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Athletic and Human Performance Research Center Phase II
« on: June 10, 2022, 08:57:31 AM »
From the season ticket holder brochure:

AHPRC PHASE II
The Athletic and Human Performance Research Center (AHPRC) Phase II is a capital project to support Marquette Athletics within the campus master plan. The new facility will seek to serve as a new home for Marquette Men’s Basketball, retrofit the Women’s Basketball and Women’s Volleyball program space, and provide locker room parity for each of our OlympicSports currently housed in the Old Gym.
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Re: Athletic and Human Performance Research Center Phase II
« Reply #1 on: June 10, 2022, 10:59:59 AM »
So the men and women are moving out of the AL?

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Re: Athletic and Human Performance Research Center Phase II
« Reply #2 on: June 10, 2022, 12:03:45 PM »
It's my understanding that the men's basketball program would move to the new facility and that the women's basketball and volleyball programs would remain in a retrofitted Al McGuire Center.

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Re: Athletic and Human Performance Research Center Phase II
« Reply #3 on: June 10, 2022, 12:15:24 PM »
I think using the Bucks practice facility, which was completed in 2017, as a reference would be a great start.

I would love to see the practice area include 2 full sized courts side by side.

Also, it would be great to have a Marquette Men's Basketball Hall of Fame and Museum at the new facility as well.

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« Reply #4 on: June 10, 2022, 12:21:20 PM »
Where will the new facility be located?

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Re: Athletic and Human Performance Research Center Phase II
« Reply #5 on: June 10, 2022, 12:32:41 PM »
Also, it would be great to have a Marquette Men's Basketball Hall of Fame and Museum at the new facility as well.

There is mostly one now at The Al but I get your point as it's more of a Hallway of Fame.

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Re: Athletic and Human Performance Research Center Phase II
« Reply #6 on: June 10, 2022, 12:39:47 PM »
Where will the new facility be located?

Guessing they add on to the back of the building where Schroeder field used to be.

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Re: Athletic and Human Performance Research Center Phase II
« Reply #7 on: June 10, 2022, 12:49:24 PM »
The side by side courts thing has been a #mubb goal for sometime now.  I would assume thsi will be added on to the west end of the existing AHPR center.
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Re: Athletic and Human Performance Research Center Phase II
« Reply #8 on: June 10, 2022, 01:03:50 PM »
Where will the hyperbaric chamber and tanning beds reside now?  In the new Tom Crean Basketball Center?

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Re: Athletic and Human Performance Research Center Phase II
« Reply #9 on: June 10, 2022, 02:02:50 PM »
Where will the hyperbaric chamber and tanning beds reside now?  In the new Tom Crean Basketball Center?

As soon as his $100K check clears.
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Re: Athletic and Human Performance Research Center Phase II
« Reply #10 on: June 10, 2022, 02:04:15 PM »
Where will the hyperbaric chamber and tanning beds reside now?  In the new Tom Crean Basketball Center?

Figured that was destined for the new soccer stadium.

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« Reply #11 on: June 10, 2022, 04:18:18 PM »
Crean sucks
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« Reply #12 on: June 10, 2022, 06:02:08 PM »
Where will the hyperbaric chamber and tanning beds reside now?  In the new Tom Crean Basketball Center?

Next to the judo dummies, of course.

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« Reply #13 on: June 10, 2022, 06:20:16 PM »
Hopefully there is ATV parking.

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« Reply #14 on: June 10, 2022, 07:18:14 PM »
Each player will get a personal butler to serve them their meals and flush the toilets for them, all funded from Buzz’s buyout.
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« Reply #15 on: June 10, 2022, 07:25:00 PM »
Each player will get a personal butler to serve them their meals and flush the toilets for them, all funded from Buzz’s buyout NIL contracts.

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« Reply #16 on: June 10, 2022, 08:55:16 PM »
Each player will get a personal butler to serve them their meals and flush the toilets for them, all funded from Buzz’s buyout.
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Re: Athletic and Human Performance Research Center Phase II
« Reply #17 on: June 10, 2022, 09:02:07 PM »
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Nope it's coming from MUs coffers/donations. Players get to pocket all that NIL money (after taxes)
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« Reply #18 on: June 10, 2022, 09:05:40 PM »
Nope it's coming from MUs coffers/donations. Players get to pocket all that NIL money (after taxes)

Yeah! But if they paid a butler they could deduct that as an expense.

