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[Paint Touches] Notes on a season-defining win over X
« on: February 16, 2023, 02:21:58 PM »
Before last night, teams that posted an eFG% under 42% while allowing opponents to put up an eFG% of 57%+ were 0-120 in Big East games since 2008.

Make that 1-121.

https://painttouches.com/2023/02/16/notes-on-a-season-defining-win-over-xavier-marquette/

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Re: [Paint Touches] Notes on a season-defining win over X
« Reply #1 on: February 16, 2023, 02:35:18 PM »
Before last night, teams that posted an eFG% under 42% while allowing opponents to put up an eFG% of 57%+ were 0-120 in Big East games since 2008.

Make that 1-121.

https://painttouches.com/2023/02/16/notes-on-a-season-defining-win-over-xavier-marquette/

So, eFG% no matta?  Incredible

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Re: [Paint Touches] Notes on a season-defining win over X
« Reply #2 on: February 16, 2023, 02:39:53 PM »
A +21 opportunity index helps.

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Re: [Paint Touches] Notes on a season-defining win over X
« Reply #3 on: February 16, 2023, 04:50:51 PM »
Is it concerning to anyone else that 3/4 (and 4/6) of our worst AdjO and ef% games have come since 2/1?

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Re: [Paint Touches] Notes on a season-defining win over X
« Reply #4 on: February 16, 2023, 04:54:22 PM »
Nope. Just win baby!!

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Re: [Paint Touches] Notes on a season-defining win over X
« Reply #5 on: February 16, 2023, 04:54:30 PM »
Is it concerning to anyone else that 3/4 (and 4/6) of our worst AdjO and ef% games have come since 2/1?

Yes, though last night I thought they missed a lot of good looks (the looks were better last night than in some of the other recent games)
« Last Edit: February 16, 2023, 05:02:04 PM by Uncle Rico »
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Re: [Paint Touches] Notes on a season-defining win over X
« Reply #6 on: February 16, 2023, 04:57:03 PM »
Is it concerning to anyone else that 3/4 (and 4/6) of our worst AdjO and ef% games have come since 2/1?
Clearly the February fade.   The W/L record reflects that.
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Re: [Paint Touches] Notes on a season-defining win over X
« Reply #7 on: February 16, 2023, 05:02:45 PM »
Is it concerning to anyone else that 3/4 (and 4/6) of our worst AdjO and ef% games have come since 2/1?
We’re finding ways to pull out games so far, but it could be our downfall at some point for sure if we can’t course correct. 

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Re: [Paint Touches] Notes on a season-defining win over X
« Reply #8 on: February 16, 2023, 05:05:24 PM »
jesmu

I think the guys might be pressing or feeling the heat a bit. They have not played their best ball of late and need to clean things up. Not concerned, but would like to see them string together some better performances over next few games.
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Re: [Paint Touches] Notes on a season-defining win over X
« Reply #9 on: February 16, 2023, 05:11:43 PM »
Yeah we only scored 45 points in the second half! Horrible!

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Re: [Paint Touches] Notes on a season-defining win over X
« Reply #10 on: February 16, 2023, 05:18:30 PM »
Tower - obviously we're still winning most. But the trend is concerning to me.

Rico - Yes. Lots of uncanny open shots missed last night.

ATL - exactly. Can we count on the TOs and ORs in the future?

Goose - Agreed. Even if we just do a better job of making the open shots.

PBI - Did you read the article? Review the numbers presented?

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Re: [Paint Touches] Notes on a season-defining win over X
« Reply #11 on: February 16, 2023, 07:23:53 PM »
Tower - obviously we're still winning most. But the trend is concerning to me.

Rico - Yes. Lots of uncanny open shots missed last night.

ATL - exactly. Can we count on the TOs and ORs in the future?

Goose - Agreed. Even if we just do a better job of making the open shots.

PBI - Did you read the article? Review the numbers presented?
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Re: [Paint Touches] Notes on a season-defining win over X
« Reply #12 on: February 16, 2023, 08:17:07 PM »
jesmu

I think the guys might be pressing or feeling the heat a bit. They have not played their best ball of late and need to clean things up. Not concerned, but would like to see them string together some better performances over next few games.
I heard Shaka say this...and he also mentioned he felt they settled in as the game progressed.

I liked that they came out slinging from deep against G-Town...they did so against X as well...Jop and Kam missed a lot of good looks from 3.  They have normal games...were in good shape...and I think they get back on track.

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Re: [Paint Touches] Notes on a season-defining win over X
« Reply #13 on: February 16, 2023, 08:47:58 PM »
Tower - obviously we're still winning most. But the trend is concerning to me.

Rico - Yes. Lots of uncanny open shots missed last night.

