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Re: [Cracked Sidewalks] Top-16 Reveal Preview
« Reply #175 on: February 19, 2023, 01:44:26 PM »
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I was wondering when the cutoff would be. Given this, it's entirely possible that we have already swapped places with Indiana already.
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Re: [Cracked Sidewalks] Top-16 Reveal Preview
« Reply #176 on: February 19, 2023, 03:00:41 PM »
I wonder what seed ND will get this year?

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Re: [Cracked Sidewalks] Top-16 Reveal Preview
« Reply #177 on: February 19, 2023, 03:10:43 PM »
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Re: [Cracked Sidewalks] Top-16 Reveal Preview
« Reply #178 on: February 19, 2023, 03:13:45 PM »
Interesting. A few of the more questionable seedings make a little more sense now.

They really should have said up front that they used results through Tuesday nite.

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Re: [Cracked Sidewalks] Top-16 Reveal Preview
« Reply #179 on: February 19, 2023, 04:31:08 PM »
Here’s the thing with that though-

All 3 of those teams have a COMBINED 2 losses at home for the entire season, by 3 total points.

Yeah, that's the point. The Selection Committee clearly rewarded teams with marquee true road wins. Our best is Seton Hall, hence we're behind teams like KSU, ISU, and Indiana despite having a better traditional resume.

Led by 9 at Purdue, had plenty of opportunities in 50 minutes at Providence, tied at Cintas with a minute to play. Those were the outcomes that cost us.
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Re: [Cracked Sidewalks] Top-16 Reveal Preview
« Reply #180 on: February 19, 2023, 06:34:32 PM »
Joe Lunardi Just said on ESPN the only change he would make with the reveal would have been to put UCONN in.

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« Reply #181 on: February 19, 2023, 07:55:57 PM »
Yeah, that's the point. The Selection Committee clearly rewarded teams with marquee true road wins. Our best is Seton Hall, hence we're behind teams like KSU, ISU, and Indiana despite having a better traditional resume.

Led by 9 at Purdue, had plenty of opportunities in 50 minutes at Providence, tied at Cintas with a minute to play. Those were the outcomes that cost us.

I hear you Brew. I think the narrative that we deserved better in the reveal is countered by what you listed here. Of course, I would think that a W @ Creighton would certainly qualify as a "marquee true road game". It is our last chance.
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Re: [Cracked Sidewalks] Top-16 Reveal Preview
« Reply #182 on: February 19, 2023, 07:59:33 PM »
Joe Lunardi Just said on ESPN the only change he would make with the reveal would have been to put UCONN in.

i really really hope I am wrong, for obvious reasons, but UConn IMHO is the most likely team to get to the Final Four from the BE.

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« Reply #183 on: February 19, 2023, 08:12:42 PM »

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« Reply #184 on: February 19, 2023, 08:21:46 PM »
i really really hope I am wrong, for obvious reasons, but UConn IMHO is the most likely team to get to the Final Four from the BE.

I understand where you are coming from but don’t understand why they have 7 losses in the Big East.  I hope Hurley’s excuse about being too physical in the Big East and the whistle being more kind in the tournament is actually true.  I think that would bode well for MU as well.

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« Reply #185 on: February 19, 2023, 10:26:20 PM »
i really really hope I am wrong, for obvious reasons, but UConn IMHO is the most likely team to get to the Final Four from the BE.

Maybe. But UConn also very easily could lose in the first round, especially if they don't get a top-4 seed. They've already lost at home to St. John's, which is likely worse than any 11 or 12 seed they'd play.
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Re: [Cracked Sidewalks] Top-16 Reveal Preview
« Reply #186 on: February 20, 2023, 09:00:40 AM »
I understand where you are coming from but don’t understand why they have 7 losses in the Big East.  I hope Hurley’s excuse about being too physical in the Big East and the whistle being more kind in the tournament is actually true.  I think that would bode well for MU as well.

Agree, Shooter. When I heard Mike Brey refer ad nauseum to our Big East physicality after our road dismantling of ND, I though to myself, “yikes, we are one of the least physical teams in the BEast.”  Which is why I think the recent physical battles will prove invaluable going forward. I think the weight donut is coming off the bat for MU’s offense entering the NCAAs.

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« Reply #187 on: February 20, 2023, 09:11:21 AM »
This is my worry it feels like the committee has set the precedent that Marquette is one questionable loss from dropping to the 6 line

I actually don't mind the 6 spot if we lose to Creighton.   It would certainly be a snub, but for seeding matchups to go deep, I'm ok with it.  Plus there's just one more chip to add to the team's shoulder.

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« Reply #188 on: February 20, 2023, 09:33:35 AM »
I actually don't mind the 6 spot if we lose to Creighton.   It would certainly be a snub, but for seeding matchups to go deep, I'm ok with it.  Plus there's just one more chip to add to the team's shoulder.

Losing to Creighton on the road shouldn't push us out of the 4 line, let alone down to a 6. 

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« Reply #189 on: February 20, 2023, 09:47:06 AM »
I actually don't mind the 6 spot if we lose to Creighton.   It would certainly be a snub, but for seeding matchups to go deep, I'm ok with it.  Plus there's just one more chip to add to the team's shoulder.
Thats a huge drop for a road loss @ Creighton….a top of the conference team.
Maybe if we lose by 150 points.

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« Reply #190 on: February 20, 2023, 09:55:08 AM »
Thats a huge drop for a road loss @ Creighton….a top of the conference team.
Maybe if we lose by 150 points.

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Re: [Cracked Sidewalks] Top-16 Reveal Preview
« Reply #191 on: February 21, 2023, 10:43:18 PM »
Records since the selection reveal:

1 Alabama (1-1)
2 Houston (2-0)
3 Purdue (1-1)
4 Kansas (2-0)
5 Texas (2-0)
6 Arizona (2-0)
7 Baylor (0-2)
8 UCLA (2-0)
9 Tennessee (1-2)
10 Virginia (2-0)
11 Iowa State (1-2)
12 Kansas State (2-0)
13 Indiana (1-2)
14 Marquette (2-0)
15 Gonzaga (2-0)
16 Xavier (1-2)

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Re: [Cracked Sidewalks] Top-16 Reveal Preview
« Reply #192 on: February 21, 2023, 11:38:46 PM »
Records since the selection reveal:

1 Alabama (1-1)
2 Houston (2-0)
3 Purdue (1-1)
4 Kansas (2-0)
5 Texas (2-0)
6 Arizona (2-0)
7 Baylor (0-2)
8 UCLA (2-0)
9 Tennessee (1-2)
10 Virginia (2-0)
11 Iowa State (1-2)
12 Kansas State (2-0)
13 Indiana (1-2)
14 Marquette (2-0)
15 Gonzaga (2-0)
16 Xavier (1-2)

I'm not certain that Valentine's Day games were counted. The committee met Monday and Tuesday and "briefly Wednesday morning". Not sure if that means they adjusted for Tuesday night's action or not.
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Re: [Cracked Sidewalks] Top-16 Reveal Preview
« Reply #193 on: February 21, 2023, 11:44:07 PM »
I'm not certain that Valentine's Day games were counted. The committee met Monday and Tuesday and "briefly Wednesday morning". Not sure if that means they adjusted for Tuesday night's action or not.

That’s a good point. Don’t really get the lack of transparency on that front. Seth Davis maybe could have asked when they finalized the selections instead of asking his dumb question about whether or not all Big12 teams should be in.

 

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