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Zach Wrightsil - where is he?
« on: November 30, 2022, 11:17:57 AM »
What has happened to Zach Wrightsil?  I thought when we needed size he was an option.

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Re: Zach Wrightsil - where is he?
« Reply #1 on: November 30, 2022, 11:18:49 AM »
What has happened to Zach Wrightsil?  I thought when we needed size he was an option.

He transfered
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Re: Zach Wrightsil - where is he?
« Reply #2 on: November 30, 2022, 11:18:58 AM »
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Re: Zach Wrightsil - where is he?
« Reply #3 on: November 30, 2022, 11:19:15 AM »
Lingering knee issues after he had surgery on it in June.
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Re: Zach Wrightsil - where is he?
« Reply #4 on: November 30, 2022, 11:19:24 AM »
What has happened to Zach Wrightsil?  I thought when we needed size he was an option.

See: injury reports.
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Re: Zach Wrightsil - where is he?
« Reply #5 on: November 30, 2022, 11:27:03 AM »
Medical redshirt requirements:

The injury must have occurred in the first half of the season, and the athlete must have competed in less than 30 percent of the season.



Looks like he meets those requirements. I don’t think he plays another minute for MU. I think he transfers at the end of the season and plays another season somewhere else.
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Re: Zach Wrightsil - where is he?
« Reply #6 on: November 30, 2022, 11:31:14 AM »
Medical redshirt requirements:

The injury must have occurred in the first half of the season, and the athlete must have competed in less than 30 percent of the season.



Looks like he meets those requirements. I don’t think he plays another minute for MU. I think he transfers at the end of the season and plays another season somewhere else.

I was wondering last night if he could redshirt being a 5th year senior. I think you may be right.
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Re: Zach Wrightsil - where is he?
« Reply #7 on: November 30, 2022, 11:40:34 AM »
I don't think we will see Wrightsil until after winter break. I think they want to give him time to get healthy and then will need time to work him back into the rotation.

I don't think he will take a medical redshirt unless the knee issue really lingers.
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Re: Zach Wrightsil - where is he?
« Reply #8 on: November 30, 2022, 01:12:06 PM »
With our scholarship situation even if he takes a medical redshirt it likely won’t be at Marquette.

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Re: Zach Wrightsil - where is he?
« Reply #9 on: November 30, 2022, 01:17:20 PM »
With our scholarship situation even if he takes a medical redshirt it likely won’t be at Marquette.

I think he still has value to give to this team.  Oso is going to need rest and Wrightsil has a lot of similar skills.

He may only get 8-10 minutes but they will be important.  Gotta start by getting healthy.
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Re: Zach Wrightsil - where is he?
« Reply #10 on: November 30, 2022, 09:34:21 PM »
Shaka has said one thing repeatedly about  Zach- that we should expect him to be much better in December than he is in Nov, much better in Jan than in December and so on and so forth.

I think it’s wise to believe what Shaka is preaching at this point.

So, I’d suggest that before seasons end ZW still plays a major role on this squad.
Giving him some extra time to recover early in the season is the right move, and it has the added benefit of getting Ben and hopefully even Keeyan- when inevitably Oso ends up in some foul trouble- some extra run for times of need.

As long as his knee injury doesn’t become a season ender I tend to believe Shaka that Zach Wrightsil be a much better player later in the season, and have an important role on this years squad.
Maybe not as prominent as we had expected, but still important.


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Re: Zach Wrightsil - where is he?
« Reply #11 on: November 30, 2022, 10:39:05 PM »
There’s no such thing as ‘taking a medical redshirt’. There is a medical hardship waiver, which does not involve a decision of, ‘should I play or just sit out the rest of the year’. It’s based on incapacity to compete.
 
So, unless there’s a doctor that wants to say, ‘he cannot play’ and that continues to be the case through March, the rest of the conversation or thoughts isn’t relevant. If his knee isn’t letting him play until early February… he can’t just say, ‘well, I could play now, but I’d rather just sit out and be eligible for a medical hardship waiver’.. that’s not the rule.
 
