Next 5 Games 2/15-3/4 (Final Edition)

[Coleman]

I'm slightly pessimistic because we keep getting burned by February fades. 3-2

I think we go 1-1 against Xavier and Creighton and then lose one game we probably shouldn't over the last 3. 15-5 in Conference and 23-8 heading into the BET.

But why stop the predictions there?

Then we go 1-1 in New York, 24-9 heading into the Big Dance. Good for a 5 seed. At which point I think we win the 5-12 game and the 5-4 game. And lose in the Sweet 16.

I'm not done yet.

But the core returns for 2023-2024 and we win the Big East outright, going 16-4. We get a 3 seed. And we make it to the Elite 8, where we lose a tight game just short of a Final Four.

[Scoop Snoop]

 
I think providence and x both lose 1 more after our game with X. I think Creighton doesn't lose again after MU game so if MU goes 4-1 we end up tied for the title with whoever beat us.

They are at Nova on 2/25. Difficult to argue that Nova is up to the task, so your point is well taken.

Despite their record, let's not sleep on Butler. "Hinkle Magic" has embarrassed us before.

[MU82]

The two games that will determine the Big East Champion are MU-Xavier and MU-Creighton. The Providence-Creighton game just gave us some margin of error.  If we win both games we win the Big East regardless of how the Providence - Creighton game ended so it couldn't determine the Big East champion. if we win both it is likely we could lose one against the bottom three and still win outright. If we lose both, Creighton would win the BE regardless of Providence game outcome.

In order for MU to win the title outright they need to win both games and hold serve. Go 1-1 and we would be either tied with Creighton and Providence or 1 behind X and needing some help. 

I think providence and x both lose 1 more after our game with X. I think Creighton doesn't lose again after MU game so if MU goes 4-1 we end up tied for the title with whoever beat us.

I am going to stick with what I said: If both of those go our favor, we will get at least a share of the championship.

The first one -- The Provi beating Creighton -- did go our way. When the second one goes our way -- our thrashing of X tonight -- the only way we won't win at least a share of the championship is if we lose to one of the 3 dregs we play after Creighton. And we won't lose to them.

And I'm conceding nothing in Omaha either. Creighton's last 2 home games they barely beat Nova and UConn. They're good; they aren't some unbeatable juggernaut. Marquette's good, too. So yes, to win outright, that's a huge game for us. But that's not what I said in the point you're arguing about.

I of course would rather be the outright champs, but co-champs is a pretty damn good season for a team predicted to finish 9th and a team that most Scoopers gave little chance to be in such rarefied air, don't you think?

Despite their record, let's not sleep on Butler. "Hinkle Magic" has embarrassed us before.

Wojo won 2 of his last 3 at Hinkle with Marquette teams not as good as this one playing against Butler teams better than this one. And after Butler played us tough at Fiserv, I trust that Shaka will have the team's attention.

I'm slightly pessimistic because we keep getting burned by February fades.

We're 3-1 in February 2023 so far, and that's the only February that matters. And even those games are in the past. Onward and upward with this vastly different and superior Marquette team!

[Scoop Snoop]

I am going to stick with what I said: If both of those go our favor, we will get at least a share of the championship.

The first one -- The Provi beating Creighton -- did go our way. When the second one goes our way -- our thrashing of X tonight -- the only way we won't win at least a share of the championship is if we lose to one of the 3 dregs we play after Creighton. And we won't lose to them.

And I'm conceding nothing in Omaha either. Creighton's last 2 home games they barely beat Nova and UConn. They're good; they aren't some unbeatable juggernaut. Marquette's good, too. So yes, to win outright, that's a huge game for us. But that's not what I said in the point you're arguing about.

I of course would rather be the outright champs, but co-champs is a pretty damn good season for a team predicted to finish 9th and a team that most Scoopers gave little chance to be in such rarefied air, don't you think?

