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NCAA Tournament

Started by muwarrior69, March 14, 2023, 06:02:44 PM

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Dr. Blackheart

#25
Quote from: Galway Eagle on March 15, 2023, 03:14:56 PM
People should root for him. He's gone elsewhere for grad school but he's got an MU degree. If we don't consider him an MU guy then half of us on this board who went elsewhere for MA/MS, MBA, or any Doctorate degree shouldn't be considered MU people either.

He actually may have a graduate degree from MU too.

MuggsyB

Is Nevada going to be the first team in the NCAA tournament to give up 70 in a half?  Why exactly did they get in?

CountryRoads

Quote from: MuggsyB on March 15, 2023, 08:48:54 PM
Is Nevada going to be the first team in the NCAA tournament to give up 70 in a half?  Why exactly did they get in?

2 duds in a row from the Mountain West in the play-in games in back to back years as Wyoming was beaten last year. MW is 2-11 since 2016 (about to be 2-12), both wins by Nevada. If they have another bad year, the committee shouldn't do them any favors next year regardless of resumes.

PGsHeroes32

This gonna be another expose the MW tourney??

Seriously let the top 2 in each year and move on.
Lazar picking up where the BIG 3 left off....

MuggsyB

Quote from: CountryRoads on March 15, 2023, 08:56:01 PM
2 duds in a row from the Mountain West in the play-in games in back to back years as Wyoming was beaten last year. MW is 2-11 since 2016 (about to be 2-12), both wins by Nevada. If they have another bad year, the committee shouldn't do them any favors next year regardless of resumes.

Are my eyes working?  51-22???   

The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole

This is why P6 teams with questionable resumes were still under consideration last week.
Matthew 25:40: Truly I tell you, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers and sisters of mine, you did for me.

MuggsyB

Will this be the running tournament thread or should I start a new one now that the actual tournament is about to start?

SoCalEagle

This one seems ready to go.

dgies9156

Quote from: MuggsyB on March 15, 2023, 08:48:54 PM
Is Nevada going to be the first team in the NCAA tournament to give up 70 in a half?  Why exactly did they get in?

Because the alternative would have been Bucky Badger and we all know how much this board loves the old Road Kill!

;D

TAMU, Knower of Ball

Quote from: PGsHeroes32 on March 15, 2023, 08:59:05 PM
This gonna be another expose the MW tourney??

Seriously let the top 2 in each year and move on.

Quote from: The Sultan of Semantics on March 16, 2023, 09:49:27 AM
This is why P6 teams with questionable resumes were still under consideration last week.

Yep. People overestimate how good you have to be to make the last 4 in. If Nevada didn't get picked here were the first four out:

Oklahoma State, barely beat Youngstown State in the first round of the NIT
Rutgers, lost to Hofstra in the first round of the NIT
North Carolina, ducked the NIT
Clemson, lost to Morehead State in the first round of the NIT

These were the best of the rest
Quote from: Goose on January 15, 2023, 08:43:46 PM
TAMU

I do know, Newsie is right on you knowing ball.


SoCalEagle

Would have been cool if North Carolina was picked for a play in game.  They would probably want to decline, but would have to play.  Reminds me of a bad USC football squad that played in a third tier bowl game against Fresno State years ago and got their clock cleaned. 

The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole

North Carolina would have played a play-in game. No doubt.
Matthew 25:40: Truly I tell you, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers and sisters of mine, you did for me.

SoCalEagle

Of course, they would.  NCAA would not let them decline.  They would have to play in a game that they would feel is beneath them. 

SoCalEagle

First tip in 15 minutes.  Let's get the party started!!!

wadesworld

Quote from: TAMU, Knower of Ball on March 16, 2023, 10:42:09 AM
Yep. People overestimate how good you have to be to make the last 4 in. If Nevada didn't get picked here were the first four out:

Oklahoma State, barely beat Youngstown State in the first round of the NIT
Rutgers, lost to Hofstra in the first round of the NIT
North Carolina, ducked the NIT
Clemson, lost to Morehead State in the first round of the NIT

These were the best of the rest

I mean, I'm not sure teams are super motivated by playing an NIT game.  I'm not sure that's a good way to evaluate how good a team is.  There have been some bad teams to make the last 4 in, and then there have been some teams that have gone on very good runs (UCLA and VCU to Final Fours) from the last 4 in.

Norm

Maryland rough start with only 4 points 9 minutes into the game. West Virginia up 13-4 but there hasn't been a basket scored by either team in over 6 minutes.

Yikes!

ChitownSpaceForRent

Hope everyone faded the Big Ten in their bracket

PGsHeroes32

Maryland getting a 8 seed is a joke

Wins away from home

Neutral: St Louis and Miami(good win) in november

Neutral: MInnesota

Away: Louisville, Minnesota

So much for committee emphasisizing road wins.

Loads of time to comeback since WVU isnt very good either. But this is why most people picked WVU. Maryland was home or bust.
Lazar picking up where the BIG 3 left off....

wadesworld

R-E-L-A-X.  We're 10 minutes into the first game of an 11:15 tip.  Sticking a fork in Maryland right now is a bit premature.  Maybe they'll get blown out.  But maybe they'll settle in.

The Equalizer

Quote from: wadesworld link=topic=64575.msg1534987#msg1534987 date=
I mean, I'm not sure teams are super motivated by playing an NIT game.  I'm not sure that's a good way to evaluate how good a team is.  There have been some bad teams to make the last 4 in, and then there have been some teams that have gone on very good runs (UCLA and VCU to Final Fours) from the last 4 in.

And I don't get the notion that a team isn't motivated by playing in an NIT game--if you have a chip on your shoulder because you think you belonged in the NCAA, you should be especially motivated to prove the committee wrong--that seemed to be the case for both Xavier and Texas A&M.  And both teams build on the NIT to make the NCAA this year.

The fact that UNC doesn't want to play in the NIT seems to fit their culture of half-assing it all year.

wadesworld

First poster of the Tournament.

PGsHeroes32

Lazar picking up where the BIG 3 left off....

wadesworld

Quote from: The Equalizer on March 16, 2023, 11:47:49 AM
And I don't get the notion that a team isn't motivated by playing in an NIT game--if you have a chip on your shoulder because you think you belonged in the NCAA, you should be especially motivated to prove the committee wrong--that seemed to be the case for both Xavier and Texas A&M.  And both teams build on the NIT to make the NCAA this year.

The fact that UNC doesn't want to play in the NIT seems to fit their culture of half-assing it all year.

Just look at the number of players who aren't playing in the NIT (including the entire UNC roster).  I mean, sure the NIT games were fun at the Al.  But I don't ever look back at that season and think that was fun to watch MU in the NIT.  Yes, when kids step on the court they aren't hoping to lose.  But I think it's pretty natural to not be as locked in when the game means nothing at the end of the day.

Badgerhater

Quote from: wadesworld on March 16, 2023, 11:46:05 AM
R-E-L-A-X.  We're 10 minutes into the first game of an 11:15 tip.  Sticking a fork in Maryland right now is a bit premature.  Maybe they'll get blown out.  But maybe they'll settle in.

Now tied at 28

PGsHeroes32

Tony Bennett not coaching today? Or UVA not listening?

They should be thrashing Furman. Cannot be stopped driving the hoop. But they keep settling for horrendous mid range jumpers.
Lazar picking up where the BIG 3 left off....