Now, if he goes back for surgery next week, I’d change my tune.. but, knee soreness in November doesn’t make me think he’s going to be physically unable to compete for the next three and a half months. If he’s able to go, then he doesn’t fit the criteria of the medical hardship waiver.
 
If somehow we got past that, then we get into the matters of this being a bonus COVID year.. and interplay between NAIA vs. DI and the Five-Year Rule… would get a little messy.
 
As of now, I think this is his last year of playing college basketball unless he gets another procedure(s) done and is incapable of playing through March.. but even then, it's not a #donedeal
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Re: Zach Wrightsil - where is he?
« Reply #12 on: November 30, 2022, 11:13:24 PM »
There’s no such thing as ‘taking a medical redshirt’. There is a medical hardship waiver, which does not involve a decision of, ‘should I play or just sit out the rest of the year’. It’s based on incapacity to compete.
 
So, unless there’s a doctor that wants to say, ‘he cannot play’ and that continues to be the case through March, the rest of the conversation or thoughts isn’t relevant. If his knee isn’t letting him play until early February… he can’t just say, ‘well, I could play now, but I’d rather just sit out and be eligible for a medical hardship waiver’.. that’s not the rule.
 
Now, if he goes back for surgery next week, I’d change my tune.. but, knee soreness in November doesn’t make me think he’s going to be physically unable to compete for the next three and a half months. If he’s able to go, then he doesn’t fit the criteria of the medical hardship waiver.
 
If somehow we got past that, then we get into the matters of this being a bonus COVID year.. and interplay between NAIA vs. DI and the Five-Year Rule… would get a little messy.
 
As of now, I think this is his last year of playing college basketball unless he gets another procedure(s) done and is incapable of playing through March.. but even then, it's not a #donedeal
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Re: Zach Wrightsil - where is he?
« Reply #13 on: December 01, 2022, 09:20:53 AM »
Do we know if he’s able to practice at all, or is it pretty much lay low until a set date to determine how things with the knee have progressed?

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Re: Zach Wrightsil - where is he?
« Reply #14 on: December 01, 2022, 09:30:06 AM »
Do we know if he’s able to practice at all, or is it pretty much lay low until a set date to determine how things with the knee have progressed?

I am not a doctor but I play one on Scoop. Pregame in Ft. Myers they were putting him through light 1:1 drills and I'd say he was about 60%. He is visibly walking with a limp due to inflammation. He is not scrimmaging nor is he even participating in pre-game team warm ups. Rest and treatment for now as TAMU and JayBee said with the hope he can get into playing shape over break.

Maybe Jimmy John's front of the house workers can provide a more thorough Scoop medical assessment?

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Re: Zach Wrightsil - where is he?
« Reply #15 on: December 01, 2022, 09:42:26 AM »
It's December 1st.  There's lots of golf left.  I see no reason to rush him back until after Christmas.  He will be needed most in conf when teams have tape on Oso and work to get him in foul trouble. 
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Re: Zach Wrightsil - where is he?
« Reply #16 on: December 01, 2022, 09:50:50 AM »
It's unfortunate to say the least, but i don't see him contributing any meaningful minutes at Marquette. even once fully healthy, he'll need to get back into game ready shape (which could take weeks if all accounts of him not practicing are true). Then even after becoming ready to play he'll need to sync with his teammates. This would be easier if he had played with these guys before, but he hasn't. I think Shaka will choose to play others and focus on long term development. Remember, even when fully healthy Zach was going to be a role player at best.

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Re: Zach Wrightsil - where is he?
« Reply #17 on: December 01, 2022, 09:55:56 AM »
Remember, even when fully healthy Zach was going to be a role player at best.

Was he?  A "role player at best?"
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« Reply #18 on: December 01, 2022, 10:49:19 AM »
When Oso needs to sit...Jop, O-Max, and/or Gold offer "similar" rebounding and defense with the ability to play 5-out. 