Wojo won 2 of his last 3 at Hinkle with Marquette teams not as good as this one playing against Butler teams better than this one. And after Butler played us tough at Fiserv, I trust that Shaka will have the team's attention.

We're 3-1 in February 2023 so far, and that's the only February that matters. And even those games are in the past. Onward and upward with this vastly different and superior Marquette team!

Agree that we very probably win, but Xavier thought they would too. Take a deep breath, MU 82.

[SaveOD238]

I am going to stick with what I said: If both of those go our favor, we will get at least a share of the championship.

The first one -- The Provi beating Creighton -- did go our way. When the second one goes our way -- our thrashing of X tonight -- the only way we won't win at least a share of the championship is if we lose to one of the 3 dregs we play after Creighton. And we won't lose to them.

And I'm conceding nothing in Omaha either. Creighton's last 2 home games they barely beat Nova and UConn. They're good; they aren't some unbeatable juggernaut. Marquette's good, too. So yes, to win outright, that's a huge game for us. But that's not what I said in the point you're arguing about.

I of course would rather be the outright champs, but co-champs is a pretty damn good season for a team predicted to finish 9th and a team that most Scoopers gave little chance to be in such rarefied air, don't you think?

Exactly this.  If we win tonight then all of our competitors will have at least 4 losses, while we will be sitting at 3 (and a two game lead in the win-column).  So even if we lose Tuesday in Omaha, the worst we would be is tied for first place with four losses.  With three winnable games remaining after that, we'd still be in the driver seat.

I actually think a 4-loss team could still be outright champs of this league, whether that is us, X, or Creighton, given the remaining schedules for each of those squads.  More likely though is that the 4-loss teams split the title and go to tie-breakers for BET seeding.

[MU82]

 
 
Agree that we very probably win, but Xavier thought they would too. Take a deep breath, MU 82.

I'm breathing perfectly fine, thanks.

We'll not only win but also cover tonight.

[Newsdreams]

I'm breathing perfectly fine, thanks.

We'll not only win but also cover tonight.

So Shaka won't be able to win a close one? Sad!

[1SE]

Some of you 4-1 COLE miners want to update after last night? BELIEVE.

[Newsdreams]

Some of you 4-1 COLE miners want to update after last night? BELIEVE.

1-5

[The Thing]

Planning on going to the St John's game with my family and hoping that will be the game that officially gives MU the outright Big East Championship. Does anybody have any insider knowledge about the timing? It is still showing as TBD.

[MUfan12]

Bucks play that night, so I'd think the latest it would start would be 1.

[MUFC9295]

Stand tall all 14 of you.

[Milkshakes]

Stand tall all 14 of you.

Right on!  This bump caused me
To just go look at the whole season's win loss game by game. The close wins at the end of the year are easy trades for the couple of early games it would be nice to have back. 

Who knows where it goes from here. I'm choosing to "stay lost in the fight". 

Enjoy the ride people.

[HowardsWorld]

Proud of this team.

[StillAWarrior]

Looking back over these, I see that I predicted a combined 18-2, which is funny because I never would have predicted an 18-2 Big East overall record at the outset. But as I saw how MU was playing and looked at each group of five games, it's what I came up with. I picked 5-0, 4-1, 5-0, and 4-1, so I only got one segment correct.

Did anyone* hit all four polls or the 17-3 correct?

*By "anyone", I mean people who voted before the games were played, not after.

[HowardsWorld]

Looking back over these, I see that I predicted a combined 18-2, which is funny because I never would have predicted an 18-2 Big East overall record at the outset. But as I saw how MU was playing and looked at each group of five games, it's what I came up with. I picked 5-0, 4-1, 5-0, and 4-1, so I only got one segment correct.

Did anyone* hit all four polls or the 17-3 correct?

*By "anyone", I mean people who voted before the games were played, not after.

I hit 16-4, with the only difference being the game @Creighton. I voted for a close loss but glad I was wrong.

[Goose]

I think I was 16-4 or 15-5. Very happy to be wrong.

[Coleman]

Happy I was wrong