ATL - exactly. Can we count on the TOs and ORs in the future?

Goose - Agreed. Even if we just do a better job of making the open shots.

PBI - Did you read the article? Review the numbers presented?

Scoreboard. ;D

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Re: [Paint Touches] Notes on a season-defining win over X
« Reply #14 on: February 16, 2023, 09:28:29 PM »
jesmu

I think the guys might be pressing or feeling the heat a bit. They have not played their best ball of late and need to clean things up. Not concerned, but would like to see them string together some better performances over next few games.
No, they're taking away MU's inside game and making us a 3 pt shooting team. Until we start hitting 3's like before it will work. But MU is due to go back to mean so rejoice!
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Re: [Paint Touches] Notes on a season-defining win over X
« Reply #15 on: February 17, 2023, 05:22:22 AM »
No, they're taking away MU's inside game and making us a 3 pt shooting team. Until we start hitting 3's like before it will work. But MU is due to go back to mean so rejoice!

Well worded. Our inside game and 3-point game really need to be understood as interrelated, not "either-or". Jam us up inside, we'll shoot open threes. Camp out on the three-point line, and we'll have fun in the paint. Very simple concepts admittedly, yet I think we sometimes ignore them here.
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Re: [Paint Touches] Notes on a season-defining win over X
« Reply #16 on: February 17, 2023, 06:18:32 AM »
It’s not the end of the journey, but when we look back on it in a few months and again in a few years, it will be this night that helped define the season program.

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Re: [Paint Touches] Notes on a season-defining win over X
« Reply #17 on: February 17, 2023, 06:30:29 AM »
So what is our KenPom "Luck rating" after this game?

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Re: [Paint Touches] Notes on a season-defining win over X
« Reply #18 on: February 17, 2023, 06:53:08 AM »
At Cintas: Lose by 4

      FG%    3PT%   FT%
MU  48       25        73
X     45       28        77

AT FF: Win by 1   

      FG%     3PT%   FT%
MU  38         23       71
X     53         37       78



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Re: [Paint Touches] Notes on a season-defining win over X
« Reply #19 on: February 17, 2023, 06:56:48 AM »
At Cintas: Lose by 4

      FG%    3PT%   FT%
MU  48       25        73
X     45       28        77

AT FF: Win by 1   

      FG%     3PT%   FT%
MU  38         23       71
X     53         37       78
Need to include TO's and rebounds that was the key @FF, FT% no matta
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Re: [Paint Touches] Notes on a season-defining win over X
« Reply #20 on: February 17, 2023, 07:02:07 AM »
The difference this year vs. the last several is MU is finding ways to win in Feb. without their A-game on Offense. This speaks to character and experience. Gotta give coaching credit as well. "Win anyway." The corny gimmicks i.e. dominoes are helping with these guys. Fun to watch.

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« Reply #21 on: February 17, 2023, 07:06:57 AM »
jesmu84, in my opinion, the offense falling off is a byproduct of the Big East having a double round robin schedule and some really good coaches.    There is a scouting report on every player, on every set.   They know what MU wants to do and are scheming to take it away.  So, MU's offensive efficiency has dropped and recent games have been slogs.
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Re: [Paint Touches] Notes on a season-defining win over X
« Reply #22 on: February 17, 2023, 07:36:11 AM »
Every program that is early on becoming a serious contending programs have games and players that define and build that foundation. The X win will be remembered as a big program win down the road and Tyler Kolek as the guy who got started. I cannot stress enough how much Kolek has been the backbone of the program.

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Re: [Paint Touches] Notes on a season-defining win over X
« Reply #23 on: February 17, 2023, 07:50:15 AM »
jesmu84, in my opinion, the offense falling off is a byproduct of the Big East having a double round robin schedule and some really good coaches.    There is a scouting report on every player, on every set.   They know what MU wants to do and are scheming to take it away.  So, MU's offensive efficiency has dropped and recent games have been slogs.

I'd have to look at the stats, but I'd be interested to know if that's the case with our opponents as well.

If it was not, would it concern you?

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« Reply #24 on: February 17, 2023, 08:00:34 AM »
21-6.  Not much concerns me about this team.   Conference play is supposed to be a meat grinder.   While you are correct that the offense hasn't been as efficient lately, MU has found ways to win.  That is good.

it is entirely possible and even likely that Creighton holds serve on Tuesday.  That will not cause me worry, either.   Beating a ranked team in their gym is a big ask.   Don't get hurt, take in the process.

Finally, this.  Three first year players, three second year players, three third year players.    This is a very young team.  As good as they have been, there are still lessons to be learned and growth to strive for.    There will be flat spots.  Not many so far, to be sure.   Enjoy the ride.
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