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« Reply #19 on: June 10, 2022, 09:05:41 PM »
Nope it's coming from MUs coffers/donations. Players get to pocket all that NIL money (after taxes)

I don’t understand how someone can repeatedly show such a misunderstanding of NIL like 69 does.
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Re: Athletic and Human Performance Research Center Phase II
« Reply #20 on: June 10, 2022, 11:09:07 PM »
I don’t understand how someone can repeatedly show such a misunderstanding of NIL like 69 does.

It's a Scoop hallmark of a few members that they keep misunderstanding the same stuff no matter how often it's explained.
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« Reply #21 on: June 11, 2022, 08:32:03 AM »
It's a Scoop hallmark of a few members that they keep misunderstanding the same stuff no matter how often it's explained.

Oh, the kid that got a 6 figure NIL could pay for 3 butlers (OK a little hyperbole), but I have a misunderstanding of how this works. Are you telling me it is against the rules to throw in a few butlers instead of cash in their NIL? I thought there were no rules, especially in Wisconsin. I get it, the money for the facility is coming from MU/donors, but a private personal attendant could be in an NIL contract.

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« Reply #22 on: June 11, 2022, 08:52:54 AM »
Oh, the kid that got a 6 figure NIL could pay for 3 butlers (OK a little hyperbole), but I have a misunderstanding of how this works. Are you telling me it is against the rules to throw in a few butlers instead of cash in their NIL? I thought there were no rules, especially in Wisconsin. I get it, the money for the facility is coming from MU/donors, but a private personal attendant could be in an NIL contract.

Why are you doubling down on this nonsense?
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« Reply #23 on: June 11, 2022, 09:46:20 AM »
Why are you doubling down on this nonsense?

Its just my opinion. As wrong headed as you think my opinion is, is it against the rules to offer perks other than money for those paying the NIL to a player?

OK, I am tripling down and my thoughts may be hyperbole, but pay to play is here.

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« Reply #24 on: June 11, 2022, 11:26:40 AM »
Its just my opinion. As wrong headed as you think my opinion is, is it against the rules to offer perks other than money for those paying the NIL to a player?

It is not. But again,  this is a university funded project.  Nothing to do with NIL.

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« Reply #25 on: June 11, 2022, 02:18:43 PM »
Are you telling me it is against the rules to throw in a few butlers instead of cash in their NIL?

I'm telling you that you are either being deliberately obtuse or choosing to be ignorantly obtuse.

And pay for play has been here since at least the 1970s. Welcome to the 20th century.
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« Reply #26 on: June 12, 2022, 04:55:51 AM »
Does anyone have info on the new facility?  Are plans drafted and to be announced within a year, or is this more preliminary? How’s fund raising going?   Courts, locker rooms, video room, study center, offices?  Dorms?

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« Reply #27 on: June 12, 2022, 12:35:09 PM »
Does anyone have info on the new facility?  Are plans drafted and to be announced within a year, or is this more preliminary? How’s fund raising going?   Courts, locker rooms, video room, study center, offices?  Dorms?

All good questions.  I’m curious as well.  I thought the AL was one of our prized recruiting tools that has been updated regularly to keep it a state of the art practice facility.   Now it’s going to be primarily womens basketball and volleyball only?  No practice or offices for the mens bball team?  Will they move the AL statue and name the current AL something else? 

Is this truly needed?  I’m all for spending money if we have it but would rather have that Rec Center upgrade first.  Future students and students who pay tuition already really care about that stuff. 

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« Reply #28 on: June 12, 2022, 12:39:01 PM »
All good questions.  I’m curious as well.  I thought the AL was one of our prized recruiting tools that has been updated regularly to keep it a state of the art practice facility.   Now it’s going to be primarily womens basketball and volleyball only?  No practice or offices for the mens bball team?  Will they move the AL statue and name the current AL something else? 

