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Author Topic: Twitter 3.0  (Read 30621 times)

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Re: Twitter 3.0
« Reply #600 on: December 16, 2022, 07:27:37 AM »
Elon keeps telling us who he is.    Believe him.
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Re: Twitter 3.0
« Reply #601 on: December 16, 2022, 07:56:40 AM »
Ramsey head thoroughly up his ass.

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Re: Twitter 3.0
« Reply #602 on: December 16, 2022, 09:06:46 AM »
From the Washington Post:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2022/12/14/qanon-musk-revival-twitter/?utm_campaign=wp_post_most&utm_medium=email&utm_source=newsletter&wpisrc=nl_most&carta-url=https%3A%2F%2Fs2.washingtonpost.com%2Fcar-ln-tr%2F389295f%2F639b5459ef9bf67b2320c814%2F5f8d147cae7e8a56e5b732a4%2F31%2F70%2F639b5459ef9bf67b2320c814&wp_cu=b1005792a416de1fbe1f17e5cf366b7d%7CB1FF71CA724A36FAE0530100007F88D6

Twitter owner Elon Musk’s boosting of far-right memes and grievances has injected new energy into the jumbled set of conspiracy theories known as QAnon, a fringe movement that Twitter and other social networks once banned as too extreme.

The billionaire has spread bogus theories about the violent attack on House Speaker Nancy Pelosi’s husband to his 120 million followers, and he called for the criminal prosecution of infectious-disease expert Anthony S. Fauci. He has thrown around baseless accusations about adults sexualizing children, helping stir up an angry online mob against Yoel Roth, a former Twitter safety executive Musk praised in October for his “high integrity.”

And on Tuesday, he tweeted a message with an emoji that many people interpreted as saying “follow the white rabbit,” possibly harking back to “Alice in Wonderland” or “The Matrix.” But many QAnon believers saw the rabbit as a wink to one of their foundational icons, a secret indicator shared in one of QAnon’s earliest online prophesies, known as “drops.”

Musk mocked the suggestion that the tweet could be interpreted negatively but offered no clarification. Among QAnon promoters, though, the message was clear: Musk was speaking to them.

One QAnon-amplifying account on Telegram with 118,000 followers, known for spreading a bogus claim that Russian fighters were targeting “U.S. biolabs” in Ukraine, said the tweet was only his latest flirtation with QAnon ideology.

“Elon called out Fauci for creating [covid-19], [is] calling out the woke hive mind, is paving the path for 2020 to be nullified and Trump reinstated … and now he’s directly quoting Q,” the account said. “Elon is an Anon,” the account added, using the term QAnon disciples call themselves.

Logan Strain, a conspiracy theory researcher who uses the name Travis View on the podcast “QAnon Anonymous,” said Musk’s “conspiracist dog whistles” have galvanized a group that was fractured after 2020, when major social networks including Twitter started banning QAnon accounts and Trump lost the White House.

“He’s responding to and validating a rogues’ gallery of right-wing conspiracists … [and] going through a checklist of far-right grievances in a way that has certainly energized them,” Strain said. For QAnon believers, “what they view as a major battlefield in the information war just opened up again.”


The Tin Foil Hat Brigade from the Washington Post has weighed in. Getting coded messages from white rabbits and all.

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Re: Twitter 3.0
« Reply #603 on: December 16, 2022, 09:26:17 AM »
The Tin Foil Hat Brigade from the Washington Post has weighed in. Getting coded messages from white rabbits and all.

Please point out the errors in that article. Thanks.
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Re: Twitter 3.0
« Reply #604 on: December 16, 2022, 09:53:49 AM »
Please point out the errors in that article. Thanks.

People have been getting kicked off of Twitter for years, without recourse, and in many cases only because of their political points of view. And the Left either denied it was happening or applauded it as absolutely necessary for the public good.

But now there's a new Sheriff in town, hell bent on restoring some çredibility and balance to the medium, and the wailing from the Left is deafening.

Get used to it.

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Re: Twitter 3.0
« Reply #605 on: December 16, 2022, 09:56:55 AM »
People have been getting kicked off of Twitter for years, without recourse, and in many cases only because of their political points of view.

Specific examples, please, including the "political" posts that got them banned.
« Last Edit: December 16, 2022, 10:01:18 AM by Pakuni »

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Re: Twitter 3.0
« Reply #606 on: December 16, 2022, 09:57:44 AM »
People have been getting kicked off of Twitter for years, without recourse, and in many cases only because of their political points of view. And the Left either denied it was happening or applauded it as absolutely necessary for the public good.

But now there's a new Sheriff in town, hell bent on restoring some çredibility and balance to the medium, and the wailing from the Left is deafening.

Get used to it.

As soon as the new Sheriff stops canceling people who disagree with him, I'll take his sheriffing -- and his credibility and balance -- seriously.