I don't see ZW benefiting us if he can't hit from outside. 

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« Reply #19 on: December 01, 2022, 01:00:48 PM »
Was he?  A "role player at best?"

I didn't view him as a player that would crack the starting 5 rotation. I also felt Joplin would could off the bench before him so he would slot in at #7. "role player at best" is my language. Maybe other disagree.

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« Reply #20 on: December 01, 2022, 01:11:40 PM »
I didn't view him as a player that would crack the starting 5 rotation. I also felt Joplin would could off the bench before him so he would slot in at #7. "role player at best" is my language. Maybe other disagree.

But now, even if healthy he would be #10.

S Jones, Ross, and Gold all ahead of him as well.

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Re: Zach Wrightsil - where is he?
« Reply #21 on: December 01, 2022, 01:12:19 PM »
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« Reply #22 on: December 01, 2022, 01:14:50 PM »
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Re: Zach Wrightsil - where is he?
« Reply #23 on: December 01, 2022, 01:15:13 PM »
Wrightsil was closer to a starter than people will likely ever realize. His injury was a real set back. I feel bad for him. Hopefully he can contribute in some capacity late in the season. Its gonna be tough because Gold will continue to improve and he will have plenty of rust.

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« Reply #25 on: December 01, 2022, 01:42:31 PM »
Wrightsil was closer to a starter than people will likely ever realize. His injury was a real set back. I feel bad for him. Hopefully he can contribute in some capacity late in the season. Its gonna be tough because Gold will continue to improve and he will have plenty of rust.

I've always heard the same. I don't know that he was going to start but I think he was viewed as a guy who was going to get at least 18 minutes a game. Knee injuries can be killer.
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Re: Zach Wrightsil - where is he?
« Reply #26 on: December 01, 2022, 01:44:02 PM »
But now, even if healthy he would be #10.

S Jones, Ross, and Gold all ahead of him as well.

This^ Exactly why i said i don't think he'll play any significant minutes at Marquette.

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« Reply #27 on: December 01, 2022, 03:07:57 PM »
I am not a doctor but I play one on Scoop. Pregame in Ft. Myers they were putting him through light 1:1 drills and I'd say he was about 60%. He is visibly walking with a limp due to inflammation. He is not scrimmaging nor is he even participating in pre-game team warm ups. Rest and treatment for now as TAMU and JayBee said with the hope he can get into playing shape over break.

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Re: Zach Wrightsil - where is he?
« Reply #28 on: December 01, 2022, 03:22:50 PM »
But now, even if healthy he would be #10.

S Jones, Ross, and Gold all ahead of him as well.

I underestimated how big of a factor Ross would be this year. I expected Wrightsil to give us a similar level of production that Ross is giving us now and vice versa.

If Wrightsil gets healthy and earns some minutes that can only be good for our team. I’m not really sure whose minutes he would get though currently.

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« Reply #29 on: December 01, 2022, 09:05:29 PM »
I’d love a Trent Lockett type of role later on in the season.

Productive glue guy that does a bit of everything and has a lot of value with his hustle and defensive energy.

That’s how I remember Trent at least

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« Reply #30 on: December 01, 2022, 11:17:48 PM »
I underestimated how big of a factor Ross would be this year. I expected Wrightsil to give us a similar level of production that Ross is giving us now and vice versa.

If Wrightsil gets healthy and earns some minutes that can only be good for our team. I’m not really sure whose minutes he would get though currently.
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« Reply #31 on: December 02, 2022, 12:14:01 AM »
I was wondering last night if he could redshirt being a 5th year senior. I think you may be right.

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« Reply #32 on: December 02, 2022, 08:39:09 AM »
I underestimated how big of a factor Ross would be this year. I expected Wrightsil to give us a similar level of production that Ross is giving us now and vice versa.

