Big East Poll , NET Rankings and Team Sheets

[Herman Cain]

Big East NET rankings as of games of March 13, 2023
New  Old
8   8   UConn   
12   12   Marquette   
17   16   Creighton   
22   19   Xavier   
55   56   Providence   
76   75   Villanova   
78   80   Seton Hall   
98   99   St. John's
131   133   Butler   
164   163   DePaul   
243   243   Georgetown
March 14 Team Sheets. MU is 12
https://www.warrennolan.com/basketball/2023/net-teamsheets-plus

[tower912]

Woo-hoo.  Winning the BET raised MU's NET a whole spot.

[mugrad_89]

Woo-hoo.  Winning the BET raised MU's NET a whole spot.

And still a spot behind St Mary's - what a joke.

[MU82]

If only we could have somehow proven that we're better than UConn -- maybe a neutral-site game (that actually was on UConn's de facto home court) between the teams could have decided it.

Nah ... use the NET!

[Dr. Blackheart]

Woo-hoo.  Winning the BET raised MU's NET a whole spot.

This article by Brian Hamilton in "The Atlantic" gets into why MU is not explained statistically.

https://theathletic.com/4299093/2023/03/12/marquette-final-four-college-basketball/?source=user_shared_article

[wisblue]

Woo-hoo.  Winning the BET raised MU's NET a whole spot.

Kind of highlighting how even 3 games out of 34 can only change things so much in the higher ranks. There is no recency bias like in the voted polls.

MU is almost certainly going to be higher on the NCAA Seed list than a few teams ahead of them on the NET list, including UConn, St. Mary's, Gonzaga, and Tennessee.

For all of the carping about what the Selection Committee does, I think it helps to have a human element instead of relying blindly on a formula.

[1SE]

Looking at who is in front of us - winning  out w a run to the BET Final should give us a realistic shot at a 2 seed.

63% of 2 seeds make S16 vs 52% of 3s.

Let's get it done.

Let's get it done.

[Herman Cain]

Big East NET rankings as of games of March 12, 2023
New  Old
8   8   UConn   
12   12   Marquette   
17   17   Creighton   
22   22   Xavier   
56   55   Providence   
75   76   Villanova   
77   78   Seton Hall   
98   98   St. John's
131   131   Butler   
163   164   DePaul   
243   243   Georgetown   
March 13 Team Sheets. MU is 12
https://www.warrennolan.com/basketball/2023/net-teamsheets-plus

[Herman Cain]

Big East Poll Rankings March 13,2023
AP
6.MU
10. U Conn
13. X
Other Receiving Votes
Creighton

Coaches
4 . MU
12.U Conn
14. X
23 . Creighton
Others Receiving Votes
Cooley & Company

[LloydsLegs]

So, now that MU has a KenPom top 50 defense I guess championship is possible?

[wadesworld]

So, now that MU has a KenPom top 50 defense I guess championship is possible?

In the 20 seasons KenPom as been around, the national champion has been top 40 offensively and top 25 defensively.

[Goose]

wades

Is there any way to find out MU's defensive rank has been over the last 12 games? I would have to think it is quite high and shows they are playing the best defense of the year at the right time.

[tower912]

So, now that MU has a KenPom top 50 defense I guess championship is possible?

Somebody posted that the combined offensive and defensive rankings had to add up to less than 50 and that MU's was 55.
To be fair, same metric said Purdue couldn't win, either.

[CountryRoads]

In the 20 seasons KenPom as been around, the national champion has been top 40 offensively and top 25 defensively.

Wasn't it noted that these numbers are after the season ended? If so, I think 5 more MU wins would probably put us close to the top 25 defensively which would fit the parameters.

[LloydsLegs]

It is after the season ends and MU is trending that way. 46 on D.

[Herman Cain]

It is after the season ends and MU is trending that way. 46 on D.

https://kenpom.com/index.php

[wadesworld]

wades

Is there any way to find out MU's defensive rank has been over the last 12 games? I would have to think it is quite high and shows they are playing the best defense of the year at the right time.

I can't do it on KenPom but can on Torvik. Since the day after our last loss (at UCONN) MU is 12 on offense, 26 on defense, 8 overall.

[Goose]

wades

Thank you. Any family down in Columbus?

[wadesworld]

wades

Thank you. Any family down in Columbus?

Yes! Here with my parents and one brother. Hoping the road continues into next weekend and beyond.

[Goose]

wades

Keep the run rolling. Five more wins!!

[wadesworld]

wades

Keep the run rolling. Five more wins!!

No finish line goose.

[Herman Cain]

Final Big East NET rankings as of games of April 3, 2023
New Old
3   8   UConn   
12   12   Marquette   
14   17   Creighton   
18   22   Xavier   
51   56   Providence   
71   75   Villanova   
74   77   Seton Hall   
91   98   St. John's
125   131   Butler   
155   163   DePaul   
240   243   Georgetown   

[Herman Cain]

Big East Final Poll Rankings April 4, 2023
Coaches Poll
1. U Conn
12. Creighton
14. MU
15. X
Others Receiving Votes
The School formerly known as Cooley & Company.
AP
No post season Poll. AP Final Poll was done at end of regular season.

[Herman Cain]

Big East Poll Rankings as of Monday October 16, 2023. Will post NET daily when they become available in December.

AP
5. MU
6. U Conn
8. Creighton
22. Nova
Others Receiving Votes
Johnnies, X

Coaches
5. U Conn
7. MU
8. Creighton
20.Nova
Others Receiving Votes
X, Johnnies

[Herman Cain]

Big East Poll Rankings as of Monday October 16, 2023. Will post NET daily when they become available in December.

AP
5. MU
6. U Conn
8. Creighton
22. Nova
Others Receiving Votes
Johnnies, X

Coaches
5. U Conn
7. MU
8. Creighton
20.Nova
Others Receiving Votes
X, Johnnies

First In Season Polls come out next Monday