most Big Ten schools)

[bilsu]

Just started scouting New Orleans and Tennessee Tech.

Lunardi has us playing the winner of that play-in in Indianapolis as the 1 seed in the Midwest.

After this year. I am not sure we want to be a top 3 seed.

[panda]

Filipowsk’s a good player, but right now he’s nothing more than a volume scorer.

High volume scorer, high volume rebounder.

Just a guy.

[PointWarrior]

Just started scouting New Orleans and Tennessee Tech.

Lunardi has us playing the winner of that play-in in Indianapolis as the 1 seed in the Midwest.

which one will scoopers be more afraid of?   is it okay to discuss our second round opponent or is it still one game at a time preferred here on scoop?

[Coleman]

When's the last time (not counting Hauser debacle) MU had this high of expectations going into a season? 1978?

[wadesworld]

Filipowski makes it official that he will return to Duke.  But the domino effect: top 10 recruit Mackenzie Mgbako asks for his release.


https://twitter.com/GlobalScouting_/status/1645793385616412675?t=f561B3DP6tIxXoWb8XAhaw&s=19

We do have an open scholarship and a need for a rebounder and 3 point shooter...

[StillAWarrior]

When's the last time (not counting Hauser debacle) MU had this high of expectations going into a season? 1978?

And we all know how that turned out.

[Juan Anderson's Mixtape]

We do have an open scholarship and a need for a rebounder and 3 point shooter...

He would be a great replacement if O-Max turns pro.

[MU82]

When's the last time (not counting Hauser debacle) MU had this high of expectations going into a season? 1978?

I can't speak for others, but I had high expectations in 2013-14, 2012-13, 2011-12, 2007-08, 2003-04, 2002-03, 1982-83 and 1978-79, and probably a few other seasons.

If the only definition of "high expectations" is top 5-10, then maybe only 2002-03, but I'm an optimist so probably a couple others.

[Coleman]

I can't speak for others, but I had high expectations in 2013-14, 2012-13, 2011-12, 2007-08, 2003-04, 2002-03, 1982-83 and 1978-79, and probably a few other seasons.

If the only definition of "high expectations" is top 5-10, then maybe only 2002-03, but I'm an optimist so probably a couple others.

 I mean if things hold and no one leaves we are a consensus top 5 team, and most of the ones I am seeing are top 3. I can't recall any MU team getting that much preseason hype in my lifetime (I am almost 40).

[MU82]

I mean if things hold and no one leaves we are a consensus top 5 team, and most of the ones I am seeing are top 3. I can't recall any MU team getting that much preseason hype in my lifetime (I am almost 40).

OK, with that as the guideline ...

Me either, and I've been a Marquette guy since the fall of 1978.

[Not A Serious Person]

I mean if things hold and no one leaves we are a consensus top 5 team, and most of the ones I am seeing are top 3. I can't recall any MU team getting that much preseason hype in my lifetime (I am almost 40).

In 2019, before the Hausers left, MU was #2 in ESPN's way too early polls

https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/26464237/loaded-michigan-state-leads-way-too-early-top-25-2019-20

[panda]

In 2019, before the Hausers left, MU was #2 in ESPN's way too early polls

https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/26464237/loaded-michigan-state-leads-way-too-early-top-25-2019-20

Why do you think they left given such high pre season expectations?

[tower912]

Early version of chat gpt failed to pick up on the irony they intended and they failed to check the letter closely enough.   What was supposed to be light hearted sarcasm emerged as an ultimatum.   Alas.

 

[lawdog77]

Updated WTE Top 25 on Espn.com


https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/36058691/2023-24-way-too-early-top-25-men-college-basketball-rankings

[muwarrior4life88]

Big East is the best basketball league in college.  https://youtu.be/O9qT0JbUCsk

[dgies9156]

I mean if things hold and no one leaves we are a consensus top 5 team, and most of the ones I am seeing are top 3. I can't recall any MU team getting that much preseason hype in my lifetime (I am almost 40).

I'm 66 and I can remember a couple:

-- 1971, The Jim Chones team, probably would have challenged UCLA for the best team in the land. People knew we were loaded. But, Mr. Chones left for the NBA.

-- 1975, Another loaded team. What we did to the Russians in early November was legendary. We probably were the second best team in the land, but Indiana was undefeated and beat us in the Regional Final. The 1972 Dolphins of college basketball. Just about as obnoxious!

-- 1978, Except for Bo Ellis, most of our team was back. We had BT and Ulice to fill the Bo Hole. Sadly, our team fell apart against F**king Miami of Ohio. No "See You in St. Louis" for us that year.
 