If Wrightsil gets healthy and earns some minutes that can only be good for our team. I’m not really sure whose minutes he would get though currently.
The injury to Wrightsil gives Ross more opportunity, which in the long run might be better for us.

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« Reply #33 on: December 02, 2022, 03:55:55 PM »
Yup. Name our player who did that.

Ummm...the tall Irish-sounding-named kid with one eye?
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« Reply #34 on: December 02, 2022, 04:57:38 PM »
The injury to Wrightsil gives Ross more opportunity, which in the long run might be better for us.
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Disagree there, Ross is a guard, Wrightsil is totally an inside player. MU already playing 9 guys, not sure there is any room for him.

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« Reply #35 on: December 03, 2022, 08:33:59 PM »
I was wondering last night if he could redshirt being a 5th year senior. I think you may be right.

He could. While he played four years at Loyola New Orleans he got 20-21 back. However, since he played against LIU he has to be medically disqualified for the remainder of the season by a doctor.
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« Reply #36 on: December 04, 2022, 04:51:24 PM »
Did Shaka offer Wrightsil before or after it was known he'd need knee surgery?

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« Reply #37 on: December 04, 2022, 05:10:26 PM »
Did Shaka offer Wrightsil before or after it was known he'd need knee surgery?
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« Reply #38 on: December 04, 2022, 07:22:48 PM »
Zach hid it from Shaka...
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« Reply #39 on: December 04, 2022, 07:36:15 PM »
Zach hid it from Shaka...

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« Reply #40 on: December 04, 2022, 07:45:38 PM »
If true, his scholarship should be cancelled.
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« Reply #41 on: December 04, 2022, 08:11:01 PM »
Cancel it....

NCAA bylaws would allow it to be cancelled immediately in that case. That said, do we have proof this happened?
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« Reply #42 on: December 04, 2022, 08:17:10 PM »
NCAA bylaws would allow it to be cancelled immediately in that case. That said, do we have proof this happened?
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« Reply #43 on: December 04, 2022, 08:27:49 PM »
Newsie is usually hitting the mamajuana when he posts. And when he's not posting  ;D
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« Reply #45 on: December 05, 2022, 07:46:04 AM »
If he "hid" it, shame on our recruiting team for not doing proper due diligence.

My estimate is the injury was disclosed but it may have been more severe than anyone expected, including Messrs. Wrightsil and Smart.

It's probably a risk we took that bit us where the sun don't shine. We're dealing with 21-year-old bodies and recovery can sometimes be unpredictable.

My hope is that by mid-season, Mr. Wrightsil is a part of our rotation and making a meaningful contribution. That may be asking quite a bit, but one can hope.

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« Reply #46 on: December 05, 2022, 07:52:07 AM »
He could. While he played four years at Loyola New Orleans he got 20-21 back. However, since he played against LIU he has to be medically disqualified for the remainder of the season by a doctor.
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« Reply #47 on: December 05, 2022, 07:53:52 AM »
Should be easy to find a doctor to say that

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« Reply #48 on: December 05, 2022, 08:07:45 AM »


"If played, Mr. Wrightsil, I can state unequivocally, will be the healthiest individual ever to have played basketball for Marquette University."
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« Reply #49 on: December 05, 2022, 08:23:25 AM »
"If played, Mr. Wrightsil, I can state unequivocally, will be the healthiest individual ever to have played basketball for Marquette University."
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« Reply #50 on: December 06, 2022, 09:40:22 AM »
As I recall, the training staff noticed something in Wrightsil's gait in practice that led them to getting his knee checked out. I don't believe Wrightsil nor the staff was aware before then.
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« Reply #51 on: December 11, 2022, 09:46:02 PM »
Is he done for the season?

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« Reply #52 on: December 11, 2022, 10:22:22 PM »
i honestly forgot he was even on the team at this point.

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« Reply #53 on: December 11, 2022, 10:54:56 PM »
Is he done for the season?

I doubt it. It takes time to work a player back into a rotation. My guess is they are waiting until after Christmas
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