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2022-23 KenPom Rankings
« on: October 16, 2022, 08:31:14 AM »
Out this morning

Marquette starts out at 76, 78 and 71 on offense and defense respectively.  Projected 9-11 in conference.  11-9 probably gets them dancing barring non-con shenanigans.

Big East as 5th best league with Nova the highest team at 20, Creighton at 22, UConn 27, all projected 13-7 in league.  Butler last behind Georgetown.

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Re: 2022-23 KenPom Rankings
« Reply #1 on: October 16, 2022, 08:35:22 AM »
Texas at 2

Oklahoma at 28

UW-Madison at 55
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« Reply #2 on: October 16, 2022, 08:48:09 AM »
Out this morning

Marquette starts out at 76, 78 and 71 on offense and defense respectively.  Projected 9-11 in conference.  11-9 probably gets them dancing barring non-con shenanigans.

Big East as 5th best league with Nova the highest team at 20, Creighton at 22, UConn 27, all projected 13-7 in league.  Butler last behind Georgetown.

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Re: 2022-23 KenPom Rankings
« Reply #3 on: October 16, 2022, 08:49:47 AM »
12th rated Catholic school.  ND, LUC and Saint Louis ahead. 

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Re: 2022-23 KenPom Rankings
« Reply #4 on: October 16, 2022, 08:51:34 AM »
Not sure if this was posted .. MU picked for 9th in the BE, bound for the NIT.

https://www.si.com/college/2022/10/14/big-east-preseason-rankings-creighton-villanova-uconn

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Re: 2022-23 KenPom Rankings
« Reply #5 on: October 16, 2022, 08:53:41 AM »
Computers love teams that go big in the portal. Marquette is tough for the computers to predict as they’re leaning on a few guys who haven’t performed in large roles before. Not really surprising where we’re ranked given the question marks.

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Re: 2022-23 KenPom Rankings
« Reply #6 on: October 16, 2022, 09:00:44 AM »
Computers love teams that go big in the portal. Marquette is tough for the computers to predict as they’re leaning on a few guys who haven’t performed in large roles before. Not really surprising where we’re ranked given the question marks.

Yup.  Not a lot of data points for the current roster.  I believe they improved 30 spots last year from where they started.  I think that would be a very good result here as well. 

Just an early glance reinforces the idea this league is pretty muddled entering the season.  There is definitely an opportunity to exceed expectations.  Yes, also fall short, too
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Re: 2022-23 KenPom Rankings
« Reply #7 on: October 16, 2022, 09:05:56 AM »
Source of discussion.  Means nothing at this point.  Win enough and it takes care of itself.   Lose too much and it takes care of itself.
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« Reply #8 on: October 16, 2022, 10:08:16 AM »
Computers love teams that go big in the portal. Marquette is tough for the computers to predict as they’re leaning on a few guys who haven’t performed in large roles before. Not really surprising where we’re ranked given the question marks.
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« Reply #9 on: October 16, 2022, 10:21:26 AM »
12th rated Catholic school.  ND, LUC and Saint Louis ahead.

Guess we lost yesterday.
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Re: 2022-23 KenPom Rankings
« Reply #10 on: October 16, 2022, 10:25:18 AM »
My concerns a few months ago haven't changed much.  It's the rebounding and interior that's a big question mark.  I think we have a lot of capable perimeter players but do we have enough to hold our own inside? 

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Re: 2022-23 KenPom Rankings
« Reply #11 on: October 16, 2022, 10:43:07 AM »
My concerns a few months ago haven't changed much.  It's the rebounding and interior that's a big question mark.  I think we have a lot of capable perimeter players but do we have enough to hold our own inside?

Shaka’s teams have never been great at rebounding.  Probably time for people to expect that
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Re: 2022-23 KenPom Rankings
« Reply #12 on: October 16, 2022, 11:43:27 AM »
Shaka’s teams have never been great at rebounding.  Probably time for people to expect that

Last year was still an outlier. I think expecting his teams to be in the 150-250 range is more of a fair year over year expectation.

As far as the kenpom ranking, nothing in the 60-80 range would've been surprising. We're relying on secondary options and unsung newcomers. We were never going to be a computer darling to start the year.
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Re: 2022-23 KenPom Rankings
« Reply #13 on: October 16, 2022, 12:48:17 PM »
Mopidity, mope, mope…

A) does it matter in a scrimmage (unless you buy into the seeding theory of losing a scrimmage)

b) thought you had info on the scrimmage



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« Reply #14 on: October 16, 2022, 12:56:24 PM »
Mopidity, mope, mope…

A) does it matter in a scrimmage (unless you buy into the seeding theory of losing a scrimmage)

b) thought you had info on the scrimmage
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« Reply #15 on: October 16, 2022, 12:56:57 PM »
We lost 3 seeds

And 17 spots in KenPom.
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« Reply #16 on: October 17, 2022, 05:08:02 PM »
SI has UNC as their preseason #1.  Most of the team that was an 8 seed last year.
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« Reply #17 on: October 17, 2022, 05:13:12 PM »
SI has UNC as their preseason #1.  Most of the team that was an 8 seed last year.

How can they be better?  Players don’t improve.  Quite the scoopnundrum
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« Reply #18 on: October 17, 2022, 05:18:06 PM »
How can they be better?  Players don’t improve.  Quite the scoopnundrum

Providence fans, led by Kevin McNamara, are more than a little irate that kenpom...I don't know...exists? Completely showing that they don't understand concepts like math on Twitter. Guess that's the difference between a college and a university.
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« Reply #19 on: October 17, 2022, 05:21:27 PM »
Returning 4 starters from last year's team. 
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Re: 2022-23 KenPom Rankings
« Reply #20 on: October 17, 2022, 05:27:28 PM »
AP preseason poll out today:

UNC is 1, Gonzaga 2.

Others of note:

7. Fightin' Scheyers

9. Creighton

12. Shaka's previous team

16. Wright's leftovers

UConn second in others receiving votes.

Nary a vote for Marquette or Madison.
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« Reply #21 on: October 17, 2022, 09:09:15 PM »
Not sure what to expect from this team. There are a few really good pieces that should get us in the tournament. However, there has been very little said about what we have.

I’m hoping we are the surprise of the year by February!

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« Reply #22 on: October 17, 2022, 09:33:08 PM »
The Scoop-reviled Flyers are top 25? Oy vey!

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« Reply #23 on: October 18, 2022, 09:56:00 AM »
The Scoop-reviled Flyers are top 25? Oy vey!

Returned everybody from a team that just missed the tourney last season, I believe.
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