But enjoy your new cult leader; you needed one to replace the deranged Mr. NFT Trading Cards.
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Re: Twitter 3.0
« Reply #607 on: December 16, 2022, 10:12:26 AM »
People have been getting kicked off of Twitter for years, without recourse, and in many cases only because of their political points of view. And the Left either denied it was happening or applauded it as absolutely necessary for the public good.

But now there's a new Sheriff in town, hell bent on restoring some çredibility and balance to the medium, and the wailing from the Left is deafening.

Get used to it.

Sure.

Dude owns the platform, he's free to curate it however he likes. We're free to point out how hysterically hypocritical all the "free speech absolutist" nonsense was. It's incredible how much good will and money he's torched in the desperate attempt to be seen as funny and cool online.

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Re: Twitter 3.0
« Reply #608 on: December 16, 2022, 10:15:41 AM »
People have been getting kicked off of Twitter for years, without recourse, and in many cases only because of their political points of view. And the Left either denied it was happening or applauded it as absolutely necessary for the public good.

But now there's a new Sheriff in town, hell bent on restoring some çredibility and balance to the medium, and the wailing from the Left is deafening.

Get used to it.
If by "political points of view" you mean breaking Twitter's ToS by posting disinformation, threats, and hate speech, sure.

But as I said, hypocrisy is a feature, not a bug to those cheering him.
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Re: Twitter 3.0
« Reply #609 on: December 16, 2022, 10:16:32 AM »
He makes decisions based on polling those who follow -- most of whom worship -- him.

That's real good CEOing right there.
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Re: Twitter 3.0
« Reply #610 on: December 16, 2022, 10:16:55 AM »
As soon as the new Sheriff stops canceling people who disagree with him, I'll take his sheriffing -- and his credibility and balance -- seriously.

But enjoy your new cult leader; you needed one to replace the deranged Mr. NFT Trading Cards.

Canceling people???? That's f-ing rich. Conservatives have been "cancelled" en masse for years and the Left has stood by and cheered. You guys don't seem to handle turnabout real well. I believe old timers used to call it " the shoe being on the other foot."

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Re: Twitter 3.0
« Reply #611 on: December 16, 2022, 10:17:08 AM »
If by "political points of view" you mean breaking Twitter's ToS by posting disinformation, threats, and hate speech, sure.

But as I said, hypocrisy is a feature, not a bug to those cheering him.

Well, to some, those are political points of view. Wonder why those violations disproportionately fell on some rather than others?

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Re: Twitter 3.0
« Reply #612 on: December 16, 2022, 10:17:35 AM »
People have been getting kicked off of Twitter for years, without recourse, and in many cases only because of their political points of view. And the Left either denied it was happening or applauded it as absolutely necessary for the public good.

But now there's a new Sheriff in town, hell bent on restoring some çredibility and balance to the medium, and the wailing from the Left is deafening.

Get used to it.

1. The bolded is false

2. I have always asserted that Twitter as a private company can do what it wants. Twitter has no responsibility to "restore balance." Elon owns it. He can kick off whomever he wants for whatever reason he wants.

3. You are sounding pretty hypocritical right now.

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Re: Twitter 3.0
« Reply #613 on: December 16, 2022, 10:21:43 AM »
3. You are sounding pretty hypocritical right now.
Feature, not a bug.
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Re: Twitter 3.0
« Reply #614 on: December 16, 2022, 10:31:08 AM »
Cancel culture is the biggest myth out there.     There is no cancel culture.     There is a group of people deciding you are the A-hole and that they are done listening to you.    That is it.    Cancel culture is no more than a subset of humanity deciding someone is an A-hole.  Some people who have spent their entire adult lives without pushback for their hot takes are suddenly deeply wounded to find that they are thought of as the A-hole.


This isn't some new phenomenon.    Like anti-vaxxing Karens, it seems like more than it used to be because the internet tends to magnifies opinion.       But there have always been Birchers anti-vaxxers and conspiracy theorists.     Just as there as always been people who decide they are done listening to the A-hole du jour.         
« Last Edit: December 16, 2022, 10:39:16 AM by tower912 »
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

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Re: Twitter 3.0
« Reply #615 on: December 16, 2022, 10:40:56 AM »
It is Elon's sandbox now.   And he can decide exactly how he wants to burn through his money.  Right now, he is Matt Patricia pumping out New Coke.
« Last Edit: December 16, 2022, 10:58:48 AM by tower912 »
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

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Re: Twitter 3.0
« Reply #616 on: December 16, 2022, 11:01:33 AM »
Cancel culture is the biggest myth out there.     There is no cancel culture.     There is a group of people deciding you are the A-hole and that they are done listening to you.    That is it.    Cancel culture is no more than a subset of humanity deciding someone is an A-hole.  Some people who have spent their entire adult lives without pushback for their hot takes are suddenly deeply wounded to find that they are thought of as the A-hole.


This isn't some new phenomenon.    Like anti-vaxxing Karens, it seems like more than it used to be because the internet tends to magnifies opinion.       But there have always been Birchers anti-vaxxers and conspiracy theorists.     Just as there as always been people who decide they are done listening to the A-hole du jour.         