Is this truly needed?  I’m all for spending money if we have it but would rather have that Rec Center upgrade first.  Future students and students who pay tuition already really care about that stuff.

As others have stated, the two full courts side by side is a big thing for the program. Not having that at the Al is a negative in recruiting. I believe at least 6 other Big East programs have that.
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« Reply #29 on: June 12, 2022, 12:57:46 PM »
As others have stated, the two full courts side by side is a big thing for the program. Not having that at the Al is a negative in recruiting. I believe at least 6 other Big East programs have that.

Thanks Wades.  Hopefully they do it right and it is the crown jewel of the Big East. 

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« Reply #30 on: June 12, 2022, 01:01:00 PM »
All good questions.  I’m curious as well.  I thought the AL was one of our prized recruiting tools that has been updated regularly to keep it a state of the art practice facility.   Now it’s going to be primarily womens basketball and volleyball only?  No practice or offices for the mens bball team?  Will they move the AL statue and name the current AL something else? 

Is this truly needed?  I’m all for spending money if we have it but would rather have that Rec Center upgrade first.  Future students and students who pay tuition already really care about that stuff.

the Rec Center is being upgraded beginning in the fall semester.  Sadly it's staying in the same point bc some anonymous Bus Ad donor held MU over a barrel and insisted they tear up their master campus plan and put the Bus Ad building on the McCormick site.  Having a new rec center there instead and adjacent to the AMU (as planned) would have served students so much better.
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Re: Athletic and Human Performance Research Center Phase II
« Reply #31 on: June 12, 2022, 01:25:22 PM »
the Rec Center is being upgraded beginning in the fall semester.  Sadly it's staying in the same point bc some anonymous Bus Ad donor held MU over a barrel and insisted they tear up their master campus plan and put the Bus Ad building on the McCormick site.  Having a new rec center there instead and adjacent to the AMU (as planned) would have served students so much better.

Kind of a strange thing for a donor to be concerned about.
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Re: Athletic and Human Performance Research Center Phase II
« Reply #32 on: June 13, 2022, 09:08:47 AM »
Kind of a strange thing for a donor to be concerned about.

If you are going to pony up millions of $ wouldn't you want the building on 16th and Wisconsin versus 16th and Clybourn?  As for the rec center, I don't see a big deal of moving the entrance to the facility a half-a-block.  The biggest issue was they needed an updated facility to compete for students.

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« Reply #33 on: June 13, 2022, 09:16:48 AM »
If you are going to pony up millions of $ wouldn't you want the building on 16th and Wisconsin versus 16th and Clybourn?  As for the rec center, I don't see a big deal of moving the entrance to the facility a half-a-block.  The biggest issue was they needed an updated facility to compete for students.

No, I would not expect the University to alter its campus master plan for my sake.
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« Reply #34 on: June 13, 2022, 09:22:24 AM »
No, I would not expect the University to alter its campus master plan for my sake.

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« Reply #35 on: June 13, 2022, 09:54:20 AM »
If you are going to pony up millions of $ wouldn't you want the building on 16th and Wisconsin versus 16th and Clybourn?  As for the rec center, I don't see a big deal of moving the entrance to the facility a half-a-block.  The biggest issue was they needed an updated facility to compete for students.

I'm with Sultan on this one. I personally wouldn't care where the building was (within reason) because my gift would be about what was best for the students. I think placing the rec center in the more central location is better for the students because it benefits all students whereas the Business school will only benefit some.

That being said, you write that big of a check, you are allowed to make stipulations. Not one I would personally insist on but if its important to this donor, than that's that.
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Re: Athletic and Human Performance Research Center Phase II
« Reply #36 on: June 13, 2022, 09:55:35 AM »
MU made its choice - take the money and run.  Hence, a new mast plan is born.  Beggars can't be choosers all the time.

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« Reply #37 on: June 13, 2022, 10:14:26 AM »
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« Reply #38 on: June 13, 2022, 10:23:39 AM »
MU made its choice - take the money and run.  Hence, a new mast plan is born.  Beggars can't be choosers all the time.