[Dickthedribbler]

I'm 66 and I can remember a couple:

-- 1971, The Jim Chones team, probably would have challenged UCLA for the best team in the land. People knew we were loaded. But, Mr. Chones left for the NBA.

-- 1975, Another loaded team. What we did to the Russians in early November was legendary. We probably were the second best team in the land, but Indiana was undefeated and beat us in the Regional Final. The 1972 Dolphins of college basketball. Just about as obnoxious!

-- 1978, Except for Bo Ellis, most of our team was back. We had BT and Ulice to fill the Bo Hole. Sadly, our team fell apart against F**king Miami of Ohio. No "See You in St. Louis" for us that year.

I remember the "Meet me in St. Louis" buttons everyone was wearing the last weeks of the season leading up to the NCAA Tournament. Still have one in a drawer somewhere.

[El Guerrero 2]

Big East is the best basketball league in college.  https://youtu.be/O9qT0JbUCsk

That segment really got me wishing I could hit the fast forward button to December. The Big East is going to be so fun to watch next year.

[wisblue]

That segment really got me wishing I could hit the fast forward button to December. The Big East is going to be so fun to watch next year.

When you get to be my age, you won’t be that quick to wish months away.

[WhiteTrash]

Big East is the best basketball league in college.  https://youtu.be/O9qT0JbUCsk

With all the talk about great coaches and coaching matchups in the BE, barely a mention of the NCOY, Shaka. And I'm not complaining because the discussion was legit, just speaks to the depth of the BE.

[dgies9156]

I remember the "Meet me in St. Louis" buttons everyone was wearing the last weeks of the season leading up to the NCAA Tournament. Still have one in a drawer somewhere.

The Hank Raymonds Career Memorial Button!

What a calamity.

We didn't realize how depressing that day would be for years. But when it sunk in, it was baaaaaddddd -- bad.

Fortunately, those days are O-V-E-R!!!!!

[The Lens]

With all the talk about great coaches and coaching matchups in the BE, barely a mention of the NCOY, Shaka. And I'm not complaining because the discussion was legit, just speaks to the depth of the BE.

I think there's acknowledgement that MU is back but stubbing out toe vs MSU probably waters down the #mubb is a power conversation.

[willie warrior]

I think there's acknowledgement that MU is back but stubbing out toe vs MSU probably waters down the #mubb is a power conversation.

We did not stub our toe, we showed that we are not ready for prime time after losing to a shell of an Izzo team.

[GoldenEagles03]

We did not stub our toe, we showed that we are not ready for prime time after losing to a shell of an Izzo team.

-1

[Uncle Rico]

We did not stub our toe, we showed that we are not ready for prime time after losing to a shell of an Izzo team.

We need an aircraft carrier

[The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole]

We need an aircraft carrier

And a mid range game.

[TSmith34, Inc.]

We need an aircraft carrier

Who shoots the mid-range, shoots the 3, and backs up Tk at the point.

[Uncle Rico]

Who shoots the mid-range, shoots the 3, and backs up Tk at the point.

And has his Warriors pennant in his living room, not his basement

[The Lens]

We did not stub our toe, we showed that we are not ready for prime time after losing to a shell of an Izzo team.

Team that beats eventual National Champion UConn on Friday Night in the BET at Madison Square Garden is not ready for Primetime.

That could be a t-shirt.  It makes too much sense. 

[PointWarrior]

I think there's acknowledgement that MU is back but stubbing out toe vs MSU probably waters down the #mubb is a power conversation.

More like caught a thumb in a jersey than stubbing a toe...

[Viper]

I'm 66 and I can remember a couple:

-- 1971, The Jim Chones team, probably would have challenged UCLA for the best team in the land. People knew we were loaded. But, Mr. Chones left for the NBA.

-- 1975, Another loaded team. What we did to the Russians in early November was legendary. We probably were the second best team in the land, but Indiana was undefeated and beat us in the Regional Final. The 1972 Dolphins of college basketball. Just about as obnoxious!

-- 1978, Except for Bo Ellis, most of our team was back. We had BT and Ulice to fill the Bo Hole. Sadly, our team fell apart against F**king Miami of Ohio. No "See You in St. Louis" for us that year.

Butch in that game in ‘78

[MU82]

But on the bright side, we had cool unis!

[The Lens]

Prince Harry could ball.

[Viper]

But on the bright side, we had cool unis!

they were awesome!  Too bad the NCAA wouldn’t grant a one-off to wear ‘em again. Come out wearing those vs Notre Dame? Yes!!