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MuggsyB

Quote from: tower912 on February 20, 2023, 05:48:15 AM
The sag is taking away passing angles and cutters.  And then, when Oso does attempt a post move, larger people are sitting on his left shoulder.    He does not yet have a counter.

I assume Oso and Shaka will be working on a counter. 

tower912

Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

Scoop Snoop

Wild horses couldn't drag me into either political party, but for very different reasons.

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MuggsyB

Quote from: Scoop Snoop on February 20, 2023, 06:58:13 AM
At McDonald's?

There's a counter move for everything in hoops Scoop Snoop. I'm not talking about fast food. 

Uncle Rico

Quote from: MuggsyB on February 20, 2023, 07:46:46 AM
There's a counter move for everything in hoops Scoop Snoop. I'm not talking about fast food.

How about the counter trey?
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Newsdreams

Scoop is very contrarian this morning, nothing new.
Goal is National Championship
CBP profile my people who landed here over 100 yrs before Mayflower. Most I've had to deal with are ignorant & low IQ.
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avid1010

Quote from: tower912 on February 20, 2023, 05:48:15 AM
The sag is taking away passing angles and cutters.  And then, when Oso does attempt a post move, larger people are sitting on his left shoulder.    He does not yet have a counter.
So teams are daring MU to beat them with the 3 ball or in pick and roll situations?

The Sultan

Quote from: avid1010 on February 20, 2023, 08:59:27 AM
So teams are daring MU to beat them with the 3 ball or in pick and roll situations?


That's exactly what I would do.

Marquette's 2 point % is the best in the Big East at .583.  Their 3 point percentage is fourth at .360, which is effectively .540.  Make them beat you from deep because the 2 point offense is ridiculously efficient.
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Quote from: tower912 on February 20, 2023, 05:48:15 AM
The sag is taking away passing angles and cutters.  And then, when Oso does attempt a post move, larger people are sitting on his left shoulder.    He does not yet have a counter.

I've seen some counters to the sag already.

Against Georgetown, there was a possession where the sag took away the baseline back cut from the corner.  Oso dribbled to the FT line and handed the ball to Jop for a wide open top of the key 3.

Against Xavier, Marquette ran ball screens late.  About 4 minutes left, Kam received a staggered double ball screen from Jop and Oso. Nunge was playing a one man zone in the lane.  That gave MU a 3 on 2 situation on the perimeter, and Kam got into the lane with ease.  Nunge had to step up to stop the ball and Oso slipped to the basket for an open layup from a Kam pass.

Second example is the lob that lead to Oso's FTs with under 30 seconds left.  This time a 2 on 1 ball screen.  Same affect, with Nunge rotating to Kam and Oso wide open for a lob.  The only thing Kam's defender could do was commit a foul by undercutting Oso.

So the adjustments are already being made.  It's not quite as free flowing, but there are ways to exploit the sag.

MuggsyB

Quote from: Juan Anderson's Mixtape on February 20, 2023, 09:15:39 AM
I've seen some counters to the sag already.

Against Georgetown, there was a possession where the sag took away the baseline back cut from the corner.  Oso dribbled to the FT line and handed the ball to Jop for a wide open top of the key 3.

Against Xavier, Marquette ran ball screens late.  About 4 minutes left, Kam received a staggered double ball screen from Jop and Oso. Nunge was playing a one man zone in the lane.  That gave MU a 3 on 2 situation on the perimeter, and Kam got into the lane with ease.  Nunge had to step up to stop the ball and Oso slipped to the basket for an open layup from a Kam pass.

Second example is the lob that lead to Oso's FTs with under 30 seconds left.  This time a 2 on 1 ball screen.  Same affect, with Nunge rotating to Kam and Oso wide open for a lob.  The only thing Kam's defender could do was commit a foul by undercutting Oso.

So the adjustments are already being made.  It's not quite as free flowing, but there are ways to exploit the sag.

Kam can get the floater or the kiss off the glass from 6 feet on a lot of our possessions.  It's the quick decision with the downhill dribble that would lead to innumerable buckets. 

Scoop Snoop

Quote from: MuggsyB on February 20, 2023, 07:46:46 AM
There's a counter move for everything in hoops Scoop Snoop. I'm not talking about fast food.

;D ;D ;D
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tower912

JAM, thank you for pointing out the already made adjustments.  You are right.   Well spotted.   Against Creighton, I expect Kalkbrenner to sag and the rest to switch everything, close hard on Kam and Kolek, and funnel OMax and Stevie into Kalkbrenner.
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

Scoop Snoop

Quote from: Juan Anderson's Mixtape on February 20, 2023, 09:15:39 AM
I've seen some counters to the sag already.

Against Georgetown, there was a possession where the sag took away the baseline back cut from the corner.  Oso dribbled to the FT line and handed the ball to Jop for a wide open top of the key 3.

Against Xavier, Marquette ran ball screens late.  About 4 minutes left, Kam received a staggered double ball screen from Jop and Oso. Nunge was playing a one man zone in the lane.  That gave MU a 3 on 2 situation on the perimeter, and Kam got into the lane with ease.  Nunge had to step up to stop the ball and Oso slipped to the basket for an open layup from a Kam pass.

Second example is the lob that lead to Oso's FTs with under 30 seconds left.  This time a 2 on 1 ball screen.  Same affect, with Nunge rotating to Kam and Oso wide open for a lob.  The only thing Kam's defender could do was commit a foul by undercutting Oso.

So the adjustments are already being made.  It's not quite as free flowing, but there are ways to exploit the sag.

Thanks for posting this. Other than the UCONN game result, in a strange way our competitors may have inadvertently done us a favor by identifying the chinks in our armor. It should help us make the changes we need to in order to advance in the Big Dance.

It seems many scoopers are almost writing off the Creighton game as a L. Not me.
Wild horses couldn't drag me into either political party, but for very different reasons.

"All of our answers are unencumbered by the thought process." NPR's Click and Clack of Car Talk.

tower912

The Kam/Oso pick and roll that got the free throws at the end of Xavier also generated an Oso dunk over Clingan.
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

Coleman

Quote from: Scoop Snoop on February 20, 2023, 09:53:58 AM
It seems many scoopers are almost writing off the Creighton game as a L. Not me.

Not writing it off. Just managing my expectations.

Scoop Snoop

Wild horses couldn't drag me into either political party, but for very different reasons.

"All of our answers are unencumbered by the thought process." NPR's Click and Clack of Car Talk.

MU82

Quote from: Newsdreams on February 20, 2023, 08:47:19 AM
Scoop is very contrarian this morning, nothing new.

Eff you. You're contrarian!
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Newsdreams

Goal is National Championship
CBP profile my people who landed here over 100 yrs before Mayflower. Most I've had to deal with are ignorant & low IQ.
Can't believe we're living in the land of F 452/1984/Animal Farm/Brave New World/Handmaid's Tale. When travel to Mars begins, expect Starship Troopers

1SE

Quote from: Coleman on February 20, 2023, 10:08:10 AM
Not writing it off. Just managing my expectations.

Long COLE even worse than long COVID
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What does COLE mean?  I see it a lot recently and i am the only one who does not have a clue.   

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