My understanding is things fell through with that donor, but the plan was then updated to go with the location on 16th and Wisconsin.

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« Reply #39 on: June 13, 2022, 10:26:57 AM »
No, I would not expect the University to alter its campus master plan for my sake.

I was on UK's campus in Lexington last year and their rec facility is attached to the Union and has huge windows facing the street.  Drivers passing by seeing a state of the art work out facility with activity 18 hours / day vs the drab brown brick we've ended up with at the new Bus Ad building.  Also, the plan was Bus Ad would be attached to engineering for an innovation alley.  That's now gone too.
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« Reply #40 on: June 13, 2022, 10:28:07 AM »
My understanding is things fell through with that donor, but the plan was then updated to go with the location on 16th and Wisconsin.

Ironic that things feel through on the site of Victor McCormick's twin towers.
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« Reply #41 on: June 13, 2022, 10:35:28 AM »
I was on UK's campus in Lexington last year and their rec facility is attached to the Union and has huge windows facing the street.  Drivers passing by seeing a state of the art work out facility with activity 18 hours / day vs the drab brown brick we've ended up with at the new Bus Ad building.  Also, the plan was Bus Ad would be attached to engineering for an innovation alley.  That's now gone too.

Don't get me wrong. Campus master plans are changed all of the time due to changes in funding needs, building sizes, etc. Maybe Marquette didn't really care all that much because a renovated rec complex was easier and cheaper than building from new.

I just personally wouldn't really care.
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« Reply #42 on: June 13, 2022, 10:38:55 AM »
I was on UK's campus in Lexington last year and their rec facility is attached to the Union and has huge windows facing the street.  Drivers passing by seeing a state of the art work out facility with activity 18 hours / day vs the drab brown brick we've ended up with at the new Bus Ad building.  Also, the plan was Bus Ad would be attached to engineering for an innovation alley.  That's now gone too.

The innovation alley was a great idea. It is a shame it won’t be going through and a new master plan had to be developed for the pride of a donor.

I realize it is a lot of money, but it highlights this as a pride donation, not a giving back to the University donation.

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« Reply #43 on: June 13, 2022, 10:39:20 AM »
I was on UK's campus in Lexington last year and their rec facility is attached to the Union and has huge windows facing the street.  Drivers passing by seeing a state of the art work out facility with activity 18 hours / day vs the drab brown brick we've ended up with at the new Bus Ad building.  Also, the plan was Bus Ad would be attached to engineering for an innovation alley.  That's now gone too.
I saw that Rec facility at UK recently as well. It was pretty impressive.
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« Reply #44 on: June 13, 2022, 12:18:51 PM »
Yep.  Rec center facilities are a huge deal in attracting tuition paying students.  I hope they do the renovation well.  This would not be a time to skimp.
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« Reply #45 on: June 13, 2022, 12:48:16 PM »
Yep.  Rec center facilities are a huge deal in attracting tuition paying students.  I hope that do the renovation well.  This would not be a time to skimp.

one of the main attractions rec centers need to have based on student input is a rock climbing wall. I was part of a planning committee for a university's new rec center and there was significantly more student support for a climbing wall than there was for a pool...so we scrapped the pool.

Is MU going to do a teardown and rebuild or a gut renovation of the Rec Center?
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« Reply #46 on: June 13, 2022, 12:56:24 PM »
one of the main attractions rec centers need to have based on student input is a rock climbing wall. I was part of a planning committee for a university's new rec center and there was significantly more student support for a climbing wall than there was for a pool...so we scrapped the pool.

Is MU going to do a teardown and rebuild or a gut renovation of the Rec Center?


They are "reimaging" the facility.  (IOW a big renovation)

https://www.marquette.edu/wellness-and-recreation/index.html

They will still have a pool.
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« Reply #47 on: June 13, 2022, 02:56:15 PM »

They are "reimaging" the facility.  (IOW a big renovation)

https://www.marquette.edu/wellness-and-recreation/index.html

They will still have a pool.
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« Reply #48 on: June 13, 2022, 03:35:07 PM »

They are "reimaging" the facility.  (IOW a big renovation)

https://www.marquette.edu/wellness-and-recreation/index.html

They will still have a pool.
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« Reply #49 on: June 13, 2022, 03:39:45 PM »
It's a Scoop hallmark of a few members that they keep misunderstanding the same stuff no matter how often it's explained.
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« Reply #50 on: June 13, 2022, 03:41:07 PM »
Is that Anthony Candelino running on the track in the one drawing?