Nailed it, tower.
It's worth noting that some of the biggest purveyors of the cancel culture myth are among the least canceled people on the planet. One of them gets almost $100 million a year to do a podcast. Another has had a weekly megaphone courtesy of HBO for more than two decades.

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Re: Twitter 3.0
« Reply #617 on: December 16, 2022, 11:08:41 AM »
Canceling people???? That's f-ing rich. Conservatives Liars, racists and conspiracy theorists have been "cancelled"

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Re: Twitter 3.0
« Reply #618 on: December 16, 2022, 11:14:52 AM »
Cancel culture is the biggest myth out there.     There is no cancel culture.     There is a group of people deciding you are the A-hole and that they are done listening to you.    That is it.    Cancel culture is no more than a subset of humanity deciding someone is an A-hole.  Some people who have spent their entire adult lives without pushback for their hot takes are suddenly deeply wounded to find that they are thought of as the A-hole.


This isn't some new phenomenon.    Like anti-vaxxing Karens, it seems like more than it used to be because the internet tends to magnifies opinion.       But there have always been Birchers anti-vaxxers and conspiracy theorists.     Just as there as always been people who decide they are done listening to the A-hole du jour.         

I've always thought of "cancel culture" as capitalism in it's purest form. Someone puts out a product (their opinion). Consumers decide they don't like that product and communicate that that to the seller by voicing their opinions and taking their dollars elsewhere. The seller has the choice to keep pushing their product or to change it based on consumer feedback.

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Re: Twitter 3.0
« Reply #619 on: December 16, 2022, 11:17:50 AM »
One more thing about the imaginary Cancel Culture.     Part of free speech is everybody has that right.    Part of that right is for people to disagree with you loudly and passionately.    And calling you the A-hole for your hot takes.      Too many people think that free speech means that you can say what you want and be consequence free.     That has never been the case.   The "I've been cancelled" mewling means a hot take has met resistance and is not winning in the marketplace of ideas.   
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Re: Twitter 3.0
« Reply #620 on: December 16, 2022, 11:26:42 AM »
“Cancel culture” 😂😂😂
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Re: Twitter 3.0
« Reply #621 on: December 16, 2022, 12:11:15 PM »
I've always thought of "cancel culture" as capitalism in it's purest form. Someone puts out a product (their opinion). Consumers decide they don't like that product and communicate that that to the seller by voicing their opinions and taking their dollars elsewhere. The seller has the choice to keep pushing their product or to change it based on consumer feedback.

Also, Freedom Fries

I think someone uses the term “cancel culture” when they feel that another person or entity has been unfairly ganged up on and ostracized based primarily on rumors, lies, or missing pieces to the story. “Unfairly” can also include things like bringing up someone’s inappropriate social media posts randomly from many years ago for no other reason than to get vengeance. Many times it’s taken way out of context. For example, that happened to Josh Hader recently.

Also, even if the person in question should be rightly ostracized, the “mob” usually doesn’t stop there and friends, family, and coworkers are often harassed and threatened in the process.

I think that’s at least what the term should mean. It shouldn’t mean that people should be free to say whatever they want with no accountability, which is what most here seem to be focused on.
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Re: Twitter 3.0
« Reply #622 on: December 16, 2022, 12:18:54 PM »
I think someone uses the term “cancel culture” when they feel that another person or entity has been unfairly ganged up on and ostracized based primarily on rumors, lies, or missing pieces to the story. “Unfairly” can also include things like bringing up someone’s inappropriate social media posts randomly from many years ago for no other reason than to get vengeance. Many times it’s taken way out of context. For example, that happened to Josh Hader recently.

Also, even if the person in question should be rightly ostracized, the “mob” usually doesn’t stop there and friends, family, and coworkers are often harassed and threatened in the process.

I think that’s at least what the term should mean. It shouldn’t mean that people should be free to say whatever they want with no accountability, which is what most here seem to be focused on.

It's just a pejorative for boycotts, and the term stuck because it got a rise out of dummies and furthered the culture war. There was never a "boycott culture" pejorative, even when we thought the boycott was over a silly reason.

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Re: Twitter 3.0
« Reply #623 on: December 16, 2022, 12:21:19 PM »
It's just a pejorative for boycotts, and the term stuck because it got a rise out of dummies and furthered the culture war. There was never a "boycott culture" pejorative, even when we thought the boycott was over a silly reason.

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« Reply #624 on: December 16, 2022, 12:33:24 PM »
Canceling people???? That's f-ing rich. Conservatives have been "cancelled" en masse for years and the Left has stood by and cheered. You guys don't seem to handle turnabout real well. I believe old timers used to call it " the shoe being on the other foot."

  come on richard, you know they are NOW all so very concerned about "disinformation" flooding the networks.  all the russian shenanigans, the big guy,  the big guy and the smartest guy he knows, wuhan, etc and all that malarkey
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