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I realize it is a lot of money, but it highlights this as a pride donation, not a giving back to the University donation.

I have news for you.  Most high-profile donations are pride donations.  Just look at the big  deal Marcus Lemonis forced Marquette to make over his latest  gift.  The amount wasn't really that much compared to other recent large donations that received much less publicity.



If you don't think that "The building shall be named 'Big S. Donor Hall' " isn't right in the donation agreement, you're naive.  There are no blushing donors saying, "What?  Name the building after me?  Oh, you shouldn't have!"
Have some patience, FFS.

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Re: Athletic and Human Performance Research Center Phase II
« Reply #52 on: June 13, 2022, 07:15:30 PM »
I have news for you.  Most high-profile donations are pride donations.  Just look at the big  deal Marcus Lemonis forced Marquette to make over his latest  gift.  The amount wasn't really that much compared to other recent large donations that received much less publicity.



If you don't think that "The building shall be named 'Big S. Donor Hall' " isn't right in the donation agreement, you're naive.  There are no blushing donors saying, "What?  Name the building after me?  Oh, you shouldn't have!"

I would say “many,” because I’m not sure “most” is accurate. We don’t hear about a lot of donations because donors don’t want a big deal made of them.
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Re: Athletic and Human Performance Research Center Phase II
« Reply #53 on: June 13, 2022, 08:17:45 PM »
Marcus Lemonis is the poster child for Marcus Lemonis.
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Re: Athletic and Human Performance Research Center Phase II
« Reply #54 on: June 13, 2022, 08:51:37 PM »
I have news for you.  Most high-profile donations are pride donations.  Just look at the big  deal Marcus Lemonis forced Marquette to make over his latest  gift.  The amount wasn't really that much compared to other recent large donations that received much less publicity.



If you don't think that "The building shall be named 'Big S. Donor Hall' " isn't right in the donation agreement, you're naive.  There are no blushing donors saying, "What?  Name the building after me?  Oh, you shouldn't have!"
In several threads we have discussed the value of non revenue sports and future donations.

According to this article Mr. Lemonis competed on MU Track and Field for 4 years.

https://www.marquette.edu/news-center/2022/marcus-lemonis-donates-15-million-to-create-lemonis-center-for-student-success.php
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Re: Athletic and Human Performance Research Center Phase II
« Reply #55 on: June 13, 2022, 11:05:13 PM »
I have news for you.  Most high-profile donations are pride donations.  Just look at the big  deal Marcus Lemonis forced Marquette to make over his latest  gift.  The amount wasn't really that much compared to other recent large donations that received much less publicity.



If you don't think that "The building shall be named 'Big S. Donor Hall' " isn't right in the donation agreement, you're naive.  There are no blushing donors saying, "What?  Name the building after me?  Oh, you shouldn't have!"

I'm well aware that most big donations are pride donations, but there is a big difference between, I want a big celebration, or I want this named after me, and..."I want the building here, screw your master plan, if its not here, I'm not donating."


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Re: Athletic and Human Performance Research Center Phase II
« Reply #56 on: June 14, 2022, 07:37:29 AM »
Is that Anthony Candelino running on the track in the one drawing?

LOL!  That just cracked me up. 

Joe Nethen watching?

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Re: Athletic and Human Performance Research Center Phase II
« Reply #57 on: June 14, 2022, 08:59:11 AM »
I'm well aware that most big donations are pride donations, but there is a big difference between, I want a big celebration, or I want this named after me, and..."I want the building here, screw your master plan, if its not here, I'm not donating."

Agreed.
Have some patience, FFS.

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Re: Athletic and Human Performance Research Center Phase II
« Reply #58 on: June 17, 2022, 08:24:43 AM »
Is that Anthony Candelino running on the track in the one drawing?

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